Liverpool Forum (Anfield) - Part 15

[HuaiNR]

comparing Milner with Lambert & Kolo... imo its definitely a way better signal towards that intention but I know that milner alone will not win us the BPL title.
its gonna take more than that...

it will take at least two x 20-goal striker + three x 10-goal midfield + one god-like DM + two x 5-goal defenders + a good gk

That would be like buying a new team.... Haha

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[sportspree101]

for me i guess i will give rodgers another season. Think he deserved that after that runner's up position where he brought the best out of everyone. Some may say Suarez made him look better than he is and well that might be true but chopping n changing managers now won't be right as it just makes the club more unstable.

one thing though... i wish rodgers improves tactically. he reminds me of arsene in a way that he is very stubborn on his way of football and not tinker and set up tactics to counter another team. I may be wrong?? but that is what i think he needs to work on... a mixture of rafa tactical skills and rodgers man management will be great!

rodgers got man management skills? froze out DANIEL AGGER!!!

ZZZ

 

[_dXter]

It's like BR freezes and ships out those with football brains and replace them with headless chickens.

 

[GunzerX]

rodgers got man management skills? froze out DANIEL AGGER!!!

ZZZ

Add in borini Lucas balo

 

[HuaiNR]

It's like BR freezes and ships out those with football brains and replace them with headless chickens.

He doesn't like players that played under Rafa. Reason being they probably have more tactical nous than him since they were educated under Rafa.

Steven Gerrard is club captain plus landlord.. Undroppable..

Glen Johnson probably have some lewd photos of Brendan and his blonde mistress so also Un... Un... Un.. Un.. Undroppable..

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[LifeIsSuch]

comparing Milner with Lambert & Kolo... imo its definitely a way better signal towards that intention but I know that milner alone will not win us the BPL title.
its gonna take more than that...

it will take at least two x 20-goal striker + three x 10-goal midfield + one god-like DM + two x 5-goal defenders + a good gk

If we had such a squad, we would be challenging for UCL and BPL already.

 

[cwcyenk]

Glen Johnson probably have some lewd photos of Brendan and his blonde mistress so also Un... Un... Un.. Un.. Undroppable..

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This is funny!

 

[Carnage]

Liverpool didn't do too badly. They are qualifying for europa whereas David Moyes could not even get manutd to europa despite having an arguably better squad.

TC and the players have to share the blame too. BR manages to get liverpool to fifth despite the fact that Mario only scored 1 league goal for the team. I think other players are also underperforming. Eg. Lovren, Lallana, Lambert, Markovic.

But Rodgers is also part of the committee. He himself said that he had the final say in the signings, that there would not be a player forced to be accepted by Rodgers himself.

 

[Carnage]

If we had such a squad, we would be challenging for UCL and BPL already.

We're not that far off.

Skrtel scored more than 5 goals last year.

Lallana and Coutinho are more than capable of producing double digits in assists alone, just that our forwards are useless.

 

[econsmagic]

@Gerrard8FanPage: Liverpool are thought to be closing in on Real Sociedad defender Inigo Martinez as Brendan Rodgers looks to strengthen his defensive line.

MrBoywunder @MrBoywunder · 1m 1 minute ago
Mirror - Rodgers feels he would have enough central midfield options in Milner, Allen, Henderson and Can if Lucas went.

MrBoywunder ‏@MrBoywunder 2m2 minutes ago
Mirror - Rodgers is willing to listen to offers for Lucas. It's thought he is not dynamic enough, w/ Allen preferred in the holding role.

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Anfield Chat @TheAnfieldChat · 29m 29 minutes ago

Rodgers thinking Allen is better than Lucas overtakes selling Agger as the most confusing thing he has ever done.

Crazy to think allen is better than lucas

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[messi7]

We're not that far off.

Skrtel scored more than 5 goals last year.

Lallana and Coutinho are more than capable of producing double digits in assists alone, just that our forwards are useless.

Hard truth, our forwards are shiat this season.. When coutinho chiong up to attack oso no striker he can pass to, end up he has to dribble dribble and pass back or try something spectacular

Duno what instructions are given, our striker either track and press too far back or drift too much to the sides

 

[kopsalim]

If cannot buy all due to limited budget, at the very least get a proven striker. It's unbearable to see sterling at that position.

 

[messi7]

Crazy to think allen is better than lucas

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How to progress when we have such a clueless manager

 

[messi7]

If cannot buy all due to limited budget, at the very least get a proven striker. It's unbearable to see sterling at that position.

Most likely we are seeing Sterling as the false 9 again this Sunday

 

[Sinkie]

If cannot buy all due to limited budget, at the very least get a english premier league proven striker. It's unbearable to see sterling at that position.

i correct your post for you le

 

[GunzerX]

i correct your post for you le

ya such as benteke and ings.....sad to say i used to get excited on every transfer market. this time round I not looking forward to it as the players we getting is not good enough. probably 2nd hand from EPL.

 

[cwcyenk]

Most likely we are seeing Sterling as the false 9 again this Sunday

I think he might not be playing this Sunday. I will be surprise if he is picked. His heart is not in it anymore. I rather give the chance to someone else.

If BR really pick him, then BR is really clueless.

 

[HuaiNR]

ya such as benteke and ings.....sad to say i used to get excited on every transfer market. this time round I not looking forward to it as the players we getting is not good enough. probably 2nd hand from EPL.

Benteke blows hot and cold. Ings had one good (but not great) season in the PL. It would be a very big gamble if Liverpool were to put all their eggs into these two baskets.

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[kopsalim]

ya such as benteke and ings.....sad to say i used to get excited on every transfer market. this time round I not looking forward to it as the players we getting is not good enough. probably 2nd hand from EPL.

Massive change has proved to be unhealthy for the club this season. We have balotelli who needs to be sayang and lambert / borini who love the club.

Why not play them as striker role more often? I am sure they will get more goals.

 

[kopsalim]

For those who want to read the letter being petitioned by fans at Liverpool.

TO Fenway Sports Group, John W Henry, Tom Werner, Michael Gordon, David Ginsberg, Michael Egan and Ian Ayre

We, the Fenway We Come Not To Pay Facebook, YouTube, Twitter page, are devoted Liverpool fans from UK and Ireland. We are a group growing day by day.

In October 6th 2010, you took over this great club from Gillett and Hicks. Some saw you as Saviours. In the early days of show voting and kissing up to the fan base, some deemed this an Ownership that would take this club back to the glory days. Not us.

We are under no illusions here. Fenway Sports Group are business men, opportunists not saviours of this club. You saw a huge club with massive potential on the brink of administration and in massive debt and you bought the club on a steal. Christian Purslow called it the “bottom of the barrel” deal.

Weeks and months into your ownership, you did your show voting and your PR stunts to win over the fans and listen to their needs. You said we could compete financial with the best of them.

In September 2012, in failing to secure the signing of Clint Dempsey, you put out an open letter to the fans, that wasn’t so open for comments back from the fans. You stated in your letter; “I can say with authority that our ownership is not about profit. Contrary to popular opinion, owners rarely get involved in sports in order to generate cash. They generally get involved with a club in order to compete and work for the benefit of their club”. No wonder you didn’t want us fans commenting about your open letter with comments like that.

What business man is not in it for the profit? Fast forward to present day and we have seen some of our senior players sold to free up the wage… very similar to the tactics used at the San Diego Padres and the Fire Sale of 1993. While you don’t have Rosanne Barr coming out and destroying “You’ll never walk alone” at Anfield… you did have Dunkin Donuts make a complete mockery of our crest and made the eternal flames of Hillsborough into coffee cups. You would have a hard time convincing San Diego Padres that you were not in it for the profit and were to work for the benefit of the club.

In May 2012, your appointment of Mr. Jen Chang as the Club's Corporate Relations and Communications Director certainly wasn’t your greatest moment either after a couple of months into his position, threatening a Liverpool fan on twitter.

John Henry, you showed further disrespect to the LFC fans with your famous tweet “oh and sign Reus”. Your sarcastic tweets are a rather smug approach to the fans of this great club. It’s clear to us that opportunists such as FSG have no real ambition to succeed in football. FSG have achieved absolutely nothing in this sport. We have failed in every attempt to bring in our top targets since FSG took over. We also have a 91% failure rate in transfers made since FSG bought the club. We have missed out on some major signings due to a transfer policies and contract policies that clearly doesn’t work and will never work in the Premier League. This is becoming an absolute joke for a club the size of LFC. You can hide behind the smokescreen of Financial Fair Play all you like, but with the revenue from the TV deal and the many commercial and sponsorship deals you have sought after, there is absolutely no excuse.

You claim to be passionate about this club and the fans, and not in it for profit, yet how can you explain £12.7 million net spent per transfer window and especially while the clubs value has increased in the last 12 months by 41%? You claimed you can complete financially with the best of them and would not be a selling club... yet 35 players have been brought in, while 42 players left the club. You are passionate about the club yet you give us an interest free loan for the expansion of the main stand that we have to pay back to you within 5 years? Doesn’t sound right. You claim to care for the people of Liverpool and the worldwide fan base of this great club yet you have put up the prices of tickets meaning many cannot afford these costs. It doesn’t sound like you are at all passionate when you are reassuring the rest of Fenway Sports Management that Liverpool Football Club will not in any way interfere with your dealings or commitment with the Boston Red Sox. That explains why you are very rarely at Anfield.

Brendan Rodgers, an inexperienced manager was appointed by you in June 2012 and he stated that he made very clear that he would not work under a Director of Football. Yet you have a transfer committee dictating to him as to what players he can get and a contract policy that makes it next to impossible to get any of our first choice targets. You have got to speculate to accumulate, otherwise if we come up short with funds for transfer or a suitable contract, we will continue to fall short of the top 4 or 5 in the Premiership.

You can appreciate, after the trouble we had with Gillett and Hicks and their broken promises, we were always going to be wary of what owners we had next and analyse everything they said they would do and look at what they have actually done. It is our opinion that your first love are the Boston Red Sox and that we are just a short term investment that will make you a huge profit in the end. There is absolutely no structure to the club. It is a runaway train with plenty of people around it but no one really bold enough to put it on the right track.

We do not want our club run into the ground again or short changed either. This coming summer transfer window is the most important yet. We need to beef up our squad and we need marquee signings. Champions League football or not, if you pay the fee, and the wage, the players will come to this club. If you are going to back Brendan Rodgers, then get rid of the transfer committee and your policies and allow him do his job.

If you continue to go down the path you are going down, the fans worldwide, will get restless and they will be looking for people to blame and calling for people’s jobs. You can throw your managers under the bus to save yourselves but eventually the fans worldwide will be looking at you as being completely responsible for our demise.

There is a phrase that I’m sure that you have heard of and would do no harm in remembering it when thinking of your position in this club... “They messed with the wrong city”. Those who dared mess with this city, learnt the hard way and regret it to this day.

Your choices are clear. Our point has been made. Either KOP on, or sell up.

Yours sincerely

FENWAYWECOMENOTTOPAY
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