Huawei Nexus 6P (2015)

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Don't worry we post here first. We don't know exactly how many sets we'll receive (we try to put in a big order but you know, this phone is sold out in the first wave countries). It'll be a disappointment for me if any of you bros here who want one didn't get one, so we'll try our best.

Thanks for sharing! Hope it works out as planned!
 

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I don't know whose call it is, Huawei SG or Convergent but is it possible to have a limit set on the number of devices each credit card can purchase? Maybe 2 a card? Just so the real users (people on this thread) have a chance to preorder too.

Yes HuaWei Sg please prevent the scalpers!!
 

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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-review-preview-so-far-its-everything-id-hoped/

yikes! I am so getting this!

Display

I can't write even a preview review of the 6P without talking about its display. Personally, I obsess over displays on new devices. If I'm buying a device that I'll check up to a hundred times a day, I want it to look brilliant, and the 6P's display does. As we know, it's using the same generation panel as Samsung's Galaxy Note 5 (whatever deal Google and Samsung made, I applaud). It's bright and vivid as you'd expect, and crystal clear thanks to the 1440x2560 resolution jammed into the 5.7" display.

Plus - as a bonus - there's a toggle in developer options for "sRGB mode," which evens out the Super AMOLED's affinity for over-saturated colors. The difference isn't huge but it is appreciable.
 

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Hi, I'm curious why you want to swap Note 5 for 6P. Reviews seem to say battery life and camera is not as good. Even performance is either not as good or on par. The only thing going for it, would be the vanilla android 6.0.

Don't get me wrong, I like Nexus 6P. I'm considering between Note 5 and Nexus 6P since they are priced about the same, so I'm curious about your comments.

from what i have been reading so far, 6p battery life isnt anything decent..

and to think the battery capacity is 3450mAh..

and i thought note 5 battery capacity was crap at 3000mAh.. turns out the note 5 is actually faring better than 6p..

now im really wondering whether is it the SD 810 that is screwing over the phone .. :(
 

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Hi, I'm curious why you want to swap Note 5 for 6P. Reviews seem to say battery life and camera is not as good. Even performance is either not as good or on par. The only thing going for it, would be the vanilla android 6.0.

Don't get me wrong, I like Nexus 6P. I'm considering between Note 5 and Nexus 6P since they are priced about the same, so I'm curious about your comments.

Its a matter of perspective.


For me, paying for a Samsung phone with fantastic hardware that blazes benchmarks is pointless, Why? Because of Touchwiz lag and Samsung bloat.

So what if it tops all software benchmarks when touchwiz will just cause it to lag in the simplest menus.

If you have used a nexus phone before, you would understand the benefits of Vanilla android. Even the nexus 5 feels snappier than a Note 5 and im not exaggerating. And this is a 2 year old phone that gets trounced by the Note 5's state of the art Exynos processor in benchmarks.

Battery life in reviews are all over the park now, afterall reviewers only have had the phone for two days, some claim its awesome, some say it is average. And losing to the note 5 is nothing bad, afterall this is the current battery life leader amongst all android phones with a price that above that of the 6p.

So, it all depends on perspective , personal tolerance levels and different needs.
 
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from what i have been reading so far, 6p battery life isnt anything decent..

and to think the battery capacity is 3450mAh..

and i thought note 5 battery capacity was crap at 3000mAh.. turns out the note 5 is actually faring better than 6p..

now im really wondering whether is it the SD 810 that is screwing over the phone .. :(

Saw one of previous post having benchmark on the battery,even iPhone 6S with only 2450 mAh scores high similar to this phone.
 

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I've been using the Nexus 6P for a month, and updated 2 firmware sets. This is a mini review, but unlike other reviews on the net, I've been using it for longer than most people who will write (the rest are engineers and insiders who won't). Also don't forget that I'm a vendor. Suffice to say, I'll try to concentrate on those weird geeky things which people won't write about, for your benefit.

Chargers

First off, is how much the Nexus 6P's USB-C socket affects the post-purchase world for you. You need to buy the cables NOW, good cables which don't break the bank. If you buy offline the cheapest I could find was S$19 in Sim Lim Square 6th floor shop. I bought several cables, including an Apple original 2m for S$22. But I'm doing testing, see? I need cable for work, home study, car, bedroom, and power bank. I bought a lot of cables.

The stock charger which comes with the Nexus 6P is a 5V 3A one. This supposedly charges your batt from zero to hero in 57 minutes. I read that and I bought the 29W charger from Apple just to try.

Pic of the new USB-C charger from Apple which powers their Macbook Air
http://i.imgur.com/qZBRHDK.jpg

Result: I don't know. I also have a Qualcomm QC2 certified Choetech 60W and an Anker. The apple delivers 14.5V at 2A which is not supported currently by the Nexus 6P, and the other voltage is 5V 2.5A which it dutifully delivers. As a result, it doesn't charge real fast. Surprisingly the Choetech 60W actually pumps 3.1A at a time over 5V, which is beyond the rated ability of the Choetech in non-QC charge mode.

If you want to know more about type C charging please refer to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-3-1-vs-usb-2-0-t3221676

Battery

I am using it as my main phone so I don't do batt testing. It charges plenty fast though so I top up wherever I can. The pattern of my usage, with whatsapp, viber, line, wechat, skype, hangouts, facebook messenger beeping off the hook, an insatiable additiction to the internet with BOTH Facebook and Google+ and work email, viber and line voice and vid call, skype multiparty call, and google maps all the time when I'm in the car to optimize the route with traffic redirection, suffice to say if my eyes are not on my laptop they are on the phone.

That being said I am a prepared guy with even a high amp Innergie charger in my car. I'm never without power. I even went to Myanmar and forgot about all my cables (only had one attached to my laptop power brick) and in Myanmar signal is weak, internet is weak, so the battery just burns, and yet I never had a problem with batt power finishing because I had gear like a 10K Samsung batt pack (which I rarely used).

And one more reason why I can't test battery life - the model I have is the USA model. That model does not have the optimal band frequency support set for Singapore, so at indoors the cellular signal is weak and that burns through battery.

That's a lot to write about - I'm not sure about battery life and I prefer you read the run down tests which others do. I've had a Note 5 and Edge S6 before and I'd say that the batt life is comparable to Note 5 and Flex 2 but far superior to Edge S6.

Speed and performance

AIDA64 CPU info:
i.imgur.com/vcfoIO6.png


This Nexus 6P runs the Qualcomm 810 2.1 at full 2Ghz for big core, not the gimped 1.5Ghz of the Flex 2 and the 1.8Ghz of the 1+2. Together with stock Android, it NEVER EVER lags. Using this phone, I was able to get the Tsum Tsum scores which broke my all time records within hours of using this phone, WAY better than the Note 5 I had even considering my 2% more points boost I had because of levelling. WAAAAY more points than using the stupid S6 Edge which the edge totally screws up your Tsum Tsum game because your fingers get caught on the edges... (only Tsum guys need bother understanding this statement).

On the Flex2 if I'm out of the office waiting for people in our 34C ambient, the phone will lag until cry and abandon the tsum game. On Note 5 even through the glass the Exynos will burn through and heat your hand up considerably. On the Nexus 6P the alu back distributes the heat fine. (actually where got people use stupid glass back one? I thought Nexus 4 already showed everybody that it was STUPID!)

Real Racing 3 NEVER lags. Need for Speed NEVER lags. Hearthstone never lags. UI NEVER lags. And a 2 layer share - Camera share to Snapseed, Snapseed share to Whatsapp - doesn't slow down the phone the same way it totally throttles the Flex 2 and sends the Note 5 to jerkiness mode.

Suffice to say, real world PERFORMANCE is MUCH BETTER than any phone I regularly use. I don't use fruit. But I've used what previously was the king - Note 5 - and it is just smoother, animations I didn't even bother to turn off because everything so smooth - yes, the first thing I do with any phone after 10 minutes is to `become a developer' just to deactivate the animations. On the Nexus 6P I leave it at 1X so happy.

Camera

hahahahaha! The fun times I have spent with the camera. First firmware camera was good but hopeless in real world use. 2nd firmware camera ... good. My firmware still not the latest - I saw Marques Brownlee firmware build one build above mine. And I know there are more firmware rev to come, what the reviewers have today are not final.

I wanna show you some pics.

Beer glass. I don't know if the focus is right. Disregard if you think unfair. But take note of the way it handle complex lighting.
Nexus 6P http://i.imgur.com/p7fzZIL.jpg
I6S+ http://i.imgur.com/PUTflTu.jpg

Alley shot
Nexus 6P http://i.imgur.com/2oN16Hw.jpg
I6S+ http://i.imgur.com/7uNBFUD.jpg

Judge for yourself. Even if you think not better, the I6S+ is considered the king of real world usage, and to be even 50-50 comparable with it is saying that the N6P camera rox. And very soon we will get Camera 3.0 from Google and it will be better in usage than even now.

Handling

After you use the fingerprint at the back, you will think that everyone else is stupid never to think of that. Even king of back functions LG never thought of it, stupid.

The fingerprint (1) unlocks and (2) authenticates security. WOW. Does that less than a second. NEVER fails. The S6 edge is BAD. The Note 5is better than the S6E but not by much. The fruit has to press unlock and then authenticate, and it's also not so fast. But this Nexus 6P fingerprint scanner, this is gamechanger technology. It's so fast so accurate. No horse run, really. I SERIOUSLY save minutes a day by not needing to draw pattern anymore. I don't think I can use a phone without rear fingerprint scanner anymore. The fruit phone fingerprint scanner is now like dinosaur liao to me.

OK Google when off and noise reduction

With the new Google Android Sensor Hub hardware, when the phone screen off and phone sleeping, you supposed to be able to say `OK google' and then it will give you Google's listening ear. In practice with my firmware, it works most of the time, much like the Note 5 fingerprint scanner. When the phone screen on, it works ALL the time no fail. I found myself talking much more to this phone, because it is so convenient now and I can unlock the phone so fast, and because it is so accurate. In the car, I can dictate using Google Voice Typing and my Plantronics Edge headset and it is very accurate.

A lot of this `accuracy' I think, is the noise reduction. When you're using Viber Voice, you almost always thought you know when you are talking to a Samsung or Huawei phone - the noise reduction is excellent. With any other phone before, you do. The LG, Mi, etc. you can hear an echo of yourself even from the vibrations transmitted from the earpiece to mic - that's why with other phones, if you wanna use Viber without stress from the other side, you gotta use a top notch noise reduction bluetooth headset like the Plantronics Edge. With the Nexus 6P, the noise reduction from the stock mic is so good that the other side thinks you're in the office even though you're in the middle of traffic.

This translates to very good Google voice typing performance. Really important in the era before autonomous cars invented.

Navigation

For Navigation buffs, my oh my the Nexus log on like a crab grab your finger. It doesn't let go of the nav gps lock and it will lock on FAST. No bugs, perfect GPS.

Bluetooth

I'm use Bluetooth a great deal and I note every anomaly, if you don't use BT, don't bother this is too geeky. Still reading? Good. Typical bugs, specifically addressed below:

1. With many phones, when dialing with VOIP apps like Viber and Whatsapp and Line, phone will lose connection 10% of the time (estimate) and it will dial and think that BT is still connected. Solution is you have to switch off BT and on again, and you'll reconnect. For Nexus 6p - NEVER HAPPENED.

2. With many phones, when speaking on Viber on BT and a whatsapp message comes in, the phone speaker sounds and BT connection is lost and bluetooth is supposed to reconnect after phone speaker sound is over - I think this is Android design. Many phones DON'T MANAGE to do a reconnect. The Nexus 6P reconnects EVERY TIME using the new firmware. Old firmware did not reconnect 10% of the time, it's fixed now.

Font support

For people who need font support - I only know of my colleagues from Myanmar who have need for non-unicode support because Google was late to support them in Unicode and they're in a messy world of both Zawgyi and Unicode scripts - the Nexus 6P supports Unicode for burmese script perfectly but I can't hack the Zawgyi inside. iFont doesn't work, Zawgyi Samsung doesn't work. You need to manually root the phone and hack the Zawgyi one font inside. This phone doesn't yet support font selection (thank god I won't see normal Nexus 6P with comic sans!).

Bugs and crashes

There's once in few days the phone will slow down for 10 seconds like it's shitting in toilet, and then it'll be OK again. To me that's nothing. The abuse I put my phone through, those phones with custom skins will do the jittery slowdowns several times a day. Except LG. LG is fine.

Swiftkey had a font size problem. The suggested fonts were too small. I fed back to them and they fixed that in the latest version. Proof:

SwiftKey suggestions are too small to read on nexus 6p with Android 6

Hi there,

I'm happy to announce this has now been fixed :)

Please update SwiftKey to the latest version (5.4) in the Google Play Store.

Thanks for your patience while we worked to resolve this.

Very best wishes,
Sarah

Engagement Manager

The Camera if you too aggressively long press the shutter release for the multishot, it might hang for a few seconds when it dumps pics from buffer to flash memory.

The new Galaxies have a problem with backswipe word deletion and it still remains unsolved. Unexplained crashes because of Exynos graphics. In short, compared to galaxies, this phone doesn't crash. I have to hand it to LG - the phone is as crashproof as the Nexus. I don't know how they will perform under Marshmallow but their Lollipop support was great. So relatively speaking, the Nexus is about the most crashproof phone I've ever used.

Overall impression

I'm keeping the phone. Any color will do. I'll take the 128GB version. I have to return my current set (it's not final hardware and firmware anyway and it's customized to lock after certain date I think). I think the phone will last me a couple of years. I'm happy that I've finally found `the one'. I'm returning to Nexus after 2 years with G2 and Flex 2.

Can't think of anything else to write about now. Any questions? AMA.

ps: mystery SIM tray. The SIM tray is damn long lor. .... long enough for 2 SIM but not long enough for 1 SIM + 1 SIM+MicroSD combo. I tempted to take apart the phone to investigate for circuitry for 2nd SIM but I dare not. Ifixit will probably try and reveal to us.
 
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I've been using the Nexus 6P for a month, and updated 2 firmware sets. This is a mini review, but unlike other reviews on the net, I've been using it for longer than most people who will write (the rest are engineers and insiders who won't). Also don't forget that I'm a vendor. Suffice to say, I'll try to concentrate on those weird geeky things which people won't write about, for your benefit.

Chargers

First off, is how much the Nexus 6P's USB-C socket affects the post-purchase world for you. You need to buy the cables NOW, good cables which don't break the bank. If you buy offline the cheapest I could find was S$19 in Sim Lim Square 6th floor shop. I bought several cables, including an Apple original 2m for S$22. But I'm doing testing, see? I need cable for work, home study, car, bedroom, and power bank. I bought a lot of cables.

The stock charger which comes with the Nexus 6P is a 5V 3A one. This supposedly charges your batt from zero to hero in 57 minutes. I read that and I bought the 29W charger from Apple just to try.

Pic of the new USB-C charger from Apple which powers their Macbook Air
http://i.imgur.com/qZBRHDK.jpg

Result: I don't know. I also have a Qualcomm QC2 certified Choetech 60W and an Anker. The apple delivers 14.5V at 2A which is not supported currently by the Nexus 6P, and the other voltage is 5V 2.5A which it dutifully delivers. As a result, it doesn't charge real fast. Surprisingly the Choetech 60W actually pumps 3.1A at a time over 5V, which is beyond the rated ability of the Choetech in non-QC charge mode.

If you want to know more about type C charging please refer to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-3-1-vs-usb-2-0-t3221676

Battery

I am using it as my main phone so I don't do batt testing. It charges plenty fast though so I top up wherever I can. The pattern of my usage, with whatsapp, viber, line, wechat, skype, hangouts, facebook messenger beeping off the hook, an insatiable additiction to the internet with BOTH Facebook and Google+ and work email, viber and line voice and vid call, skype multiparty call, and google maps all the time when I'm in the car to optimize the route with traffic redirection, suffice to say if my eyes are not on my laptop they are on the phone.

That being said I am a prepared guy with even a high amp Innergie charger in my car. I'm never without power. I even went to Myanmar and forgot about all my cables (only had one attached to my laptop power brick) and in Myanmar signal is weak, internet is weak, so the battery just burns, and yet I never had a problem with batt power finishing because I had gear like a 10K Samsung batt pack (which I rarely used).

And one more reason why I can't test battery life - the model I have is the USA model. That model does not have the optimal band frequency support set for Singapore, so at indoors the cellular signal is weak and that burns through battery.

That's a lot to write about - I'm not sure about battery life and I prefer you read the run down tests which others do. I've had a Note 5 and Edge S6 before and I'd say that the batt life is comparable to Note 5 and Flex 2 but far superior to Edge S6.

Speed and performance

AIDA64 CPU info:
i.imgur.com/vcfoIO6.png


This Nexus 6P runs the Qualcomm 810 2.1 at full 2Ghz for big core, not the gimped 1.5Ghz of the Flex 2 and the 1.8Ghz of the 1+2. Together with stock Android, it NEVER EVER lags. Using this phone, I was able to get the Tsum Tsum scores which broke my all time records within hours of using this phone, WAY better than the Note 5 I had even considering my 2% more points boost I had because of levelling. WAAAAY more points than using the stupid S6 Edge which the edge totally screws up your Tsum Tsum game because your fingers get caught on the edges... (only Tsum guys need bother understanding this statement).

On the Flex2 if I'm out of the office waiting for people in our 34C ambient, the phone will lag until cry and abandon the tsum game. On Note 5 even through the glass the Exynos will burn through and heat your hand up considerably. On the Nexus 6P the alu back distributes the heat fine. (actually where got people use stupid glass back one? I thought Nexus 4 already showed everybody that it was STUPID!)

Real Racing 3 NEVER lags. Need for Speed NEVER lags. Hearthstone never lags. UI NEVER lags. And a 2 layer share - Camera share to Snapseed, Snapseed share to Whatsapp - doesn't slow down the phone the same way it totally throttles the Flex 2 and sends the Note 5 to jerkiness mode.

Suffice to say, real world PERFORMANCE is MUCH BETTER than any phone I regularly use. I don't use fruit. But I've used what previously was the king - Note 5 - and it is just smoother, animations I didn't even bother to turn off because everything so smooth - yes, the first thing I do with any phone after 10 minutes is to `become a developer' just to deactivate the animations. On the Nexus 6P I leave it at 1X so happy.

Camera

hahahahaha! The fun times I have spent with the camera. First firmware camera was good but hopeless in real world use. 2nd firmware camera ... good. My firmware still not the latest - I saw Marques Brownlee firmware build one build above mine. And I know there are more firmware rev to come, what the reviewers have today are not final.

I wanna show you some pics.

Beer glass. I don't know if the focus is right. Disregard if you think unfair. But take note of the way it handle complex lighting.
Nexus 6P http://i.imgur.com/p7fzZIL.jpg
I6S+ http://i.imgur.com/PUTflTu.jpg

Alley shot
Nexus 6P http://i.imgur.com/2oN16Hw.jpg
I6S+ http://i.imgur.com/7uNBFUD.jpg

Judge for yourself. Even if you think not better, the I6S+ is considered the king of real world usage, and to be even 50-50 comparable with it is saying that the N6P camera rox. And very soon we will get Camera 3.0 from Google and it will be better in usage than even now.

Handling

After you use the fingerprint at the back, you will think that everyone else is stupid never to think of that. Even king of back functions LG never thought of it, stupid.

The fingerprint (1) unlocks and (2) authenticates security. WOW. Does that less than a second. NEVER fails. The S6 edge is BAD. The Note 5is better than the S6E but not by much. The fruit has to press unlock and then authenticate, and it's also not so fast. But this Nexus 6P fingerprint scanner, this is gamechanger technology. It's so fast so accurate. No horse run, really. I SERIOUSLY save minutes a day by not needing to draw pattern anymore. I don't think I can use a phone without rear fingerprint scanner anymore. The fruit phone fingerprint scanner is now like dinosaur liao to me.

OK Google when off and noise reduction

With the new Google Android Sensor Hub hardware, when the phone screen off and phone sleeping, you supposed to be able to say `OK google' and then it will give you Google's listening ear. In practice with my firmware, it works most of the time, much like the Note 5 fingerprint scanner. When the phone screen on, it works ALL the time no fail. I found myself talking much more to this phone, because it is so convenient now and I can unlock the phone so fast, and because it is so accurate. In the car, I can dictate using Google Voice Typing and my Plantronics Edge headset and it is very accurate.

A lot of this `accuracy' I think, is the noise reduction. When you're using Viber Voice, you almost always thought you know when you are talking to a Samsung or Huawei phone - the noise reduction is excellent. With any other phone before, you do. The LG, Mi, etc. you can hear an echo of yourself even from the vibrations transmitted from the earpiece to mic - that's why with other phones, if you wanna use Viber without stress from the other side, you gotta use a top notch noise reduction bluetooth headset like the Plantronics Edge. With the Nexus 6P, the noise reduction from the stock mic is so good that the other side thinks you're in the office even though you're in the middle of traffic.

This translates to very good Google voice typing performance. Really important in the era before autonomous cars invented.

Font support

For people who need font support - I only know of my colleagues from Myanmar who have need for non-unicode support because Google was late to support them in Unicode and they're in a messy world of both Zawgyi and Unicode scripts - the Nexus 6P supports Unicode for burmese script perfectly but I can't hack the Zawgyi inside. iFont doesn't work, Zawgyi Samsung doesn't work. You need to manually root the phone and hack the Zawgyi one font inside. This phone doesn't yet support font selection (thank god I won't see normal Nexus 6P with comic sans!).

Bugs and crashes

There's once in few days the phone will slow down for 10 seconds like it's shitting in toilet, and then it'll be OK again. To me that's nothing. The abuse I put my phone through, those phones with custom skins will do the jittery slowdowns several times a day. Except LG. LG is fine.

Swiftkey had a font size problem. The suggested fonts were too small. I fed back to them and they fixed that in the latest version. Proof:





The Camera if you too aggressively long press the shutter release for the multishot, it might hang for a few seconds when it dumps pics from buffer to flash memory.

The new Galaxies have a problem with backswipe word deletion and it still remains unsolved. Unexplained crashes because of Exynos graphics. In short, compared to galaxies, this phone doesn't crash. I have to hand it to LG - the phone is as crashproof as the Nexus. I don't know how they will perform under Marshmallow but their Lollipop support was great. So relatively speaking, the Nexus is about the most crashproof phone I've ever used.

Overall impression

I'm keeping the phone. Any color will do. I'll take the 128GB version. I have to return my current set (it's not final hardware and firmware anyway and it's customized to lock after certain date I think). I think the phone will last me a couple of years. I'm happy that I've finally found `the one'. I'm returning to Nexus after 2 years with G2 and Flex 2.

Can't think of anything else to write about now. Any questions? AMA.

ps: mystery SIM tray. The SIM tray is damn long lor. .... long enough for 2 SIM but not long enough for 1 SIM + 1 SIM+MicroSD combo. I tempted to take apart the phone to investigate for circuitry for 2nd SIM but I dare not. Ifixit will probably try and reveal to us.
wah, review up early in the morning :o
 

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I've been using the Nexus 6P for a month, and updated 2 firmware sets. This is a mini review, but unlike other reviews on the net, I've been using it for longer than most people who will write (the rest are engineers and insiders who won't). Also don't forget that I........... ***quote truncated


thank you for the early review!

What do you think of the screen compared to note 5? From the previous reddit ama, google confirmed it's using the latest amoled panel from samsung.

However i'm slightly disappointed to hear from mkbhd's periscope that the note 5 screen is still better.

How does is compare, more interested in the sharpness wise as i'm quite impressed with the sharpness on the note 5.
 
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