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Moody's chief economist:

"Never before has the Fed hiked rates with the junk bond spread wider than 700 basis points, and that’s usually an indication that we’re in the later innings of this game.
Even if we go to the S&P 500, throw out all the energy companies that got hammered in the third quarter, the remaining companies in the S&P 500 showing year-to-year sales growth of less than 1%. I would think that the upside for interest rates going forward is quite limited." (Source: Moody's chief economist, John lonski)

Citi: US faces 65% probability of recession in 2016.

Ps: Your a nice guy and the things u share here is great for starters, just that we may not see eye to eye on the macro outlook. I will let the debate on free markets ideology/ Keynes vs classical school of economic thought to rest since you have no answers to it. But how about these legit claims from professionals and ultra rich. What's your take, shiny things.

For every economist, there's an equal and opposite economist. I think off the top of my head, the MS, Goldman, and Barclays economics desks are staying steady-as-she-goes for 2016; there was a handy dump of 2016 outlook papers somewhere on Twitter recently, I'll see if I can find it.

I'm a little bit torn on my economic view for 2016 honestly. I think there's a pretty decent chance that the US labor market starts to tighten up and we get a round of wage inflation (which means the Fed will end up behind the curve and they'll have to tighten faster), but that's not really the most likely scenario; I think more likely is that the US economy will sidle along with growth in the low 2s and inflation in the mid 1s, and the Fed does exactly what they say they're going to, and they keep slowly hiking over the next couple of years.

Also I think US inflation breakevens are way too cheap. You can, if memory serves, pay 5yr US inflation somewhere in the low 1% range. That's a massive pay.

Either way, it's not really going to change the way I invest.

No, it is because it is NOT conservative enough; 110 errs on the side of caution.

I see. My mistake then. Btw, I think I missed about the reason for 110-age numbers. Why 110 instead of 100?

IronMac - depends, I think you're using different definitions of conservative. A 110% portfolio is going to have more mark-to-market volatility than a 100% portfolio in the short-term, so it's less conservative in that sense; but it delivers higher returns in the long term, so it's more conservative in that sense.

My reason for going 110 instead of 100 is just that I don't think you want to have too much money in bonds with yields where they are.

Yup, that's pretty much what folks out there are suggesting. But I am in the belive that we should increase our savings instead of taking more risk in order to reach our retirement sum target. Just my two cents.

This is also a good idea! People who chase yield or chase high-risk investments are setting themselves up for a fall; saving more money is a safer way to build your retirement pot.

Hi, may I have everybody opinion on my new portfolio:

A35 Bond: 15%
ES3 STI: 60%

VWRD: 20%
VDEM: 5%

Yeah, as people have said, you're doubling up on EM with VDEM, because VWRD already has a decent slug of EM stocks.

I think you could afford to have a lot more money in overseas stocks; I'd be a little less in the STI and a little more in VWRD - but generally you're on the right track. Don't forget to invest methodically and rebalance every year.


Someone must have read this thread when writing this article. 110 - age! :s22: dollarsandsense.sg/how-you-can-create-a-buy-and-forget-investment-portfolio-for-the-long-term

Hey, if it helps spread the word...!

So after a few months i have my basic investment going following Shiny's method ... i'm now looking at insurance. I've gone thru many threads trying to pick stuff out. I'm sure i saw shiny discussing about insurance somewhere ... whats the take on insurance?

Insurance with any sort of investment component - so whole-life, endowment, or ILPs or whatever - is generally a terrible idea. Never buy whole-life. Never buy endowment policies. Never ever buy ILPs.

If you have dependents (like, parents with no other income or assets, or if you've got a stay-at-home spouse with a kid), then get term life insurance, in an amount equal to 5-10 times your annual income, that lasts until the kid turns 21.

And you've already got a Medishield plan, so that'll cover your "unexpected hospital expenses"; you don't need anything above or beyond that.

That's it. That's all you need.

There are people on these boards pumping thousands of dollars a month into insurance policies because the nice lady at Prudential or Aviva told them a scare story about "what if the worst happens to you, is your family protected?". Don't be that person.
 

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IronMac - depends, I think you're using different definitions of conservative. A 110% portfolio is going to have more mark-to-market volatility than a 100% portfolio in the short-term, so it's less conservative in that sense; but it delivers higher returns in the long term, so it's more conservative in that sense.

I think that you have to consider what is the ultimate purpose of a retirement portfolio and that is it has to provide for someone in their old age. It's not a question of how volatile or risky a portfolio is. The risk to be concerned about is whether or not the portfolio runs out before the retiree does.
 

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Anybody knows for overseas cash withdrawal using debit/credit/ATM card, should we choose the bank rate or the Maestro/Cirrus/Plus rate ?
Which is generally better after adding up all the charges?
 
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Anybody knows for overseas cash withdrawal using debit/credit/ATM card, should we choose the bank rate or the Maestro/Cirrus/Plus rate ?
Which is generally better after adding up all the charges?

Why would you want to draw cash overseas?
 

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I think that you have to consider what is the ultimate purpose of a retirement portfolio and that is it has to provide for someone in their old age. It's not a question of how volatile or risky a portfolio is. The risk to be concerned about is whether or not the portfolio runs out before the retiree does.

Yeah, this is fair! I think the counterargument is that you don't want the portfolio to be too volatile: during the accumulation phase (before you retire), too much volatility's going to scare people out of the market; and during the distribution phase (after you retire), too much volatility increases the risk that the portfolio hits zero early.

That's the logic behind having at least some allocation to bonds (and scaling that allocation up as you get older). I think from reading your posts we sort of agree on that, and it's just a question of magnitude?
 

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Anybody knows for overseas cash withdrawal using debit/credit/ATM card, should we choose the bank rate or the Maestro/Cirrus/Plus rate ?
Which is generally better after adding up all the charges?

No idea. Try asking in the credit-card forum.
 

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Insurance with any sort of investment component - so whole-life, endowment, or ILPs or whatever - is generally a terrible idea. Never buy whole-life. Never buy endowment policies. Never ever buy ILPs.

If you have dependents (like, parents with no other income or assets, or if you've got a stay-at-home spouse with a kid), then get term life insurance, in an amount equal to 5-10 times your annual income, that lasts until the kid turns 21.

And you've already got a Medishield plan, so that'll cover your "unexpected hospital expenses"; you don't need anything above or beyond that.

That's it. That's all you need.

There are people on these boards pumping thousands of dollars a month into insurance policies because the nice lady at Prudential or Aviva told them a scare story about "what if the worst happens to you, is your family protected?". Don't be that person.


Thank you for your insight !

1) no whole life / endowment / ILPs : got it :D
2) im single / no kids / parents are well off on their own and dont technically need any money from me though i contribute to them from my monthly salary : so technically ... i don't need term insurance? ... unless i have dependents who rely on my money so to speak ...
3) you would personally be fine with just medishield life? not even go for an integrated plan for just abit more coverage? or is that just getting fancy?

Not jumping on anything just yet. just trying to learn more.

cheers! :s12:
 

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2) im single / no kids / parents are well off on their own and dont technically need any money from me though i contribute to them from my monthly salary : so technically ... i don't need term insurance? ... unless i have dependents who rely on my money so to speak ...

Yep, exactly right. Save your money.

3) you would personally be fine with just medishield life? not even go for an integrated plan for just abit more coverage? or is that just getting fancy?

Nope, Medishield life is fine. All the integrated plan does is get you into a fancier hospital.
 

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Yeah, this is fair! I think the counterargument is that you don't want the portfolio to be too volatile: during the accumulation phase (before you retire), too much volatility's going to scare people out of the market; and during the distribution phase (after you retire), too much volatility increases the risk that the portfolio hits zero early.

That's the logic behind having at least some allocation to bonds (and scaling that allocation up as you get older). I think from reading your posts we sort of agree on that, and it's just a question of magnitude?

LOL! I think that the portfolio allocation method that you espouse is good for the DIY investor who has little experience and knowledge about the market. It's also a good reality check for those who think they know it all about the market and are trading stocks like they're changing socks.
 

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Yep, exactly right. Save your money.



Nope, Medishield life is fine. All the integrated plan does is get you into a fancier hospital.

I disagree on just relying on Medishield life. I still prefer an integrated plan, first and foremost it gives me more options.

If I need some specialized medical care and it's only available in private hospital, having only medishield life will not allow me to have that option, right?

And queue wise, private hospitals are normally shorter waiting time compared to structured hospitals, so to me, it's not only about fancier hospitals.

And last but not least, I need aircon in the room, hard truth! :s13:
 
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I think that the portfolio allocation method that you espouse is good for the DIY investor who has little experience and knowledge about the market.

Kinda agree with this. But it's worth noting Jack Bogle actually suggest 50/50 for starters.

What's important in due time, new investor will accumulation real life experience about the market, therefore they will adjust the allocation base on how they are experiencing emotionally.

For instant, when a market drop 50%, what do they do during that period.

If:
1.if they panic n sell, then perhaps their allocation is too much on stock, thus they have to reduce it.
2. If they do nothing. Then perhaps the allocation are ok.
3. If they buy more and I kodus them, then perhaps their suitable allocation should increase.

Reference reading: bill bernstein, the age of an investor: a critical look at life cycle investing.
 

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I agree with starfish about medishield life.
My friend had an accident and his little finger was ripped off( sort of) and he went to a public one and he had to wait for 1 month for a particular doctor who specialised in this little finger...fed up he went to private and he did it next day with that particular doctor.

It's all about the money cruel as it sounds . can't imagine waiting for a month to do the surgery...I mean won't the bone set?

I'm not an agent. Other insurance , yes its unnecessary if one has no dependent , else term is the way
 

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I disagree on just relying on Medishield life. I still prefer an integrated plan, first and foremost it gives me more options.

If I need some specialized medical care and it's only available in private hospital, having only medishield life will not allow me to have that option, right?

And queue wise, private hospitals are normally shorter waiting time compared to structured hospitals, so to me, it's not only about fancier hospitals.

And last but not least, I need aircon in the room, hard truth! :s13:

Hold your horses! Private hospitals, Ward A etc may still be claimable! Please read through pg 14 of the link!

https://www.cpf.gov.sg/Assets/members/Documents/EnglishInformationBookletfortheNewlyInsured.pdf

Assuming that your pro-rated bill is more than the deductible of $2000, you can STILL CLAIM for your hospitalisation.
 

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Hold your horses! Private hospitals, Ward A etc may still be claimable! Please read through pg 14 of the link!

https://www.cpf.gov.sg/Assets/members/Documents/EnglishInformationBookletfortheNewlyInsured.pdf

Assuming that your pro-rated bill is more than the deductible of $2000, you can STILL CLAIM for your hospitalisation.

Thanks for sending the link, made me curious so I went to understand more. Personally I am on incomeshield enhanced advantage so I went to see if there's any comparison charts between the 2, and voila!

https://www.income.com.sg/forms/brochure/enhanced-incomeshield-printed-brochure.aspx?ext=.pdf

Yes true that medishield life allows you to claim 35%.
However the integrated shield plan allows me to claim 65% plus other factors. And I know how much medical bills can pile up and 30% diff is huge for me. So far I can afford the integrated plan premium so I will continue.
Perhaps one day when I couldn't then I might just *cry* and get used to fans. :p

I should stop here. Don't want to further hijack shiny's thread. :)
 
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