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I have a fresh $15k. Thinking of putting it into foreign fixed deposit 1 year. Looking at kiwi or AUD. What's the usual spread in bank for foreign fixed deposit ?
Edit: I have checked their buying and selling rate for AUD
Buy:1.268
Sell: 1.3411
Such a huge spread. Even their 'high' interest rate could not cover such a spread. Any suggestions what should I do with $15k?
I would like to protect my principal and getting decent i/r <more than 0.8%> and time horizon is 3-5 years
 
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If you are investing SGD and you want SGD returns, better not use foreign currency FDs. They are not insured and exchange rate fluctuations, as well as bank spreads as you mention, can easily wipe out your interest and eat into your principal.

Some banks like Maybank and ICICI offer well above 0.8% pa for fixed deposits of 1-3 years. Take a look:

Enjoy up to 1.60% p.a. on our Singapore Dollar Time Deposit! > Maybank2u.com Singapore
 

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Yes go for stocks - we need more lemmings- I mean, people to invest.

It's all about the flow and not the stock for ever higher prices!
 

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Yes go for stocks - we need more lemmings- I mean, people to invest.

It's all about the flow and not the stock for ever higher prices!

I'm not interested in stocks because I don't have that risk appetite yet. Right now the money that flow into stock is as high as before 2008 crisis. And I don't know why I am not as optimistic as others to invest in stock. Maybe in the near future when I understand stock better then I would invest in one
 
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Just came back from opening a OCBC acct

Higher-Interest Deposit Account | Bonus+ Deposit Account | OCBC

0.87 3 mths principal protected, no fall below fee, no need for monthly top up. closure aft 6mths no fee, else $30 better then some fixed D in my opinion.. where you have to be tied for 1 year although 0.87 is peanuts compared to unit trust etc but till i know the products and my stuff i think i'll put in bonus+ and hang around first..
 

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Hi..
Use cash or cheque to deposit?
So i got 15k..
How much mthly intrest earn?
Lock down period for 1 year?
If i were to deposit every mth $600..
15.6k following mth earn more intrest or calculate base on the 15k initially deposit?
Thx noob here in finance
 

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Just came back from opening a OCBC acct

Higher-Interest Deposit Account | Bonus+ Deposit Account | OCBC

0.87 3 mths principal protected, no fall below fee, no need for monthly top up. closure aft 6mths no fee, else $30 better then some fixed D in my opinion.. where you have to be tied for 1 year although 0.87 is peanuts compared to unit trust etc but till i know the products and my stuff i think i'll put in bonus+ and hang around first..
Cimb star savers is 0.8% p/a I think it gives more flexibility
 

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I'm not interested in stocks because I don't have that risk appetite yet. Right now the money that flow into stock is as high as before 2008 crisis. And I don't know why I am not as optimistic as others to invest in stock. Maybe in the near future when I understand stock better then I would invest in one

Don't worry - sooner or later most people become handcuffed volunteers.
 

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I'm not interested in stocks because I don't have that risk appetite yet. Right now the money that flow into stock is as high as before 2008 crisis. And I don't know why I am not as optimistic as others to invest in stock. Maybe in the near future when I understand stock better then I would invest in one

In that case, instead of stocks, can try put some cash in "Phillip Money Market fund". MMF are a class of very low volatility investment that usually (i think) pay out more than most bank interest, traditionally one of the safest investment becaused they are designed to have no losses in all good and bad economies, just that the capital is not insured like bank deposits.

Another 'slight higher risk' alternative is to invest part of the cash in "bond funds", which are typically lower volatility than stocks funds (lower volatlity means lower potential losses). Bond funds can lose money also, just that they 'typically' lose lesser than stocks (but there are exceptions), so key thing is to select a suitable bond fund that will mostly make money to ensure at end of 5 year, you get positive returns.

So you may consider this bond fund called "LionGlobal Singapore Fixed Income Investment Class A" - it has positive profits around 2006 till 212, even in 2008 and 2011 stock market downturns. it has much lower potential losses than stocks (potential losses withing the year is usually around 1~3%, roughly estimated). Good thing i like about this bond fund is that it contains near 50% singapore govt bonds which are quite good performing during economic crisis, and rest are in singapore corporate bonds which perform better during good economic times. avoid high yield bonds and junk bonds funds that do poorly in crisis. Avoid bank structured deposits that do not have 'black and white' saying 'capital gauranteed' also.

If interested in above can consider contact phillip investor centre which provide zero sales charge for both these unit trust. currently i not vested in both these 2 but will be vested in very near term. I not related to phillip or these two funds otherwise.

If not comforatble with above unfamiliar instruments, can consider 3k in Lionglobal SFII fund, 5k in Phillip MMF, rest 7k in fixed deposit/bank savings. Diversify your investment risks, while at same time get to experience some investing first hand.

Last butnot least, past performance is not gaurantee of future performance, and above is just my personal opinion, not specific financial advice to you :)
 
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In that case, instead of stocks, can try put some cash in "Phillip Money Market fund". MMF are a class of very low volatility investment that usually (i think) pay out more than most bank interest, traditionally one of the safest investment becaused they are designed to have no losses in all good and bad economies, just that the capital is not insured like bank deposits.

Another 'slight higher risk' alternative is to invest part of the cash in "bond funds", which are typically lower volatility than stocks funds (lower volatlity means lower potential losses). Bond funds can lose money also, just that they 'typically' lose lesser than stocks (but there are exceptions), so key thing is to select a suitable bond fund that will mostly make money to ensure at end of 5 year, you get positive returns.

So you may consider this bond fund called "LionGlobal Singapore Fixed Income Investment Class A" - it has positive profits around 2006 till 212, even in 2008 and 2011 stock market downturns. it has much lower potential losses than stocks (potential losses withing the year is usually around 1~3%, roughly estimated). Good thing i like about this bond fund is that it contains near 50% singapore govt bonds which are quite good performing during economic crisis, and rest are in singapore corporate bonds which perform better during good economic times. avoid high yield bonds and junk bonds funds that do poorly in crisis.

If interested in above can consider contact phillip investor centre which provide zero sales charge for both these unit trust. currently i not vested in both these 2 but will be vested in very near term. I not related to phillip or these two funds otherwise.

If not comforatble with above unfamiliar instruments, can consider 3k in Lionglobal fund, 5k in MMF, rest 7k in fixed deposit/bank savings. Diversify your investment risks, while at same time get to experience some investing first hand.

Sounds interesting but then if the return is 1 - 3% won't endowment be even better? i was looking at Tokio marine they have the Nest Egg LP i think its almost 4%... somemore if i am not mistaken it is under PPS therefore the principal guaranteed amt is safe.. but i'm not an agent so won't know exactly whats what.. i just started
 
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Cimb star savers is 0.8% p/a I think it gives more flexibility

Yea i was considering btwn Star savers and bonus plus actually but then CIMB.. dunno leh lack of branches every mth need a min sum of 500(for current) etc.. quite lehche.. anyway i dun intend to take out the $ one and every month plan to put in 2.5k(unless i buy products) so ocbc extra 0.07% more and branch 1 road away only..more conv.. until a better depo acct comes up.. then i jump
 

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In that case, instead of stocks, can try put some cash in "Phillip Money Market fund". MMF are a class of very low volatility investment that usually (i think) pay out more than most bank interest, traditionally one of the safest investment becaused they are designed to have no losses in all good and bad economies, just that the capital is not insured like bank deposits.

Another 'slight higher risk' alternative is to invest part of the cash in "bond funds", which are typically lower volatility than stocks funds (lower volatlity means lower potential losses). Bond funds can lose money also, just that they 'typically' lose lesser than stocks (but there are exceptions), so key thing is to select a suitable bond fund that will mostly make money to ensure at end of 5 year, you get positive returns.

So you may consider this bond fund called "LionGlobal Singapore Fixed Income Investment Class A" - it has positive profits around 2006 till 212, even in 2008 and 2011 stock market downturns. it has much lower potential losses than stocks (potential losses withing the year is usually around 1~3%, roughly estimated). Good thing i like about this bond fund is that it contains near 50% singapore govt bonds which are quite good performing during economic crisis, and rest are in singapore corporate bonds which perform better during good economic times. avoid high yield bonds and junk bonds funds that do poorly in crisis.

If interested in above can consider contact phillip investor centre which provide zero sales charge for both these unit trust. currently i not vested in both these 2 but will be vested in very near term. I not related to phillip or these two funds otherwise.

If not comforatble with above unfamiliar instruments, can consider 3k in Lionglobal fund, 5k in MMF, rest 7k in fixed deposit/bank savings. Diversify your investment risks, while at same time get to experience some investing first hand.

all these fund need to go to bank through some agent do one or can do it ourselves? whats the difference ah? need pay commission isit? i'm confused with these funds and unit trust and read the moneysense.gov.sg that one made it worse.. too much info too noob
 

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Sounds interesting but then if the return is 1 - 3% won't endowment be even better? i was looking at Tokio marine they have the Nest Egg LP i think its almost 4%... somemore if i am not mistaken it is under PPS therefore the principal guaranteed amt is safe.. but i'm not an agent so won't know exactly whats what.. i just started
That particular bond fund is rougly estimated potential 'loss' of -1% to -3%, non gauranteed. Returns is 2% to 5% non gauranteed also. There is flexibility to draw fund when you need without penalty (unless there is loss) and no tied in period. To invest in endowment (with huge penalty for early termination) or unit trust bond fund is up to you to decide based in informed choice. Or, you can just do both at same time :) dont have all eggs in one basket.

all these fund need to go to bank through some agent do one or can do it ourselves? whats the difference ah? need pay commission isit? i'm confused with these funds and unit trust and read the moneysense.gov.sg that one made it worse.. too much info too noob
You can go thru most banks to buy yourself but need pay banks high commission (a.k.a initial sales charge) up to 5%. Better you go to Phillip investor center to open account to buy these unit trust yourself as Phillip current has zero commission charge for both fund, and 'seems' to be up to 0.75% commission for rest of funds. You can visit phillips investor center and banks to ask about their charges for thest 2 funds and collect information personally, no need sign up for anything yet.
 
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