Y saying buying Lakshmi Vilas Bank and still such a high salary give me warning?

[mgx-alander]

Y no admin answer moi?

 

[suzukaze]

Last time I also tio infract cos Indian student killed in Ukraine I commented 'oh dear how sad never mind' in reference to a popular line from a popular British TV series set in India... Don't think it was justified lor...

 

[PikaPika33]

Y no admin answer moi?

admin will say no comment and link you back to the mod that did it
taichi

 

[LWZ]

Because firstly you’re prancing around the coconut tree. Secondly, you’re a Chinese, so mind your own business. Finally, to answer you, many spices involved. Not worth the fingering.

I prefer lemon tree.

 

[Sammiegirl00]

I prefer lemon tree.

I wonder why …..

 

[Shion]

I wonder why …..

I'm turning turning turning turning turning around...

 

[Dr.Vijay]

**** is an india agreement

The bank is losing $

He buying losing $ bank still can get so much salary

Tell me how is this racist?

Individual words and the context of use are two different things.

Aren't you actually using "****" to refer to "overseas indians", which is used in an unfavourable context than about the **** trade agreement?

If you really wanted to convey what you mean, there is no reason to use '****' in your sentence. Here I've fixed it for you ==>

"knn buy laskmi bank still can get so kuch celery"

 

[IndianChief]

Individual words and the context of use are two different things.

Aren't you actually using "****" to refer to "overseas indians", which is used in an unfavourable context than about the **** trade agreement?

If you really wanted to convey what you mean, there is no reason to use '****' in your sentence. Here I've fixed it for you ==>

"knn buy laskmi bank still can get so kuch celery"

Yes **** is used to refer to overseas Indian but there nothing unfavourable about the usage in this sentence.

=> knn buy overseas india laskmi bank still can get so kuch celery

I don't see anything wrong. its factual and nothing unsavoury. Laskmi bank is an Indian bank no? Its also factual that the acquisition has resulted in losses and lawsuits for DBS so its normal for anyone to question why the CEO paid so kuch despite the bad acquisition

 

[Dr.Vijay]

Yes **** is used to refer to overseas Indian but there nothing unfavourable about the usage in this sentence.

=> knn buy overseas india laskmi bank still can get so kuch celery

I don't see anything wrong. its factual and nothing unsavoury. Laskmi bank is an Indian bank no?

There's too much misuse of the word '****'.

It's time to stop referring to people/agreement/Indians incorrectly.

**** does not equate nor refer to overseas Indians.

Use it for what it's supposed to be used for (the agreement and what it allows) and not for the convenience of calling a certain group of people.

In this statement, there's no reason to use "****".

 

[Kumar22]

There's too much misuse of the word '****'.

It's time to stop referring to people/agreement/Indians incorrectly.

**** does not equate nor refer to overseas Indians.

Use it for what it's supposed to be used for (the agreement and what it allows) and not for the convenience of calling a certain group of people.

In this statement, there's no reason to use "****".

This I tend to agree I do find it very childish and silly that so many tend to use the term **** to refer to Indian Indians.
It's a treaty - a rubbish one IMO but it's what the Govt the people of Singapore voted in, decided to embark on. Most the blame must go with Govt not the people who will obviously take advantage of it.

Want to refer, refer as Indian Indians or Singapore Indians, what's so difficult? Even Indian Indians I tend to differentiate as FT Indians (those given SP, PR those in IT etc) and FW Indians - the Indians on WP doing chores we ourselves don't wnat to do. I tend to sympathise with the latter the former.
The former have certain boorish behaviours which I think must be called out and I certainly do if I encounter on a day to day basis. Or their cultural bias which some of them want to impose on us. All this is fair game to criticise and highlight.

But you must draw the line to refer to them as scum or some kind of sub-human species. We are not born superior to any other person. And be careful not to generalise a whole race because of the actions of some, despite the temptations.

You are entitled to your personal view or disgust, dislike even hatred. That's your choice. You want to be a racist fine, that's your right but you cannot impose or publish those views in public. This will attract the Law. And the Govt has made it clear they will be using the Law on such posts and persons.

As for me, so far nobody has called me a **** or KK or many other terms in my face. This I won't pancan, I sure will f them if it were so. But I generally dgaf about online posts. Anyway the Law is there to deal with it.

This use of **** from what i see will only get people in trouble with the authorities because most people don't think before they post.

 

[Orionz]

There's too much misuse of the word '****'.

It's time to stop referring to people/agreement/Indians incorrectly.

**** does not equate nor refer to overseas Indians.

Use it for what it's supposed to be used for (the agreement and what it allows) and not for the convenience of calling a certain group of people.

In this statement, there's no reason to use "****".

**** is the agreement that gave DBS an advantage to establish themselves in India. There is nothing wrong or racist in using this term in this context, except it being potentially politically unfavourable for the incumbent.

No group of people was targeted or incited against here. It was made to express disagreement to the undeserving bonus that DBS CEO has received.

 

[Intrinion]

Because firstly you’re prancing around the coconut tree. Secondly, you’re a Chinese, so mind your own business. Finally, to answer you, many spices involved. Not worth the fingering.

The forum will not condone such racist / discriminatory remarks. User has been t-banned.

 

[hctawsgs]

There's too much misuse of the word '****'.

It's time to stop referring to people/agreement/Indians incorrectly.

**** does not equate nor refer to overseas Indians.

Use it for what it's supposed to be used for (the agreement and what it allows) and not for the convenience of calling a certain group of people.

In this statement, there's no reason to use "****".

Hi Vijay,

If it is considered inappropriate to use **** to refer to overseas indian national in this forum, then can we assume that the following are also inappropriate and penalizable:

AT - chinese nationals
ATB - female chinese nationals
AMDK - male caucasians
AMDL - female caucasians
Ruskies - russian nationals

Await for your reply.

 

[Dr.Vijay]

Hi Vijay,

If it is considered inappropriate to use **** to refer to overseas indian national in this forum, then can we assume that the following are also inappropriate and penalizable:

AT - chinese nationals
ATB - female chinese nationals
AMDK - male caucasians
AMDL - female caucasians
Ruskies - russian nationals

Await for your reply.

No comments or limitations for these terms.

And they don't refer to something else important like the **** agreement, which unfortunately isn't positively appreciated and carries tensions enough that it is debated and clarified time after time by the government.

I hope you understand there is a difference and why we shouldn't for the sake of convenience lump foreign Indians, foreign Indians working locally as '****'. It's wrong, misguided and leads to people misusing the term and placing thoughts and emotions to the agreement unfairly on even the people.

Whatever beef one has about '****' is about government policies and hiring practices, and not the people themselves.

In short, like examples in other threads, it's not about the word or term. It's how it's being used and in what context.

 

[Hiling care]

No comments or limitations for these terms.

And they don't refer to something else important like the **** agreement, which unfortunately isn't positively appreciated and carries tensions enough that it is debated and clarified time after time by the government.

I hope you understand there is a difference and why we shouldn't for the sake of convenience lump foreign Indians, foreign Indians working locally as '****'. It's wrong, misguided and leads to people misusing the term and placing thoughts and emotions to the agreement unfairly on even the people.

Whatever beef one has about '****' is about government policies and hiring practices, and not the people themselves.

In short, like examples in other threads, it's not about the word or term. It's how it's being used and in what context.

So basically Orionz is correct?

There is nothing wrong or racist in using this term in this context, except it being potentially politically unfavourable for the incumbent.

 

[Sammiegirl00]

The forum will not condone such racist / discriminatory remarks. User has been t-banned.

@mgx-alander is a chinese, what's wrong with me asking him to mind his own biz re the coloured ppl in SG? Was it the coconut tree? Better to be prancing than climbing lest he fall and break his brittle bones. Or you're not a fan of spices? Pls don't tell me its the fingering. 12 point? Tsk tsk *refraining from smacking @Intrinion with a large trout*

@Dr.Vijay For your action pls.

Sammiegirl00 said:
Because firstly you’re prancing around the coconut tree. Secondly, you’re a Chinese, so mind your own business. Finally, to answer you, many spices involved. Not worth the fingering.

 

[IndianChief]

@mgx-alander is a chinese, what's wrong with me asking him to mind his own biz re the coloured ppl in SG? Was it the coconut tree? Better to be prancing than climbing lest he fall and break his brittle bones. Or you're not a fan of spices? Pls don't tell me its the fingering. 12 point? Tsk tsk *refraining from smacking @Intrinion with a large trout*

@Dr.Vijay For your action pls.

12 points????

 

[needsomeadvice]

Individual words and the context of use are two different things.

Aren't you actually using "****" to refer to "overseas indians", which is used in an unfavourable context than about the **** trade agreement?

If you really wanted to convey what you mean, there is no reason to use '****' in your sentence. Here I've fixed it for you ==>

"knn buy laskmi bank still can get so kuch celery"

Honestly I think the problem people have with the current style of moderation is that it is not deemed racist to talk about most races in an unfavourable context... It makes even less sense that only statements against particular races get looked into as well. I reported someone once on a post which I quote: "I find Chinese ppl like to give advice to other ppl which they never ask for". The report was rejected, not even a warning when the user called out a particular race in a negative context. Similar to this case, the point would've been made without specifying the race. If you do not think that it is clearly racist, try changing the race to a minority race and create a thread on it. I bet that will end up in the user getting points and be deemed as racist.

There is usually no punishment dealt for calling a foreigner of a certain race with a somewhat negative term except when it comes to minority races. And if that is what is defined as racist even though I strongly disagree, it is should at least be clearly stated somewhere. Also, on the topic of racism, would love if you guys if something about this (https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/search/672504/?q=white+trash&o=relevance) rather than going around banning the "negative" usage of the term **** - just to illustrate the ridiculous double standards going on here.

And once again, all I am trying to say is that the moderation is incoherent and is a huge point of frustration for everyone, especially the older users who have stuck around with you guys for decades at this point. I think most of the enthusiasm (positive or negative) come from the emotional attachment we have for this forum and really do not wish for it to die off. All in all, it does not make sense for someone to become suddenly "racist" after 14 years in EDMW in the case of TS.

 

[IndianChief]

Honestly I think the problem people have with the current style of moderation is that it is not deemed racist to talk about most races in an unfavourable context... It makes even less sense that only statements against particular races get looked into as well. I reported someone once on a post which I quote: "I find Chinese ppl like to give advice to other ppl which they never ask for". The report was rejected, not even a warning when the user called out a particular race in a negative context. Similar to this case, the point would've been made without specifying the race. If you do not think that it is clearly racist, try changing the race to a minority race and create a thread on it. I bet that will end up in the user getting points and be deemed as racist.

There is usually no punishment dealt for calling a foreigner of a certain race with a somewhat negative term except when it comes to minority races. And if that is what is defined as racist even though I strongly disagree, it is should at least be clearly stated somewhere. Also, on the topic of racism, would love if you guys if something about this (https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/search/672504/?q=white+trash&o=relevance) rather than going around banning the "negative" usage of the term **** - just to illustrate the ridiculous double standards going on here.

And once again, all I am trying to say is that the moderation is incoherent and is a huge point of frustration for everyone, especially the older users who have stuck around with you guys for decades at this point. I think most of the enthusiasm (positive or negative) come from the emotional attachment we have for this forum and really do not wish for it to die off. All in all, it does not make sense for someone to become suddenly "racist" after 14 years in EDMW in the case of TS.

I last time created a thread what is Raesah Khan doing for Deepavali also got banned immediately cause asking what she’s doing on Deepavali is racist cause she’s a Muslim. The points eventually got reversed but that was after I serve a 2 week ban and appeal.

 

[Mecisteus]

Honestly I think the problem people have with the current style of moderation is that it is not deemed racist to talk about most races in an unfavourable context... It makes even less sense that only statements against particular races get looked into as well. I reported someone once on a post which I quote: "I find Chinese ppl like to give advice to other ppl which they never ask for". The report was rejected, not even a warning when the user called out a particular race in a negative context. Similar to this case, the point would've been made without specifying the race. If you do not think that it is clearly racist, try changing the race to a minority race and create a thread on it. I bet that will end up in the user getting points and be deemed as racist.

There is usually no punishment dealt for calling a foreigner of a certain race with a somewhat negative term except when it comes to minority races. And if that is what is defined as racist even though I strongly disagree, it is should at least be clearly stated somewhere. Also, on the topic of racism, would love if you guys if something about this (https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/search/672504/?q=white+trash&o=relevance) rather than going around banning the "negative" usage of the term **** - just to illustrate the ridiculous double standards going on here.

And once again, all I am trying to say is that the moderation is incoherent and is a huge point of frustration for everyone, especially the older users who have stuck around with you guys for decades at this point. I think most of the enthusiasm (positive or negative) come from the emotional attachment we have for this forum and really do not wish for it to die off. All in all, it does not make sense for someone to become suddenly "racist" after 14 years in EDMW in the case of TS.

Let me give you my 2 cents here.

1) Moderators act base on reports by members. I guess nobody takes offence on those terms.
2) Always remember this. What may be deem NOT offensive to you is probably offensive to others.
3) You need to observe more carefully. I have seen some racist members who joined 2 decades ago.
4) For TS case, I am very sure he will not be infracted if he dropped the term knn in the statement.