What is making you not to visit China.
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Don’t mind visiting but tiagong the toilets are filthy.
ya there is alot of those youtube videos, visited 3 provinces aside from my wife province, things were normal in the street view in the capital cities, i did not find anything like the youtube videos.visited China before Covid.
but after Covid , always been going to japan and korea.
reason : If those youtube videos of massive unemployment, bankruptcies and what nots are true, that means there's a lot of desperate people in there.
when there's a lot of poor and desperate people, I don't want to be in that country doing anything as a tourist.
i would love to travel extensively in China, not just the eastern coastal cities.
Only have been to a couple cities so far, but for work
I don't understand why the bias against China... western mainstream media?
And they don't have dongguan already. No where to playMe
I will not and not interested in China
I am not into country that restrict personal freedom and blocking freedom of speech, constant brainwashing
Imagine I go to a country, cannot use FB and whatapps, cannot use cash.....zzzzz
even Vietnam is not like that as a communist country
dun understand why so many girl like XiaoHongShu and go china, all kenna brainwashed alrdy
The behavior of Shitizens there plus the public toilets are enough to make me not want to visit Cheena for holidays!What is making you not to visit China.
Note this is not IB thread hokays?
So leave the political hate/patriotism stuff off this discussion![]()
Ban sextradeAnd they don't have dongguan already. No where to play
Me
I will not and not interested in China
I am not into country that restrict personal freedom and blocking freedom of speech, constant brainwashing
Imagine I go to a country, cannot use FB and whatapps, cannot use cash.....zzzzz
even Vietnam is not like that as a communist country
dun understand why so many girl like XiaoHongShu and go china, all kenna brainwashed alrdy
during CNY, i once drove from hunan to shenzhen. it normally takes 9 hrs, but the heavy traffic increased that to 2 days. the interstate rest areas sold instant noodles and had hot water for customers. malaysia doesn't have such service. i'm fine with any hygiene standards, but i felt it was comparable to malaysia, europe & america's interstate rest areas. it all depends of usage frequency. heavy use means it will stink more
China is a must visit tourist place in our life. Only issue is not enough time to cover the vast landscape...
Chinese saying goes, 不到长城非好汉. Luckily I have been to 八达岭. Many more places to explore, not enough time.
to me, learning opportunity trumps simi personal value.See what happen during covid 19
u shld know what kind of country are them, they always hide thing from happening, 草菅人命, anything when western country question them, they will say....不得干预中国内政
No matter how advance their city state look on the outside, their internal is corrupt one
Not align with my personal value to visit this kind of country
I was in hangzhou and I could use Google maps and WhatsApp intermittently. I used hotel wifi . No vpn. But it’s intermittent and mostly doesn’t work but every now and then I got some access. I dunno why. I wanted to ask the hotel staff but something told me it was a glitch and better not say anythingWe use gomo or ICC card, no issue with whatsapp, insta, facebook.
Don't use google map!
The only issue we face is dirty toilets.
one thing for sure.Having been to China about two times (hangzhou and Beijing), other than short trips to hong Kong, zhuhai and Macau, I think China is quite advanced and good
hangzhou - 5 star hotel cos it’s partly worktrip
Beijing - backpacker hostel cos it was part of my rtw trip. I reached Beijing from the port of tianjin (sailed from Incheon) and left Beijing by the Trans Siberian
my only comments
Air in Beijing can be bad
CNY is bad - by reputation cos I don’t go there during CNY
Don’t do or say anything stupid and you should fine. Never encountered any pickpockets or anything so I will say ok la.
But one thing is important is to know some Chinese when going there. Cos many people can’t speak English there or have the weitd
The sight sure will traumatize me. Especially in the morning, see a guy ps and saw his poo still connected to his butt hole and drop into the hole. Spoil mood for the entire trip.I don't mind go, I went to bj for weekend explore the palace and tourist place. Some modern place are even better and nicer than orchard road. In China I don't even need to exchange cash I use alipay and wechat pay. Other and pay via wechat in resturant, food scheme is very competitive, so the service and food is in really good quality. However in bj inner circle, some old buildings do retain its original state, like in some toilet I open the door, straight away can see one guy squatting in front of me ps. Other than that all is ok. I wanted to plan a trip to yunnan er Mei shan sometime for sight seeing
Google map info is outdated and led us on a wild goose chase.I was in hangzhou and I could use Google maps and WhatsApp intermittently. I used hotel wifi . No vpn. But it’s intermittent and mostly doesn’t work but every now and then I got some access. I dunno why. I wanted to ask the hotel staff but something told me it was a glitch and better not say anything
I go hainan often due to businesses.Bcos I'm malay.
Can use la, use your telecom auto roaming.Me
I will not and not interested in China
I am not into country that restrict personal freedom and blocking freedom of speech, constant brainwashing
Imagine I go to a country, cannot use FB and whatapps, cannot use cash.....zzzzz
even Vietnam is not like that as a communist country
dun understand why so many girl like XiaoHongShu and go china, all kenna brainwashed alrdy