[CONSOLIDATED] Singapore General Election 2025 Discussion Thread

[Eureka75]

There are still hardcore opposition voters in sg

Those who will still vote for like likes of siao and infamous opposition candidates like GMS and Lim Tean

 

[Eureka75]

Think perhaps one question is, who is that mysterious 'future generation'. For the way local do it, making it difficult for people to get marry and have kids. More people are not marrying and even if marry also don't want have kids. Where is that future generation. Their own elites and those foreigners probably. Why does it have to concern the people alot then, leaving the money for others.

Sinkies dont want to have children due to high cost of living and and many foreigners competing for jobs in the private sectors

 

[NOfLine]

It's been awhile but I like this video so much.... plus the timing is so right for this song.

 

[Eureka75]

KJ he now not in SG, rite

He is still in UK if I am not wrong, shows he is not commited to Singapore and run elections and KPKB on Facebook to seek attention and not to care about Singaporeans

 

[boredom2012]

Think if can see the similarity, local is facing alot of things the same as CN. If read more into it, both are more similar in many ways than many would know. Especially in certain Asian ways.

Difference is CN is both even more rigid and liberal in many ways than local. And CN advance at a much more accelerated rate than local. And due to its large size, the impact more obvious and acute.

Thus alot of the social phenomenon that happened in there is a precursor of sort for local. Alot of the crisis they facing are very real for local.

But difference is local is delaying it by doing something there don't have or won't do. Which local can and will do. That is by having constant influx of foreigners to keep up the demand. On one hand limiting supply, on the other hand increase demand.

However local is only so big. There will come a time when the social tension (which now is already increasingly happening) will not allow for anymore before local implode on itself.

Think that number can be assumed to be about 10 mil. After that, good luck to whoever is taking over from incumbent. Think won't be surprised incumbent is going to pass the craps to next player by then.

They will not willingly to give up power one. The elite will use new citizen to pin against those local one. That is their grand plan. Pm will still be one of pap for generations unless external factors like geopolitics come into play. They will not stop at 10 million. More people come more easy to control local. Look at Israel and Palestine. Israel move their own citizens to occupy Palestine area. Chinese export more Chinese into Xinjiang and Tibet to dilute local population.

 

[Eureka75]

They will not willingly to give up power one. The elite will use new citizen to pin against those local one. That is their grand plan. Pm will still be one of pap for generations unless external factors like geopolitics come into play. They will not stop at 10 million. More people come more easy to control local. Look at Israel and Palestine. Israel move their own citizens to occupy Palestine area. Chinese export more Chinese into Xinjiang and Tibet to dilute local population.

Foreigners that come from more liberal countries like Taiwan or South Korea harder to control than Singaporeans who are generally meek

 

[alvincy]

Look at the people around you. At home (HDB, Condo), at work (your colleagues, associate, even suppliers), how many foreigners or foreign turned citizens???

This must stop. By bringing in more people to boost economy must stop!

 

[ZacharyA]

there’s always a job at NTUC lah..
but these senior civil servants likeky be MOS or senior parliamentary secretary

I'm sure there is always a job somewhere. Question is do they have that job now? Because from now till GE it's technically jobless what, and even if they won the election and got voted in, and then appointed as MOS / SPS, then they need to "resign" from their full-time role?

Btw, MOS and SPS can hold concurrently FT job or not?

 

[boredom2012]

Foreigners that come from more liberal countries like Taiwan or South Korea harder to control than Singaporeans who are generally meek

Sadly those are the least want to migrate here. Only India, china and Malaysia make up most. They are less educated and more easy to brainwashed

 

[ZacharyA]

WP and PSP are smart in keeping their cards in their pocket until parliament dissolves while continuing their groundwork instead of chopeing seats for the PAP to 暗笑 at them for being kumkong carrots for them to chop

Meanwhile the most kiasu party this year is LT that clown

 

[Eureka75]

Meanwhile the most kiasu party this year is LT that clown

WP or PSP should just contest in the same areas he is contesting since he is an empty vessel and can only get the hardcore opposition votes. Make him lose his deposit so he diam diam

 

[ZacharyA]

In my opinion, PSP is over valued. They kinda just parachute into the political scene, and just like that 2 NCMPs. Until now, mainly due to 2020 GE’s covid restrictions, they have not yet conducted a single election rally, and they already win big already. Something’s not right la. Or does this show that election rally actually no use one? PSP’s successful showing may or may not happen again in GE 2025.

They won big because West Coast GRC residents like TCB. And TCB had exposure because he was ex PAP backbencher + Presidential Candidate. He is likeable.

Whether PSP fare well or not this year, time will tell. But West Coast GRC w/o Iswaran the team is pretty cui.

 

[ZacharyA]

Nothing wrong.
PSP in GE 2020 good showing was due to TCB effect (+ lee hsien Yang )
TCB is well respected so people gave his party face. Pity Hsien Yang had no interest in politics. Had he joined the west coast team PSP might have won the GRC.

The TCB effect would be gone this election. Of course dr Tan knows that, and he sent HP and LMW in to get exposure. His teams also worked rhe ground. This election do or die for PSP and they must win real seats, minimum 1 SMC to survive post TCB, or they would end up as another SPP.

Had LHY joined PSP and contest and won, LHY will be in the chambers, you want to see him clash LHL head on? Btw, all is moot now since he is avoiding returning back to SG

 

[ZacharyA]

All I can say is that your POV especially in the second paragraph resonated very hard with the top leadership of the party.

if I am not wrong, PSP led in the number of questions asked in parliament...I stand to be corrected!

Hahah, and LW said "too many questions"...

 

[GundamG]

I ask my old relatives grandparents and they all say they will support those that give them money. What can I say.

 

[rizhal]

They won big because West Coast GRC residents like TCB. And TCB had exposure because he was ex PAP backbencher + Presidential Candidate. He is likeable.

Whether PSP fare well or not this year, time will tell. But West Coast GRC w/o Iswaran the team is pretty cui.

Bro boundary change. High challenge for TCB.

 

[yperic]

WP chief Pritam Singh questions fairness of electoral boundaries report

Workers' Party chief Pritam Singh called the boundary changes “one of the most radical redrawing of boundaries Singapore has seen in recent memory”. PHOTO: ST FILE

SINGAPORE – Workers’ Party chief Pritam Singh has questioned the fairness of Singapore’s new electoral boundaries, in his first remarks on the topic since the Electoral Boundaries Review Committee (EBRC) report was released on March 11.

In a Facebook post on March 25, the Leader of the Opposition called the changes “one of the most radical redrawing of boundaries Singapore has seen in recent memory”.

Many political observers had expressed incredulity that population growth was cited as the reason for these revisions, he noted.

“There has been significant public commentary, especially by young Singaporeans questioning the fairness of the political boundary redrawing process by the PAP government,” Mr Singh said.

He added: “Boundaries are important, and the reasons that justify their changes, matter. A lot.”

The EBRC determines electoral boundaries ahead of general elections, based on terms of reference set out by the prime minister. This year, it recommended boundary changes in 22 out of the existing 31 constituencies.

The committee had not explained its decisions in several decades. But this year, it stated that population shifts were a key driver for changes in certain areas, which had knock-on effects on boundaries in surrounding constituencies.

In particular, voter numbers in Pasir Ris-Punggol, Sembawang and Tampines GRCs, as well as the single seats of Hong Kah North and Potong Pasir, have increased by between 13,000 and 23,000 in each constituency since the 2020 polls.

Mr Singh called on the People’s Action Party to make public its information on how people in individual precincts voted, including those in the areas of Marine Parade GRC that have been ceded to East Coast GRC, and “allow the public to draw its own conclusions”.

He referenced a remark made during the 2016 Bukit Batok by-election by then Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong about Mr Murali Pillai’s performance in Aljunied during the 2015 General Election.

Mr Lee, who is now Senior Minister, said during the by-election that Mr Murali would already have been an Aljunied MP if the division that he oversaw as grassroots adviser and PAP branch chairman had been a single-seat ward in 2015.

This was because Mr Murali got more votes in his ward than the Workers’ Party did, although his team collectively lost with 49.04 per cent of the vote.

Mr Murali prevailed in the 2016 Bukit Batok by-election and is now Minister of State for Law and Transport.

“Apart from highlighting that no opposition constituency is a safe seat and the risk of an opposition wipeout is an ever-existent reality, Lee’s revelation was instructive,” Mr Singh said. “The results of individual wards and precincts, even in GRCs, are closely watched.”

He added that the EBRC’s work is important for ordinary Singaporeans because all citizens seek a meaningful stake in the country, including a “functioning and robust social compact that creates trust”.

Mr Singh noted that the Forward Singapore report – which was put forth by the PAP’s fourth-generation leaders – upholds fairness as a shared value.

But such values can lose their meaning when “question marks about fairness abound right from square one, on an issue as fundamental as how we organise ourselves politically as a nation”, he said.

He added: “Opaque institutions like the EBRC carry a real risk of being unwittingly divisive, putting paid to a united people – ironically, one that is needed most at a time of important geopolitical shifts, potential external shocks and demographic transition.

“A report can be called anything. Forward Singapore, Singapore Together, Singapore 21 or Turbo-charge Singapore.”

Mr Singh concluded by saying that more can be done to build a more balanced political system.

“All the latest version of the EBRC report does is to show us how much further we have to go to build a democratic society, based on justice and equality. But each generation can and must do its part. And become one united people,” he said.

 

[malaysiaboleh69]

Out of so many PAP MP in Parliament, only Dr Tan Wu Meng I find not bad.

Almost every speech he started with "One of my Clementi residents......." real problems on the ground.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...-pritam-singhs-support-playwright-alfian-saat

PAP’s Tan Wu Meng criticises WP chief Pritam Singh’s support of playwright Alfian Sa’at​

https://www.todayonline.com/#whatsapp
"For nearly a decade, Alfian has consistently praised Malaysia to illustrate his disdain for Singapore,” said Dr Tan

Nevertheless, Mr Alfian posted on Facebook that it was “bad form” of Dr Tan to attack him as a way of attacking a member of the Opposition.
“If you wish to call me out on various statements that I have made over the years, then do it without having to drag other people into it,” he said.

Mr Alfian said he had made such remarks over the years because he felt that Singaporean nationalism was built on a sense of superiority, “that at times went close to contempt and hatred for our neighbouring countries”.

“So over the years, I have made comments, not just on Facebook, but also on forums and interviews, where I would try to offer alternative — meaning positive, meaning sometimes even rhapsodic — views of Malaysia,” he added.

He noted, too, that there are many other instances where he has been critical of Malaysia.

“In fact, I have written an entire play called ‘Parah’ (Wounded), which is deeply critical of the toxic racial politics in Malaysia,” he said.

He added: “If you had to go through this route just to attack another opposition party, the impression you’re giving is that their party manifesto and their policy proposals are so perfect and unassailable that you have to actually resort to this.”

 

[ZacharyA]

Agreed on this aspect. As mentioned before in my opinion the main issue is not the political party in charge but the political system. Personally feel that it is extremely unhealthy for a political party to have an overwhelmingly majority.

PAP has e.g 55% - 60% of seats in Parliament instead of around 90% now, then they have no choice but to listen to the people as they have to seek a compromise with the other parties to pass through bills, etc.




Take Japan's current ruling party for example, now Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) only has 41% of the seats (Their coalition with Komeito together is 46%, but they are technically an alliance of 2 different parties whose views are quite different) but they are still the ruling party cuz they hold the most seats.

This kind of structure will lead to the different political parties being forced to listen to the people, due to the fact that no one party has the overwhelming majority to pass bills on their own thus they need to seek a compromise down the middle.



Technically, PAP can still be the ruling party even when they hold 60% or more seats but unable to pass through bills on their own because they do not have 2/3 of majority seats.

Personally feel that this kind of political structure is more suitable for SG, over the years PAP has passed through bills such as increase in GST/Medisave/CPF, COE, HDB-related policies (including BTO), POFMA, and Manpower-related policies (including CECA and other Free-Trade Deals), etc. unopposed due to the fact that they hold close to 90% of seats.

WP and PSP's presence were unable to stop them. Thus, a Proportional Representational system kind of voting system is able to reflect popular sentiments more accurately (based on voting shares, etc.)

I agree with what you said, but the opposition also must has the right calibre, be mature about things and disagree proportionately. Right now, only WP seems credible. If every policy that PAP wants to pass and gets blocked for the sake of vetoing, then the whole system will come to a stall.

 

[ZacharyA]

Bro boundary change. High challenge for TCB.

I think West Coast-Jurong West still is his homeground. But forget about Jurong-Bukit Batok.