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later got cpi probably just this
You know what's the other sad fact?

Everyone was too eager to pull the trigger to jump in - it was evidenced by Monday's false rally and last night.

However, everyone seems to forget the US economy is still in shambles. And now that Trump backed off from the trade war and JP Morgan even withdrew their expectation that the US will go into recession, that means Fed or Powell won't reduce interest rates liao. We're now back to focusing on US stubborn inflation, .etc.

And with the massive selling, then buying of treasury yields (especially the 10-year and 30-year), means they locked in on that high yield. Trump just made the future of US more headache with higher debt interest payments. (I honestly feel he screwed up but spin it into a win and said it is part of his negotiation tactic).

Yet, market rally maciam like everything is 100% ok (also short squeeze, of course). But lol.

Today's CPI and tomorrow's PPI should bring reality back to the table :frown:
 
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You know what's the other sad fact?

Everyone was too eager to pull the trigger to jump in - it was evidenced by Monday's false rally and last night.

However, everyone seems to forget the US economy is still in shambles. And now that Trump backed off from the trade war and JP Morgan even withdrew their expectation that the US will go into recession, that means Fed or Powell won't reduce interest rates liao. We're now back to focusing on US stubborn inflation, .etc.

And with the massive selling, then buying of treasury yields (especially the 10-year), means they locked in on that 4.25% interest rate. Trump just made the future of US more headache with higher debt interest payments. (I honestly feel he screwed up but spin it into a win and said it is part of his negotiation tactic).

Yet, market rally maciam like everything is 100% ok (also short squeeze, of course). But lol.

Today's CPI and tomorrow's PPI should bring reality back to the table :frown:
The spike in yield caused Trump to pause the tariff. That's why China understands it, and decided to have a tit-for-tat tariff, and she will win victoriously.
 

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You know what's the other sad fact?

Everyone was too eager to pull the trigger to jump in - it was evidenced by Monday's false rally and last night.

However, everyone seems to forget the US economy is still in shambles. And now that Trump backed off from the trade war and JP Morgan even withdrew their expectation that the US will go into recession, that means Fed or Powell won't reduce interest rates liao. We're now back to focusing on US stubborn inflation, .etc.

And with the massive selling, then buying of treasury yields (especially the 10-year and 30-year), means they locked in on that high yield. Trump just made the future of US more headache with higher debt interest payments. (I honestly feel he screwed up but spin it into a win and said it is part of his negotiation tactic).

Yet, market rally maciam like everything is 100% ok (also short squeeze, of course). But lol.

Today's CPI and tomorrow's PPI should bring reality back to the table :frown:
That's why I said already, we are not out of the woods yet. One rally session all so happy and quick to say I'm wrong. Let's see who has the last laugh
 

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China throwing money to stabilize lor

Face more important ...if china stocks fall too much bad global impression.
Yes, look at both China markets and Hang Seng, well supported in the last few days because the Chinese nationalism is running high. Not only the state is buying, the people are also buying to stand up against the bully Trump.
 

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Yes, look at both China markets and Hang Seng, well supported in the last few days because the Chinese nationalism is running high. Not only the state is buying, the people are also buying to stand up against the bully Trump.

Well ironically china ppl biggest bully is CCP themselves .
 

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Not china la. China only 1T US treasuries not enough for a spike. It is the overall bondholders who think US is hostile to everyone and the treasury start to look like not a safe haven thing afterall. So trump suspend and will drop the whole triaff likely soon.
China starts the ball rolling, and those on her side will also start selling.

You may think that 1T is too small to cause any impact, it may not be always the case especially when people are panicky.
 

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Haha this what i also thinking

But 90 days might be sideline first before the big one come range up to 42000+ if not broken up

My next target is 28000-29000+ historical uptrend bounce line reversal,this is where my entry in covid at 19000-2000 range.

Despite a bullish doji
The sentiment ahead might not be good
 

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China starts the ball rolling, and those on her side will also start selling.

You may think that 1T is too small to cause any impact, it may not be always the case especially when people are panicky.
Trump already lost but china keep quiet and give face to them to involved talking and nego already.
Trump cannot afford their bonds to spike. He will think of other ways as Tariff doesnt work already
 

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Not china la. China only 1T US treasuries not enough for a spike. It is the overall bondholders who think US is hostile to everyone and the treasury start to look like not a safe haven thing afterall. So trump suspend and will drop the whole triaff likely soon.
Some article this morning said, it was the Japanese dumping the US Treasury...
 

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Some article this morning said, it was the Japanese dumping the US Treasury...
Bottom is in already but i think stocks wont be hitting all time high and stagnate at this 5400 - 5600 area till triaff is zero or gone. 10% triaff will slowly zap the stock value away…
The outperforming asset will be crypto and gold this year for stagflation. Dont miss out.
 

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Not china la. China only 1T US treasuries not enough for a spike. It is the overall bondholders who think US is hostile to everyone and the treasury start to look like not a safe haven thing afterall. So trump suspend and will drop the whole triaff likely soon.

thought left only 700B?
they also cannot anyhow dump, not they money
foreign investment wana pull they hab to give people back.
actually liquid to support they country only few tens of billion.
 

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Trump already lost but china keep quiet and give face to them to involved talking and nego already.
Trump cannot afford their bonds to spike. He will think of other ways as Tariff doesnt work already
Obviously the US is not match for CCP given that the US has been sleeping for decades.

The US is no longer no 1. The real boss is China now which the US has to accept it eventually.
 
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