Home Network Setup

[gap969]

Hello

Am currently renovating my house (Small terrace house) and have included Cat7 cables points in the house for the below list of equipment

Level 1
Living room - TV
Guest room -TV
Surveillance camera - backyard
Surveillance camera- front porch

Level 2
Master bedroom - TV
Bedroom 2 - TV
Bedroom 3- TV

Question: As i look to setup my fiber point at the living room TV area and look to subscribe a new fiber plan, what would be the recommended router/modem/switches in terms of this setup which would cater for direct lan connection to all TVs and Surveillance cameras (TV for Netflix and Youtube)

I would also look to install Wifimesh for mobile devices

Thank you in advance

 

[creator88]

Are you looking for Fibre TV in each of the 5 rooms? Starhub or Singtel?

I think Starhub is only able to support a maximum of 4 Fibre TV Set-Top Boxes per Fibre Port.

I came up with a setup diagram previously, may be useful for reference if you are using Starhub. Not tested yet though.

Do also note that if you are considering the use of Fibre TV, may wish to consider installing two LAN points near each TV (one for Fibre TV signal, another for wired internet connection). Starhub splits their TV and internet over two separate networks.

Workaround is to use smart switches, but more manual tinkering required.

 

[gap969]

Rather than Wifimesh, consider the Ubiquiti AP on each level. The Ubiquiti Enterprise routers are more worth your money than consumer grade routers.

Also consider getting a networking switch for your wired devices.

Or if you are looking for something cheaper, NETGEAR offers a Wired only switch with up to 8 ports.

Thanks for the heads up , i will review these routers to understand further

 

[gap969]

Are you looking for Fibre TV in each of the 5 rooms? Starhub or Singtel?

I think Starhub is only able to support a maximum of 4 Fibre TV Set-Top Boxes per Fibre Port.

I came up with a setup diagram previously, may be useful for reference if you are using Starhub. Not tested yet though.

Do also note that if you are considering the use of Fibre TV, may wish to consider installing two LAN points near each TV (one for Fibre TV signal, another for wired internet connection). Starhub splits their TV and internet over two separate networks.

Workaround is to use smart switches, but more manual tinkering required.

Thank you for the response creator88
The primary objective for the TVs is only to stream netflix or youtube
Am considering Singtel 2Gbps fiber, wish to setup in a way where the split of the bandwidth 1Gbps for TV streaming and 1Gbps for Wifi devices
Just wish to understand and future proof the setup

 

[creator88]

Thank you for the response creator88
The primary objective for the TVs is only to stream netflix or youtube
Am considering Singtel 2Gbps fiber, wish to setup in a way where the split of the bandwidth 1Gbps for TV streaming and 1Gbps for Wifi devices
Just wish to understand and future proof the setup

I'm not so familiar with the Singnet 2gbps Fibre home bundle, but i assume it's referring to this one: https://www.singtel.com/content/dam/singtel/internet/2gbps/2Gbps_FAQ_Customer.pdf

Based on the FAQ, even though its a 2gbps plan, each LAN port can only support up to a maximum of 1gbps. So theoretically, if you use just two ports, it would facilitate the maximization of your 2gbps plan.

First port, you can connect to a network switch, which is in turn connect through structured cabling to your various LAN points in each room.

2nd port, you can connect directly to your Wifi device like Google Mesh etc. Don't think Wifi technology can reach 1gbps though

Was reading the FAQ, it also mentions they also do some bit torrent throttling. Just take note if that matters to you

 

[dryteletubby]

Assuming you have ethernet trunking round your house, you can go with a full ubiquiti unifi setup with the unifi USG (router), unifi switch and unifi WiFi access point either ceiling mounted or in wall versions. Ubiquiti also makes security cameras which along with the network equipment can be controlled via the same cloudkey gen 2+ controller
https://store.ui.com/products/unifi-...ey-gen2-plus-1

I don't think for your use case you will need 2Gbps worth of bandwidth. I have "only" 500Mbps broadband and I usually can seed 2+ TB of torrents a day while hosting videos on plex, running 2 VPN servers, steam 4k YouTube videos and play online game all at the same time.

 

[xonix]

For your info on 4K bandwidth : https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306

 

[bubbleteajanjee]

Assuming you have ethernet trunking round your house, you can go with a full ubiquiti unifi setup with the unifi USG (router), unifi switch and unifi WiFi access point either ceiling mounted or in wall versions. Ubiquiti also makes security cameras which along with the network equipment can be controlled via the same cloudkey gen 2+ controller
https://store.ui.com/products/unifi-...ey-gen2-plus-1

I don't think for your use case you will need 2Gbps worth of bandwidth. I have "only" 500Mbps broadband and I usually can seed 2+ TB of torrents a day while hosting videos on plex, running 2 VPN servers, steam 4k YouTube videos and play online game all at the same time.

Nice one. Are you having issues with the set up?

 

[gap969]

I'm not so familiar with the Singnet 2gbps Fibre home bundle, but i assume it's referring to this one: https://www.singtel.com/content/dam/singtel/internet/2gbps/2Gbps_FAQ_Customer.pdf

Based on the FAQ, even though its a 2gbps plan, each LAN port can only support up to a maximum of 1gbps. So theoretically, if you use just two ports, it would facilitate the maximization of your 2gbps plan.

First port, you can connect to a network switch, which is in turn connect through structured cabling to your various LAN points in each room.

2nd port, you can connect directly to your Wifi device like Google Mesh etc. Don't think Wifi technology can reach 1gbps though

Was reading the FAQ, it also mentions they also do some bit torrent throttling. Just take note if that matters to you

Yes thats the one
Would probably have to do that (1 port via switch for LAN line to all TV and 2nd port for wifi mesh for wireless devices)
Or go all out for Singtel 10Gbps (For bragging rights)

 

[gap969]

Assuming you have ethernet trunking round your house, you can go with a full ubiquiti unifi setup with the unifi USG (router), unifi switch and unifi WiFi access point either ceiling mounted or in wall versions. Ubiquiti also makes security cameras which along with the network equipment can be controlled via the same cloudkey gen 2+ controller
https://store.ui.com/products/unifi-...ey-gen2-plus-1

I don't think for your use case you will need 2Gbps worth of bandwidth. I have "only" 500Mbps broadband and I usually can seed 2+ TB of torrents a day while hosting videos on plex, running 2 VPN servers, steam 4k YouTube videos and play online game all at the same time.

Well its a future proof plan as all the lan cables are concealed
Have teenagers ,aged parents and me streaming movies in individual rooms while connecting mobile devices to social media and running sportify all at the same time

 

[gap969]

For your info on 4K bandwidth : https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306

Thanks for this, we have 4 bedrooms running 4K TV, living room OLED TV
Hope to be able to stream 4K content with zero lag

 

[dryteletubby]

Nice one. Are you having issues with the set up?

I only have one unifi AP and it's working fine.

You can check out
reddit.com/r/ubiquiti for more info.

 

[dryteletubby]

Yes thats the one
Would probably have to do that (1 port via switch for LAN line to all TV and 2nd port for wifi mesh for wireless devices)
Or go all out for Singtel 10Gbps (For bragging rights)

The cheapest unifi 10G router will cost you $3.8Khttps://sg.alagas.shop/ubnt-usg-xg-8-unifi-security-gateway.html not incuding a media converter unless you plan to build a 10G router with 10G rj45 ports, 10G switch and 10G network ports for your PC etc.

Current 10G internet plans from the usual ISP like SingTel, M1, viewquest etc are all pretty pathetic as all of them include the same restrictions like no web hosting etc like their 1Gbps equivalent.

You can consider Superinternet 10G plan but don't Sign up for it unless you know what you are doing

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/next-generation-broadband-network-ngbn-forum-320/superinternet-10gbps-access-residential-service-5296094-11.html

 

[creator88]

You mentioned you intend to connect the two surveillance cameras to the network as well.

Depending on the type of surveillance cameras chosen, you may wish to connect them to a POE switch (Power over ethernet). This way, the cameras can draw power directly from switch over lan cable, no need to have separate power source for the cameras.

 

[galliano]

You mentioned you intend to connect the two surveillance cameras to the network as well.

Depending on the type of surveillance cameras chosen, you may wish to connect them to a POE switch (Power over ethernet). This way, the cameras can draw power directly from switch over lan cable, no need to have separate power source for the cameras.

Personally, i've been using the Yi Cameras (from Xiaomi) and they work really well and easily. Wide angle + colour + 16Gb SD card storage + fast playback + real-time monitoring. For $39, its good camera surprisingly. Just download the Yi Camera app, and plug camera into power socket. I can control/view each cam using the Yi Cam app.

Also just set up my home network for my terence recently, in the end i kept it very very simple. Surprisingly, the Linksys router worked wall enough for me (even for my 2nd level). I have LAN ports in all my rooms, but have not used any.

 

[gap969]

You mentioned you intend to connect the two surveillance cameras to the network as well.

Depending on the type of surveillance cameras chosen, you may wish to connect them to a POE switch (Power over ethernet). This way, the cameras can draw power directly from switch over lan cable, no need to have separate power source for the cameras.

Thank you for the response
the camera power points have been setup by my electrician already with wiring to the proposed network base (Living room TV console)

 

[gap969]

Personally, i've been using the Yi Cameras (from Xiaomi) and they work really well and easily. Wide angle + colour + 16Gb SD card storage + fast playback + real-time monitoring. For $39, its good camera surprisingly. Just download the Yi Camera app, and plug camera into power socket. I can control/view each cam using the Yi Cam app.

Also just set up my home network for my terence recently, in the end i kept it very very simple. Surprisingly, the Linksys router worked wall enough for me (even for my 2nd level). I have LAN ports in all my rooms, but have not used any.

cams were recommended by electrician and includes 1T recorder
will have a look at Yi Cameras , thanks again

 

[squarepipe]

Go with ubiquiti lah. Router, switch, WiFi access points & camera can be all under the same physical controller. Don't make you life harder by using different brand for each equipment.

Also Xiaomi yi cameras can't be poe powered and records to an SD card. If you already pay an electrician to install ethernet for poe cameras don't waste them with cheap cams.

Ubiquiti network cameras are a step up from those cheap network cameras as it can record to a network video recorder (the unifi cloud key gen 2+)

You want to go full hardcore and have the same security system as most public buildings you can get a hikvision but those would cost thousands.

 

[gap969]

Go with ubiquiti lah. Router, switch, WiFi access points & camera can be all under the same physical controller. Don't make you life harder by using different brand for each equipment.

Also Xiaomi yi cameras can't be poe powered and records to an SD card. If you already pay an electrician to install ethernet for poe cameras don't waste them with cheap cams.

Ubiquiti network cameras are a step up from those cheap network cameras as it can record to a network video recorder (the unifi cloud key gen 2+)

You want to go full hardcore and have the same security system as most public buildings you can get a hikvision but those would cost thousands.

Electrician providing this set
https://www.vstarcam.com.sg/ SafeVue-1080P-IP-CCTV-Package-2

 

[hawthorne]

Electrician providing this set
https://www.vstarcam.com.sg/ SafeVue-1080P-IP-CCTV-Package-2

The price is quite hard to beat,compared to a full ubiquiti set up. However, I dunno how the camera compares to the ubiquiti ones.

I'm using the blink xt as it's challenging to pull Ethernet to certain parts of my house. This one is battery powered, connects via WiFi and it comes with a free cloud storage for your videos.

https://blinkforhome.com/products/xt-one-camera-system