[LIVE AS WE GO] Pritam Singh goes on trial for charges of lying to Parliament

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xdivider said:
not really, he defected to lhl when he see that side is strong. lwl was not really toking about him in good terms.......

right now he is behaving as if he is ah gong for law matters......
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For that oxley issue i agree and overall he is obligated to Lhl since is his idol’s son. Same for teo.

That gen of ministers are hardcore believers opposition are not good and stuck behind in times. LW don’t clean them up ASAP will be very difficult to command any respect.
 
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Yudhishthra Nathan says Pritam Singh never told Raeesah Khan to take ownership and responsibility

Pritam Singh’s lawyer Andre Jumabhoy asks Mr Yudhishthra Nathan if Singh had told him about an Oct 3 conversation he had with Ms Raeesah Khan, in the meeting on Oct 12, 2021 between himself, Singh and Ms Loh Pei Ying.

Mr Nathan says Singh told him that “he had thought that the anecdote (about the sexual assault victim) could possibly come up the next day, on Oct 4”, and that was why Singh had visited Ms Khan on Oct 3.

The defence lawyer goes on to ask Mr Nathan if Singh mentioned that he said he would not judge Ms Khan. Mr Nathan says yes.

Mr Jumabhoy asks if Mr Nathan did not clarify what Singh meant when he said he would not judge Ms Khan. Mr Nathan says he did not feel a need to do so at that point.

Following that, Mr Jumabhoy asks if Mr Nathan recalled Singh telling Ms Khan to “take ownership and responsibility (for telling a lie in Parliament)”.

Mr Nathan says “Absolutely not, he never used those words”.

Mr Jumabhoy asks if Mr Nathan would agree that it is something Singh could have said. No, says Mr Nathan.
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Nice. Not fuzzy anymore?
 
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Baddieko said:
For that oxley issue i agree and overall he is obligated to Lhl since is his idol’s son. Same for teo.

That gen of ministers are hardcore believers opposition are not good and stuck behind in times. LW don’t clean them up ASAP will be very difficult to command any respect.
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from the fact til date he act like memory loss on making a unfounded allegation on the opp party about taking public money and not apologizing for wasting 1 decade of nothing oredi show that they think fixing the opp is part of their job like ah dou......
 
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Ex-WP chief Low Thia Khiang has taken the stand

Mr Low Thia Khiang, the Workers’ Party secretary-general and Aljunied GRC MP, has taken the stand as the fourth witness in the trial.

Mr Low, who stepped down in 2018, had discussed the matter with Pritam Singh and Ms Sylvia Lim at his house on Oct 11, 2021, where he was told of Ms Raeesah Khan’s Aug 3 lie.

Mr Low, a member of the WP’s central executive committee, had told both leaders that Ms Khan should admit to her lie in Parliament and apologise as soon as possible.
The next day, both leaders told Ms Khan directly – for the first time – to clarify the truth in Parliament.

On Oct 4, Singh and Ms Lim met Ms Khan at the end of a Parliament sitting. Ms Khan suggested: “Perhaps there is another way. That is, to tell the truth.”
The prosecution argues that Singh told her it was too late for that.

Mr Low’s involvement had not previously come up during the Committee of Privileges hearings.
 
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Defence asks Yudhishthra Nathan about meetings with Loh Pei Ying and Raeesah Khan

During Mr Yudhishthra Nathan’s cross examination earlier, Mr Andre Jumabhoy asks about two dinners Mr Nathan had with Ms Loh Pei Ying on Nov 29 and Dec 1, 2021. Mr Jumabhoy says that Mr Nathan and Ms Loh had been “aligning (their) facts right from the COP”.

Denying this, Mr Nathan says they had talked about Ms Raeesah Khan’s fear about exposing the WP leaders at the Committee of Privileges (COP). Ms Khan was also at the dinner on Dec 1, 2021.

Mr Nathan says Ms Khan was afraid of going to the COP and “telling the truth that party leaders told her to maintain the lie since August”, even though she had resigned.

He also recalls that at one of the dinners, Mr Mike Lim, Ms Khan’s legislative assistant, was on a phone call with Singh. Before the call, Ms Loh told Mr Lim to tell Singh that she had been called to the COP and would not lie to save the party.

Asked what was Singh’s response, Mr Nathan says Singh had told Mr Lim to tell Ms Loh to tell the truth, “which was a response that surprised me”. He adds that he was shocked when Singh told the COP Singh did not know Ms Loh was going to testify.

Mr Andre Jumabhoy points to a message from Ms Loh where she told Mr Lim to be careful when he talks to Singh because the conversation might be recorded.

“Please don’t tell him we met before the COP ok? This one really cannot say,” the message said.

Mr Nathan also sent a message to the same chatgroup: “Just to protect yourself.”

Asked by Mr Jumabhoy what this meant, Mr Nathan says: “I guess it's because just in case Mr Singh would try to use that info against him.”
 
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Defence asks Yudhishthra Nathan about meetings with Loh Pei Ying and Raeesah Khan

During Mr Yudhishthra Nathan’s cross examination earlier, Mr Andre Jumabhoy asks about two dinners Mr Nathan had with Ms Loh Pei Ying on Nov 29 and Dec 1, 2021. Mr Jumabhoy says that Mr Nathan and Ms Loh had been “aligning (their) facts right from the COP”.

Denying this, Mr Nathan says they had talked about Ms Raeesah Khan’s fear about exposing the WP leaders at the Committee of Privileges (COP). Ms Khan was also at the dinner on Dec 1, 2021.

Mr Nathan says Ms Khan was afraid of going to the COP and “telling the truth that party leaders told her to maintain the lie since August”, even though she had resigned.

He also recalls that at one of the dinners, Mr Mike Lim, Ms Khan’s legislative assistant, was on a phone call with Singh. Before the call, Ms Loh told Mr Lim to tell Singh that she had been called to the COP and would not lie to save the party.

Asked what was Singh’s response, Mr Nathan says Singh had told Mr Lim to tell Ms Loh to tell the truth, “which was a response that surprised me”. He adds that he was shocked when Singh told the COP Singh did not know Ms Loh was going to testify.

Mr Andre Jumabhoy points to a message from Ms Loh where she told Mr Lim to be careful when he talks to Singh because the conversation might be recorded.

“Please don’t tell him we met before the COP ok? This one really cannot say,” the message said.

Mr Nathan also sent a message to the same chatgroup: “Just to protect yourself.”

Asked by Mr Jumabhoy what this meant, Mr Nathan says: “I guess it's because just in case Mr Singh would try to use that info against him.”
 
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couch.potato said:
The saddest part is the people who need to hear all these the most are the people who will never bother to listen to it.

the details of this trial, the debate over NTUC income / Allianz… the 60% don’t even want to LISTEN at all. And so many have children. Do they not care for the future of their children? Or they believe the million dollar BTOs and CDC vouchers will continue to sustain their next Generations??
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People who have children would also know their children are better off growing up in Singapore than most of the world. Whether PS is right or wrong can be summarised by the judge’s verdict. No need go in to all this bickering.
 
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What do you guys understand the below from CNA:

He added that while there was no doubt as to the credibility of Mr Nathan, this was the case for all witnesses.
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“He” at the beginning of the sentence refers to the Judge.

CNA full story below:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...an-ang-check-hock-andre-jumabhoy-4696621?cid=

Contrast that with the ST Live Updates below:

While there is “no doubt” the credibility of Mr Nathan is an issue, as with the credibility of all witnesses, the messages already submitted as evidence can and already have been used to test the accuracy of the evidence given by the witnesses, including Mr Nathan.
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GreatPumpkin said:
Dunno why you guys bother still following.

Writing is on the wall already.

Or rather big signboard with neon letters
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Mr Andre Jumabhoy points to a message from Ms Loh where she told Mr Lim to be careful when he talks to Singh because the conversation might be recorded.

“Please don’t tell him we met before the COP ok? This one really cannot say,” the message said.

Mr Nathan also sent a message to the same chatgroup: “Just to protect yourself.”

Asked by Mr Jumabhoy what this meant, Mr Nathan says: “I guess it's because just in case Mr Singh would try to use that info against him.”

lol what a fk-ing snake
 
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