❓ How many here will not and never consider visiting China for vacation? ❓

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eggie011

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Not interested in going there at all. Been to Beijing once for business, that's all.
 

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What is making you not to visit China.

Note this is not IB thread hokays?
So leave the political hate/patriotism stuff off this discussion :)

visited before, just as visiting other countries in Asia.

For best foods, best to check with local colleagues instead of gg to the tourist spots. I do that for Japan also.
 

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visited China before Covid.

but after Covid , always been going to japan and korea.

reason : If those youtube videos of massive unemployment, bankruptcies and what nots are true, that means there's a lot of desperate people in there.

when there's a lot of poor and desperate people, I don't want to be in that country doing anything as a tourist.
ya there is alot of those youtube videos, visited 3 provinces aside from my wife province, things were normal in the street view in the capital cities, i did not find anything like the youtube videos.

But some shopping malls high ends were lacking of people thou. bullet trains in dec dont need to book at all, u can last minute book, can get tickets. beautiful renovated rooms were cheap at 100rmb a day, all is great for me.
 

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i would love to travel extensively in China, not just the eastern coastal cities.
Only have been to a couple cities so far, but for work

I don't understand why the bias against China... western mainstream media?

if I visit again, would like to check out Zhangjiajie National Park which was one of the backdrop for Avatar.
China_Zhangjiajie_Wulingyuan_CliffMountains_054_SS.jpg
 

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I will not and not interested in China

I am not into country that restrict personal freedom and blocking freedom of speech, constant brainwashing

Imagine I go to a country, cannot use FB and whatapps, cannot use cash.....zzzzz

even Vietnam is not like that as a communist country

dun understand why so many girl like XiaoHongShu and go china, all kenna brainwashed alrdy
And they don't have dongguan already. No where to play
 

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What is making you not to visit China.

Note this is not IB thread hokays?
So leave the political hate/patriotism stuff off this discussion :)
The behavior of Shitizens there plus the public toilets are enough to make me not want to visit Cheena for holidays!

You may question, but you've not been there, why make this kind of comments. I've been to all the Big 4 1st tier cities plus a few smaller 2nd and 3rd tier cities for work (北上广深). Purely for work trips, so far I only extend one of my trip to Shenzhen for a couple of days so I can take a train to Guangzhou.
 

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And they don't have dongguan already. No where to play
Ban sextrade
Ban gambling, but allow Macau to operate
Ban Kpop, 禁韩令, cannot play Kpop or invite Korea star, but they copy Kpop song and play in their variety show in Chinese
Restrict foreign movie - but copy Hollywood movie and make into their own movie
 

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I don't mind go, I went to bj for weekend explore the palace and tourist place. Some modern place are even better and nicer than orchard road. In China I don't even need to exchange cash I use alipay and wechat pay. Other and pay via wechat in resturant, food scheme is very competitive, so the service and food is in really good quality. However in bj inner circle, some old buildings do retain its original state, like in some toilet I open the door, straight away can see one guy squatting in front of me ps. Other than that all is ok. I wanted to plan a trip to yunnan or chongqing er Mei shan sometime for sight seeing
 
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I will not and not interested in China

I am not into country that restrict personal freedom and blocking freedom of speech, constant brainwashing

Imagine I go to a country, cannot use FB and whatapps, cannot use cash.....zzzzz

even Vietnam is not like that as a communist country

dun understand why so many girl like XiaoHongShu and go china, all kenna brainwashed alrdy

Lol at this guy.
He talked so confidently as if he'd been to china.
He hasn't realized that he's the one who's been brainwashed.

6 Years ago, my wife was like you. Simi communist, simi no freedom.

Took her to Beijing and her jaw almost dropped. We have visited visited china 6 times and 18 china cities since then.

We use gomo or ICC card, no issue with whatsapp, insta, facebook.
Don't use google map!

The only issue we face is dirty toilets.
 

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during CNY, i once drove from hunan to shenzhen. it normally takes 9 hrs, but the heavy traffic increased that to 2 days. the interstate rest areas sold instant noodles and had hot water for customers. malaysia doesn't have such service. i'm fine with any hygiene standards, but i felt it was comparable to malaysia, europe & america's interstate rest areas. it all depends of usage frequency. heavy use means it will stink more

China is a must visit tourist place in our life. Only issue is not enough time to cover the vast landscape...

Chinese saying goes, 不到长城非好汉. Luckily I have been to 八达岭. Many more places to explore, not enough time.


Having been to China about two times (hangzhou and Beijing), other than short trips to hong Kong, zhuhai and Macau, I think China is quite advanced and good

hangzhou - 5 star hotel cos it’s partly worktrip

Beijing - backpacker hostel cos it was part of my rtw trip. I reached Beijing from the port of tianjin (sailed from Incheon) and left Beijing by the Trans Siberian

my only comments

Air in Beijing can be bad
CNY is bad - by reputation cos I don’t go there during CNY

Don’t do or say anything stupid and you should fine. Never encountered any pickpockets or anything so I will say ok la.

But one thing is important is to know some Chinese when going there. Cos many people can’t speak English there or have the weitd
 

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See what happen during covid 19

u shld know what kind of country are them, they always hide thing from happening, 草菅人命, anything when western country question them, they will say....不得干预中国内政


No matter how advance their city state look on the outside, their internal is corrupt one

Not align with my personal value to visit this kind of country
to me, learning opportunity trumps simi personal value.

got chance to learn, absorb their good, understand the bad, dun repeat those nonsense, apply it to personal life and personal learning... why not?

there's just so many things we can learn frm other countries, regardless how "good or bad" u may think.

personal values? backbone? this will only funnel ur mind into a very narrow scope of thought.
 

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that place and people never appeal to me.. i will never step foot in china
 

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We use gomo or ICC card, no issue with whatsapp, insta, facebook.
Don't use google map!

The only issue we face is dirty toilets.
I was in hangzhou and I could use Google maps and WhatsApp intermittently. I used hotel wifi . No vpn. But it’s intermittent and mostly doesn’t work but every now and then I got some access. I dunno why. I wanted to ask the hotel staff but something told me it was a glitch and better not say anything
 

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Having been to China about two times (hangzhou and Beijing), other than short trips to hong Kong, zhuhai and Macau, I think China is quite advanced and good

hangzhou - 5 star hotel cos it’s partly worktrip

Beijing - backpacker hostel cos it was part of my rtw trip. I reached Beijing from the port of tianjin (sailed from Incheon) and left Beijing by the Trans Siberian

my only comments

Air in Beijing can be bad
CNY is bad - by reputation cos I don’t go there during CNY

Don’t do or say anything stupid and you should fine. Never encountered any pickpockets or anything so I will say ok la.

But one thing is important is to know some Chinese when going there. Cos many people can’t speak English there or have the weitd
one thing for sure.

u visit china for 1mth, even if ur Mother Tongue B can score F9, u come back instantly Higher Chinese A1.
 

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I don't mind go, I went to bj for weekend explore the palace and tourist place. Some modern place are even better and nicer than orchard road. In China I don't even need to exchange cash I use alipay and wechat pay. Other and pay via wechat in resturant, food scheme is very competitive, so the service and food is in really good quality. However in bj inner circle, some old buildings do retain its original state, like in some toilet I open the door, straight away can see one guy squatting in front of me ps. Other than that all is ok. I wanted to plan a trip to yunnan er Mei shan sometime for sight seeing
The sight sure will traumatize me. Especially in the morning, see a guy ps and saw his poo still connected to his butt hole and drop into the hole. Spoil mood for the entire trip.
 
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I was in hangzhou and I could use Google maps and WhatsApp intermittently. I used hotel wifi . No vpn. But it’s intermittent and mostly doesn’t work but every now and then I got some access. I dunno why. I wanted to ask the hotel staff but something told me it was a glitch and better not say anything
Google map info is outdated and led us on a wild goose chase. 😔

No issue with whatsapp, insta, fb, no vpn needed. ICC and GOMO ftw!
 

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Bcos I'm malay.
I go hainan often due to businesses.

And I often see indo ladies. I don't know why they are there. Heard there's a malay village in hainan or something.

All the lan zhou ramen are halal, they are very common. Now and then you can find xinjiang bbq restaurants or street stall. But still I think not easy for you to move around unless you did alot of homework and use a translator tool.
 
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I will not and not interested in China

I am not into country that restrict personal freedom and blocking freedom of speech, constant brainwashing

Imagine I go to a country, cannot use FB and whatapps, cannot use cash.....zzzzz

even Vietnam is not like that as a communist country

dun understand why so many girl like XiaoHongShu and go china, all kenna brainwashed alrdy
Can use la, use your telecom auto roaming.
 

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If you not looking for Europe architecture, China is way better than Europe. Peace of mind, fantastic transportation, equally as beautiful scenery and mood. More plus points for that "ambience".
 
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