Low Thia Khiang offended a lot of PAP supporters with his tribute to LKY

[TrollAndOgres]

i usually very apolitical and support the hardworking and will not hesitate to reprimand the wrong doers. (which ever camp)

but please realise the fact for the last time.

one had a country to run and its not bad so far and will be better.
one ****ed up a town council !!

one gave reasons made changes and move for the better.
one gave excuses, rolled eyes !!

if you can ****ing do a better job than the current team, prove it and people will let you do it.

And u read e whole speech ?

 

[-73H_64M3R-]

U all need to be updated. that statement was interpreted by SPH people, whom later officially Apologised to the honourable LTK

Can LTK sue them like how PAP sues people for slander?

 

[stelee]

If anyone can think like LTK, one would thread carefully in such a time.

For we are a nation full of daft people, spiteful and resentful when idolised hero is tarnished and can't call a spade a spade.

Already proved time and again what harm it does when a country is in a One-Party-State, yet the followers are still sightless to see.

May I quote - At his death, George Washington was eulogized as "first in war, first in peace, and first in the hearts of his countrymen"

and someone/someone's son is "First to sue, First to fix, and First to strike Fear into the hearts of his countrymen".

Oh and by the way, George Washington did not pass the throne to his son.

 

[falconnub]

you fighting cock? serving the people need to always fight?

must your show your worth and contribution first before being promoted at work or must they give you the CEO job first before you are even willing to contribute?

Lol in what way are the MPs not contributing.

If you are free, go to their GRC and walk walk la. Especially hougang.

It's a happier place.

If you want to be so fixated with whatever the media is feeding you then so be it.

What I'm suggesting is you really go and understand what's happening and keep your options open.

Sent from Samsung SM-N9005 using GAGT

 

[TopGun]

Oh! So you are saying that opposition is incapable of anything.

Interesting, because Mr lee assembled his team and fought against the British empire. So how is that different? An empire of colonial power with military forces and economy power that is still greater than our nation till to date.

pap won and took over.
Just admit it, you won't lose face or pride.
worker party is not good enough.

I voted for worker party and that is what they did. Empty promises and with nothing to showcase.

You are expecting WP to fight PAP as if it had been PAP fighting against the British Empire or the communists?

Times had changed. We are talking about constructive debate, not a hostile takeover. With PAP holding the majority seats in Parliament, what kind of 'changes' are you reasonably expecting WP to make? Veto?

If WP can do in 4 years what PAP did over 50 years, something must be really wrong.

You have a problem with reality.

 

[Dalforce Singapore]

Oh! So you are saying that opposition is incapable of anything.

Interesting, because Mr lee assembled his team and fought against the British empire. So how is that different? An empire of colonial power with military forces and economy power that is still greater than our nation till to date.

pap won and took over.
Just admit it, you won't lose face or pride.
worker party is not good enough.

I voted for worker party and that is what they did. Empty promises and with nothing to showcase.

You must be thinking with your arse if you expect an opp team of 7 men with less than a term of experience in the parliament to go head-on against 80 PAP members with 50 years of experience.

If pap really want to kill the WP, they cld have done the same to them as they did to SDP and a few former WP members.

The fact is that WP has to play a waiting game for more opps to join before they can launch a credible case

If you were LTK, what strategy will you choose? Go head-on against PAP??? You must be out of your mind.

Be rational, be logical.

 

[cal127]

i usually very apolitical and support the hardworking and will not hesitate to reprimand the wrong doers. (which ever camp)

but please realise the fact for the last time.

one had a country to run and its not bad so far and will be better.
one ****ed up a town council !!

one gave reasons made changes and move for the better.
one gave excuses, rolled eyes !!

if you can ****ing do a better job than the current team, prove it and people will let you do it.

Impossible conundrum as WP was never elected in the first place. PAP gave sound reasons and WP offered..excuses? Did you voice your unhappiness when things get swept under the carpet under pap town councils? coz I would utterly be flabbergasted that anyone could have such a selective and ignorant view of history yet still attempt to lecture others about it. It's frightening, in a loss-of-truth-by-deliberate-selective-misinformation sort of way. But deliberate misinformation usually involves something to gain or protect (if you're an ib), whereas this is just... pointless and silly? Trolling? You made me feel kinda sorry for WP the level of responsibility you place over their shoulders.

 

[sky00sky]

Oh! So you are saying that opposition is incapable of anything.

Interesting, because Mr lee assembled his team and fought against the British empire. So how is that different? An empire of colonial power with military forces and economy power that is still greater than our nation till to date.

pap won and took over.
Just admit it, you won't lose face or pride.
worker party is not good enough.

I voted for worker party and that is what they did. Empty promises and with nothing to showcase.

 

[Nalgene123]

lol at all the bickering....don't know if it is EDMWer logic or what..if you viewpoint is different from mine....you must be wrong and I must be right...and I must educate you on the correct viewpoint if not I will insult you.....whatever happened to having an open discussion and...maybe its time to realize that what make the world unique is that different people have different viewpoint...

 

[Marthivin]

Upz this thread

 

[Dalforce Singapore]

This guy never read REAL history. LOL

Since when did LKY WENT UP AGAINST THE BRITISH EMPIRE???

LOLOL

 

[sky00sky]

This guy never read REAL history. LOL

Since when did LKY WENT UP AGAINST THE BRITISH EMPIRE???

LOLOL

Yeah.
And he stand corrected anyways.


Moving along..

 

[cal127]

lol at all the bickering....don't know if it is EDMWer logic or what..if you viewpoint is different from mine....you must be wrong and I must be right...and I must educate you on the correct viewpoint if not I will insult you.....whatever happened to having an open discussion and...maybe its time to realize that what make the world unique is that different people have different viewpoint...

The objective ones do agree with everyone the need to stop bickering over the minutia but we also need to acknowledge that as long as humans are involved in politics, all forms of government will eventually fail for some person or group or on some ideal. As already hinted on countless times, humans have a genetic disposition to be selfish. Therefore, no matter the system, someone will always want more of something at the expense of someone else. But this is also why authoritarian single party system is failing miserably, especially on our part of the world where the illusion of a great govt prevails. It went on admittedly well for our pioneer generation when they started out on nothing, not so today anymore.

 

[sky00sky]

So educate me please, where did the Colonial power came from? It is not the British empire right?! Educate me please!

Haiz.

 

[sCuzzZy]

PAP went up against Marshall and Lim Yew Hock with the Labour Front. There is no British power.

 

[Leviathan]

I am quite curious, when all the PAP MPs came up to speak in parliament everybody did not give a wooden nickel about it, seriously. Yeah, maybe some little comments here and there.

BUT when LTK came up to speak, wow all the eagle-eyed and fox-hearing viewers suddenly all became so alert and all jump the guns and picked up their pitch forks and torches for vengeance?

Give the man some credit, at least he was honest.

Can we say the same if someone from the opposition passed on and can we as the neutral viewers expect the same kind of response when the PAP MPs came up to speak? Hypothetically?

 

[Dalforce Singapore]

PAP as an opposition overcame the British Empire.
We, the people of Hougang, we gave worker party a chance because we had the balls to do it but they did nothing with that opportunity.
They did not seize nothing and have nothing to show for.

Even if our people want to put worker party on a pedestal, wp do not have enough capability to stay on top. We put them in parliament, but they are so light weight they are floating away, nodding their heads, keeping their mouth shut. Because they probably realized that PAP is fortified and remains impeccable.
It was hard to admit but I was angry and blaming PAP for something that I could had done better.

Show me how PAP overcame the ENTIRE BRITISH EMPIRE?

You don't even know what the f you are talking about. PAP WAS NEVER AN OPPOSITION PARTY.

Do you know that Gerald Giam has one of the most speeches in parliament?

Have you ever been to a parliamentary session?

Do you only read and believe everything you see on msm?

Did you not read about why I said WP cannot go head on against PAP now?

Do you not agree with me?

I ask you, how would you lead a 6men WP against 80men PAP with 50 years of experience and an entire government machinery (civil servants) backing them)?

Do you know that WP cannot even research for stats and other stuff because they have no access to such administrative support?

Go google Dr thum ping tjin, a historian, to find out more about our colonial history.

 

[sCuzzZy]

PAP as an opposition overcame the British Empire.
We, the people of Hougang, we gave worker party a chance because we had the balls to do it but they did nothing with that opportunity.
They did not seize nothing and have nothing to show for.

Even if our people want to put worker party on a pedestal, wp do not have enough capability to stay on top. We put them in parliament, but they are so light weight they are floating away, nodding their heads, keeping their mouth shut. Because they probably realized that PAP is fortified and remains impeccable.
It was hard to admit but I was angry and blaming PAP for something that I could had done better.

I'm not sure what do you expect WP to 'seize' bcos the result of the population white paper already shown even with extensive debates and 'fights', you can't achieve anything without one-third of the seats.

 

[Nalgene123]

The objective ones do agree with everyone the need to stop bickering over the minutia but we also need to acknowledge that as long as humans are involved in politics, all forms of government will eventually fail for some person or group or on some ideal. As already hinted on countless times, humans have a genetic disposition to be selfish. Therefore, no matter the system, someone will always want more of something at the expense of someone else. But this is also why authoritarian single party system is failing miserably, especially on our part of the world where the illusion of a great govt prevails. It went on admittedly well for our pioneer generation when they started out on nothing, not so today anymore.

Hyak made the same point in his book..The Road to Surfdom...in which he hypothesize that no matter how benign and good the intention of a ruling government is at the start of their rule....eventually it will succumb to thirst for power and would eventually become a tyrannical government to the people if it hangs onto the power for too long

 

[jammer88798]

Aiya.. wp cui, we still got other opp parties to consider.. ltk is not the only opp and he surely doesnt rep the opp..

Pui!!