The Permanent Portfolio Strategy - A reasonable return low volatility Strategy

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Seeking Alpha's recent look into PP.

2012 Permanent Portfolios Performance Review And Outlook - Seeking Alpha

The takeaway from this.

These portfolios should be treated as an anchor in one's overall investments.

I have been reading up about Ray Dalio's investment system. Ray Dalio is manager of the largest hedge fund of 130 billion dollars. One part of his clients' investment returns is based on 'All Weather' portfolio which is fully beta returns - "All Weather" portfolio is a risk parity portfolio similar to Permanent Portfolio in performance and characteristics. The other part of returns is based on a 'Pure Alpha' portfolio where he tried to generate higher than market returns. Combining different proportion of "All Weather" and "Pure Alpha" portfolio, he can cater more precisely to different client's risk and reward expectations.

Similar to Dalio's system, the core Permanent Portfolio can provide the pure beta (market) returns, while the Variable Portfolio can be used to try generate alpha (above market) returns to entire portfolio.

Seems Harry Browne's "Permanent Portfolio + Variable Portfolio" strategy and Ray Dalio's "All Weather + Pure Alpha" strategy have much in common.

Some nice articles about Ray Dalio's Risk Parity investment strategies to help further understand why and how PP, as a similar risk parity strategy, can work:

Read the "All Weather" Story

Risk Parity and Portfolio Construction White Paper

I think this is the only viable short term bond ETF available as of now.

It is higher risk so I won't put the entire cash portion into it. If the cash portion is above your 6-12 months expense amount, then put the excess into this.
I fully agreee.
 
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The ideas of a permanent portfolio and rebalancing are definitely a good thing to do! But as i mentioned previously, the allocations are debatable and tune-able to optimise returns further.

Actually looking at how this PP concept evolved to it's many forms as prescribed elsewhere it is amazing. Too bad we don't have some kind of REIT ETF locally. If not, I would conjure my own and replace the cash portion with the REIT ETF.
 

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The ideas of a permanent portfolio and rebalancing are definitely a good thing to do! But as i mentioned previously, the allocations are debatable and tune-able to optimise returns further.
Actually, new 'risk parity' portfolio like Permanent Portfolio have asset allocation designed to "optimise risk and returns" rather than "optimise returns only". Hence the 25% asset/risk allocation is necessary for risk balancing.

The mindset to "optimise returns" only is due to traditional approach based on Modern Portfolio Theory (MPT). Traditional portfolio based on MPT with assets optimised for returns (eg. 50% stocks, 40% long bonds, 10% gold), are typically riskier. They are typically stock heavy and underweight in inflation protection assets. As such, optimising for returns only also subjects the portfolio to rare "fat tail end risk" such as prolonged deflations, inflations, or recessions. Such events, though rarer, can still be severe enough to wipe out significant profits from one's "risk unbalanced" portfolio and make the investor quit the game.

In contrast, the "risk parity" portfolio such as Permanent Portfolio and Dalio's "All Weather" portfolio generally suffer smaller and shorter losses in major market downturns. (Source)

The Risk Parity portfolio concept "invented" and popularised by Ray Dalio et. al. focuses on balancing the risk - some call this approach Post Modern Portfolio Theory (PMPT). In the hands of an expert, such risk parity portfolio can be engineered (while maintaining its risk parity characteristics) to match the returns of traditional portfolio (which are returns optimised). If the professional (institutional) investor were to engineer higher returns for such risk parity portfolio (PP, "All Weather") they will use "suitable, moderate amount of leveraging". In doing so, they match traditional portfolio returns while retaining the "risk balanced" characteristics of the portfolio and still having lower portfolio volatility.

So my opinion still is, first and foremost, leave the "risk parity" characteristics of Permanent Portfolio intact and do not change the asset allocation, or risk allocations, of PP. The additional rewards of a "returns optimised" portfolio may not be enough to offset the additional risk in recent times of economic uncertainties, long term deleveraging and higher inflation chances.
 

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Take care of the downside and the upside will take of itself.

Believe or not, this was from President Tony Tan. :s13:
 

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Actually looking at how this PP concept evolved to it's many forms as prescribed elsewhere it is amazing. Too bad we don't have some kind of REIT ETF locally. If not, I would conjure my own and replace the cash portion with the REIT ETF.

Closest REITs fund i can find is a Phillips Singapore REITS unit trust (Click here) PP cash portion cannot be replaced with REITS fund... dont chase yields with Cash component or can live to regret it...haha.
(Note to others: Some ppl have reasons to use funds, therefore please dont comment about just buy the REITS directly instead of paying somebody else extra and buying into a fund).

I am also looking at CIMB S&P Ethical Asia Pacific Dividend ETF.
I seem to recall that dividend stocks should perform better in low growth environment and we seem to be headed for low growth in forseable future while US, China and Europe is deleveraging. This ETF also offer exposure to Asia economies.
 
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When there is a fund, in the future there will be an ETF! :D

Anyway, not surprising since the S-REITs have been the best performing REITs in the world.

CIMB APAC Dividend ETF just go removed from the SIP list. So there is no need for the silly requirement to sit through tests just to buy it.
 

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Actually, new 'risk parity' portfolio like Permanent Portfolio have asset allocation designed to "optimise risk and returns" rather than "optimise returns only". Hence the 25% asset/risk allocation is necessary for risk balancing.

The mindset to "optimise returns" only is due to traditional approach based on Modern Portfolio Theory (MPT). Traditional portfolio based on MPT with assets optimised for returns (eg. 50% stocks, 40% long bonds, 10% gold), are typically riskier. They are typically stock heavy and underweight in inflation protection assets. As such, optimising for returns only also subjects the portfolio to rare "fat tail end risk" such as prolonged deflations, inflations, or recessions. Such events, though rarer, can still be severe enough to wipe out significant profits from one's "risk unbalanced" portfolio and make the investor quit the game.

In contrast, the "risk parity" portfolio such as Permanent Portfolio and Dalio's "All Weather" portfolio generally suffer smaller and shorter losses in major market downturns. (Source)

The Risk Parity portfolio concept "invented" and popularised by Ray Dalio et. al. focuses on balancing the risk - some call this approach Post Modern Portfolio Theory (PMPT). In the hands of an expert, such risk parity portfolio can be engineered (while maintaining its risk parity characteristics) to match the returns of traditional portfolio (which are returns optimised). If the professional (institutional) investor were to engineer higher returns for such risk parity portfolio (PP, "All Weather") they will use "suitable, moderate amount of leveraging". In doing so, they match traditional portfolio returns while retaining the "risk balanced" characteristics of the portfolio and still having lower portfolio volatility.

So my opinion still is, first and foremost, leave the "risk parity" characteristics of Permanent Portfolio intact and do not change the asset allocation, or risk allocations, of PP. The additional rewards of a "returns optimised" portfolio may not be enough to offset the additional risk in recent times of economic uncertainties, long term deleveraging and higher inflation chances.

i am a finance person so when i talk about optimising returns it means returns on a risk adjusted basis. if not i would highly recommend some junk stocks or s-chips which can give higher returns without mentioning the risks involved.

IMO, there is no such thing as interest parity, balance or all equal, simply because

1) Gold, Equity, Bond and Cash dont have similar risk profile
2) Inflation, Properity, Deflation and Recession events dont happen in equal periods
3) Inflation, Properity, Deflation and Recession events dont happen with equal likelihood

So putting a 25% allocation to each asset is considered a blind and lazy approach. Of course it does work and the PP leads to reasonable returns which i agree for a layman investor. But does it make the porfolio an optimised one? I certainly dont think so because of the 3 reasons above. Laziness and blindness dont always yield the best results. Thats why there is a trade-off in this world. Someone who does consider the future likelihood of those events happening may try to tweak around with the % allocations to give a more optimised portfolio. Of course on the flipside, the portfolio can turn into a worse portfolio than what a PP can give. Thats a trade-off too.

To put things into perspective and as an example, let us consider a PP for an investor in India and Singapore. For a country with a weak government and inflationary environment like India, i think it warrants to put a heavy 25% gold allocation for a PP in India. For Singapore on the other hand, I dont agree with a 25% gold allocation. The likelihood of a hyper-inflationary environment to happen in India is much much higher than Singapore. So why 25% gold allocation in a Singapore PP too?
 

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i am a finance person so when i talk about optimising returns it means returns on a risk adjusted basis. if not i would highly recommend some junk stocks or s-chips which can give higher returns without mentioning the risks involved.

IMO, there is no such thing as interest parity, balance or all equal, simply because

1) Gold, Equity, Bond and Cash dont have similar risk profile
2) Inflation, Properity, Deflation and Recession events dont happen in equal periods
3) Inflation, Properity, Deflation and Recession events dont happen with equal likelihood

So putting a 25% allocation to each asset is considered a blind and lazy approach. Of course it does work and the PP leads to reasonable returns which i agree for a layman investor. But does it make the porfolio an optimised one? I certainly dont think so because of the 3 reasons above. Laziness and blindness dont always yield the best results. Thats why there is a trade-off in this world. Someone who does consider the future likelihood of those events happening may try to tweak around with the % allocations to give a more optimised portfolio. Of course on the flipside, the portfolio can turn into a worse portfolio than what a PP can give. Thats a trade-off too.

Sorry for wall of text here. Just trying to be clear.
A 50/40/10% stock/long bond/gold portfolio has sharpe ratio of 0.67, which is worse that the 0.72 sharpe ratio of standard 25% PP. On risk adjusted basis, standard PP still has the higher "rewards per unit of risk" (sharpe ratio) and lower std deviations, unless you can show otherwise. Data from Simba's spreadsheet.

I don't agree that just because the allocation happen to be 25%, PP is designed blindly and lazily. In fact PP is well designed because:
1) Gold, stock and long bond do have similar risk profile, in terms of having volatility around the 18% to 20% region. That is why they hold equal weighting in portfolio to "balance risk". Cash has zero volatility so it does not throw off this "risk balance".

The term is "risk parity" not "interest parity". Risk Parity initially looks strange because it is a relatively newer portfolio theory than Modern Portfolio Theory. Ray Dalio pioneered and uses his "All Weather" Risk Parity portfolio as foundation for his world largest hedge fund firm, so I believe there is some real merits in risk parity portfolio. You may wish to familiarise yourself more about "risk parity" theory first, if you havent yet. (here).

2,3) It is true Inflation, Growth, Deflation and Recession do not happen in equal period or likelyhood. There is a more important factor you have not consider, which is the size of the returns. For example, there can be 5 good years of Growth with 9% annualised returns, followed by 1 year of 'rare' recession with -50% loss to portfolio. So total returns in 6 years becomes just about 0.5% annualised. So i disagree that portfolio should be weighed according to probability of event of occurrence, without considering the size or consequence of the event.

Someone who does consider the future likelihood of those events happening may try to tweak around with the % allocations to give a more optimised portfolio.
I am not from finance side. Speaking from viewpoint of an average investor, the average investor should not try to optimise allocation to beat the market returns because: they cannot forsee the future accurately and do not have discipline to manage risk and losses. A working passive static allocation is better for average investor. Asking average investor to tweak portfolio allocation based on crystallballing the future eventually ends up in irrecoverable disaster.

To put things into perspective and as an example, let us consider a PP for an investor in India and Singapore. For a country with a weak government and inflationary environment like India, i think it warrants to put a heavy 25% gold allocation for a PP in India. For Singapore on the other hand, I dont agree with a 25% gold allocation. The likelihood of a hyper-inflationary environment to happen in India is much much higher than Singapore. So why 25% gold allocation in a Singapore PP too?
3 things: Most people cannot crystalball accurately 1~10 years into the future and say severe inflation has very low chance of happening in Singapore, or that Singapore's good government will not make a fiscal policy mistake (in the magnitude of two-child policy, COE, housing shortage), or that MAS will not depreciate SGD severely.
With regards to PP, Inflation is defined as currency depreciation. In Singapore's case, interest rate is near zero now so if there is recession in next couple of years, MAS cannot lower interest rate anymore to stimulate economy, so they will devalue SGD (a.k.a. print money) to make Singapore exports more competitive to stimulate economy. Just look at how Japan is trying to 'print money' to devalue Yen to "stimualte economy" to get out of their recession and deflation - a japanese gold owner will be making much money from 25% gold, or more accurately, preserving his/her purchasing power (wealth) singnificantly by owning 25% gold.

What i dont like most about adjusting PP asset allocation is that it messes up the "risk balance" and subject the portfolio to certain rare "fat tail" events that have severe consequences. We are still in middle of world economic turmoil and 15 years global develeraging, I cant predict what problems are going to happen next, so there's no way i want my portfolio to half-die from a combination of unforseen fat-tail events in future.

To optimise portfolio returns, as retail investor i would prefer to tinker with the separate Variable Portfolio to overweight certain assets now and then, without affecting core PP portfolio. That is, if i am capable of crystalballing the future, which I am not. :)

If i were a professional investor, i would optimise PP returns by introducing moderate amount of leveraging (around 30%) which will increase returns while still totally preserving the risk balancing and protection from severe fat tail events, without raising the risk much.
 
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Oh yes i was referring to risk parity. It was a typo.

Im not sure who is this Simba and what his spreadsheet is all about. But im very sure that the lower Sharpe Ratio of that 50/40/10% stock/long bond/gold portfolio is not indicative to all portfolio of other allocations from various markets.
 

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Oh yes i was referring to risk parity. It was a typo.

Im not sure who is this Simba and what his spreadsheet is all about. But im very sure that the lower Sharpe Ratio of that 50/40/10% stock/long bond/gold portfolio is not indicative to all portfolio of other allocations from various markets.
Risk parity portfolios do exist and work according to certain principles. I wonder if you have really understood what risk parity portfolios are about or know but just disagree with the risk parity portfolio concept.

If you are interested, Simba's spreadsheet is here
Source: website here (Note: Spreadsheet is for entertainment purpose only!)

In the page "Lazy_Portfolio_85", Harry Browne Permanent Portfolio ranked second highest in Sharpe ratio out of 25 passive portfolios. I think 25 different portfolio is a good indicative comparison.

In the page "Compare_Portfolio", you can create and compare your own Permanent Portfolio allocations. Most likely you will find that the 25% asset split still has the best Sharpe ratio.
Use following assets for PP:
VTSMX - Total US Market - TSM (Stock)
VMPXX - Tbills/Treasury Money Mkt (Cash)
VUSTX - Long Term Govt Bond
GLD - Gold

My opinions about PP's allocations are based on facts and figures, to the best of my abilities, and not based on unproven "common sense".

It will be better if you can back up your opinions with facts and figure too.
 

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In the page "Lazy_Portfolio_85", Harry Browne Permanent Portfolio ranked second highest in Sharpe ratio out of 25 passive portfolios. I think 25 different portfolio is a good indicative comparison.

You have rebutted your own point that a split 25% PP can provide the highest sharpe ratio among all portfolios. It is not always the most optimised portfolio. Thats the point that im trying to make. There could be other allocations that can provide a more optimise portfolio.

And if you consider the following allocations,

VTSMX - Total US Market - TSM (Stock) -> 40%
VMPXX - Tbills/Treasury Money Mkt (Cash) -> 0%
VUSTX - Long Term Govt Bond -> 40%
GLD - Gold -> 20%

It gives the same Sharpe ratio AND at the same time, a higher CAGR.

Sorry. The other point which i should have mentioned earlier is this. On top of looking at the risk adjusted returns basis, we should also look at the overall returns or CAGR of the portfolio too.

From the 25 portfolios, the PP ranks among the lowest overall returns. Would you be satisfied with the lower overall returns because of a drag from the underperformance of the other assets? If yes, then its your choice. Personally i would prefer a high risk adjusted return and at the same time, a high overall returns.

Thanks for Excel anyway.
 

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You have rebutted your own point that a split 25% PP can provide the highest sharpe ratio among all portfolios. It is not always the most optimised portfolio. Thats the point that im trying to make. There could be other allocations that can provide a more optimise portfolio.

And if you consider the following allocations,

VTSMX - Total US Market - TSM (Stock) -> 40%
VMPXX - Tbills/Treasury Money Mkt (Cash) -> 0%
VUSTX - Long Term Govt Bond -> 40%
GLD - Gold -> 20%

It gives the same Sharpe ratio AND at the same time, a higher CAGR.

Sorry. The other point which i should have mentioned earlier is this. On top of looking at the risk adjusted returns basis, we should also look at the overall returns or CAGR of the portfolio too.

From the 25 portfolios, the PP ranks among the lowest overall returns. Would you be satisfied with the lower overall returns because of a drag from the underperformance of the other assets? If yes, then its your choice. Personally i would prefer a high risk adjusted return and at the same time, a high overall returns.

Thanks for Excel anyway.
You are welcome. The spreadsheet can help to understand PP more.

First and second rank not too much difference, point is, standard PP has one of the highest, if not the highest Sharpe ratio.

It depends on what portfolio is optimised for. CAGR of your 40/40/20 stock/long-bond/gold portfolio is higher by 2% which is a lot over long term! In your case you optimised it for higher returns while making the portfolio exposed to bigger losses in major currency depreciations and recessions, which you probably cannot forsee in advance... you can probably contend with bigger losses and keep your money in portfolio for long term without plan to draw it out till retirement.... I cannot accept bigger paper losses.

In my case, i optimised for best risk aversion while maintaining as high returns as possible. Standard PP has the lowest standard deivations among all the portfolio, even compared your customised allocation. I think lowest std. deviations (and max drawdown) is worthed it for me to be able to sleep better at night irregardless of what happens to Europe, knowing my losses will most likely be lesser than other portfolios and I dont have to fret about how to readjust my portfolio allocations to minimise loss.

If you choose to experience bigger max drawdown or greater exposure to fat tail events in return for "possibly" higher returns, that is your choice too. A more attractive, but nontheless more risky, choice.
 
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You are welcome. The spreadsheet can help to understand PP more.

First and second rank not too much difference, point is, standard PP has one of the highest, if not the highest Sharpe ratio.

It depends on what portfolio is optimised for. CAGR of your 40/40/20 stock/long-bond/gold portfolio is higher by 2% which is a lot over long term! In your case you optimised it for higher returns while making the portfolio exposed to bigger losses in major currency depreciations and recessions, which you probably cannot forsee in advance... you can probably contend with bigger losses and keep your money in portfolio for long term without plan to draw it out till retirement.... I cannot accept bigger paper losses.

In my case, i optimised for best risk aversion while maintaining as high returns as possible. Standard PP has the lowest standard deivations among all the portfolio, even compared your customised allocation. I think lowest std. deviations (and max drawdown) is worthed it for me to be able to sleep better at night irregardless of what happens to Europe, knowing my losses will most likely be lesser than other portfolios and I dont have to fret about how to readjust my portfolio allocations to minimise loss.

If you choose to experience bigger max drawdown or greater exposure to fat tail events in return for "possibly" higher returns, that is your choice too. A more attractive, but nontheless more risky, choice.

Well, ratio allocation is just like football formation, 4-4-2, 3-5-2, 4-4-3 or even til-tika or total football

In finance, in short, optimized is usually in term of return and risk, so maybe in this case, optimized allocation is not appropriate or applicable in PP theory as pointed up by mike.

Whether is this equal ratio optimize will probably take forever to dispute.

Lets just keep it simple that 25:25:25:25 is strictly the ratio allocation that we have to follow if we are investing with the PP theory method. It may not necessary be the most optimal allocation ratio among all 4 asset classes to all finance practitioners but if we really want to invest with this method, then this is the allocation ratio that he has to follow and believe in it.

In future, lets just keep it simple and not say its the optimal because its not but rather this is the Permanent Portfolio ratio allocation
 
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Interesting that a boring portfolio garners the most serious discussion here. :s13:

I think practitioners of PP would know what Harry advised. That risk is always there and we have to accept it. At the same time accepting risk does not equate to how much risk you can stomach but how much risk can your wealth take at any given time. Knowing him from his previous books as a libertarian, he is a strong advocate for freedom. This also means freedom from worry. The PP is designed with this concept of freedom in mind.
 

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I think we are also debating to check if there are flaws in our ideas, not to win any debating contest. i agree such debates should not drag on for too long as consensus may not really be reached.
 
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just posting below abstract from an academics research in portfolio... just find their professional language... a funny contrast... with the layman language in our discussions here :s22:

Building on Lee’s (2011) point on the importance of a clearly defined investment objective, we put risk parity in the context of Mean‑Variance Optimality as a natural starting point. We give conditions of efficiency and study the properties of the RP portfolio in a one factor world in which the covariances are modeled by a market factor and idiosyncratic risks. We compare the input sensitivity and, hence, the turnover characteristics of risk parity, and next, we analyze its potential utility function and interpret it in a Bayesian sense to shed some light on the investment rationale. Finally, we report path-independent simulation results, and conclude that risk parity may be a preferable method in a regime in which input parameters are very noisy and returns are fat-tailed.
 

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Something to ponder about. There are many types of insurances out there.

Do you buy ALL types of insurances for yourself? If you do buy ALL, will you buy ALL of them with equal dollar amount of premiums OR do you buy ALL so as to receive equal amount of expected payout?
 

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Good read...however i still stick to 100% stocks.
i believe even within stocks itself, there are many classes.
diversification is always the key.
 
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