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Our CPF World has changed from 2025! :love:

If you have max your MA at BHS and RA (FRS), whatever you voluntary contribute will all go to OA, if you have the limits (max 37740 with no mandatory employment income) :LOL:

( I topup $20 to OA every week to get $3 cashback! :love:)
How to get the $3 cashback? :) lolx
 

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Given the interest rates are falling, it's. Possible to do self topup to cpf oa for 2.5% interest, after 55?
Make sure you have FRS and BHS, then any contributions, within the annual limit, to CPF including gov handouts will automatically go into your OA.
 

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Hi all. I will be 60 in Jul 2026. I currently have $507,504 in CPF RA. If I continue to top up ERS to maximum every year until 65 years old, approximately how much monthly CPF life payout will I receive starting 65 years old? I prefer payout tyo start at 65 and not 70. I don't know how to put this into CPF life calculator. Thank you.
 
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I will be 60 in Jul 2026. I currently have $507,504 in CPF ERS.
I think you mean you currently have $507,504 in your CPF Retirement Account, and you have boosted your RA to the 2026 Enhanced Retirement Sum (ERS).
If I continue to top up ERS to maximum every year until 65 years old, approximately how much monthly CPF life payout will I receive starting 65 years old?
We don’t really know. The ERS figures haven’t been announced yet beyond 2027. All we know to this point is that the 2027 ERS will be $15,600 higher than the 2026 ERS. That’s an increase of about 3.54%.

You could perhaps assume 3.5% annual increases in the ERS, 4.0% RA interest, and bonus interest ($900 per year) to arrive at an estimated mid-2031 RA balance. Then use the CPF LIFE Monthly Payout Estimator based on your estimated future RA balance. The Estimator should let you plug in a future RA balance and adjust dates.
I prefer payout tyo start at 65 and not 70.
You can do that, but it’s a fairly odd thing to do when you’re happily pushing more money into RA every year. Often people who can afford to keep their RA boosted every year to the new ERS defer their CPF LIFE payouts to the default starting age (age 70). That’s because they’re making these RA deposits precisely because their non-CPF RA savings/investment options are comparatively less attractive, and so it makes sense to draw down those less productive resources first for their day-to-day living expenses for the half decade period (60 months) from age 65 to 70. (Or they’re still working.) This logic assumes that depositing funds in RA past age 65 is easily affordable from other resources.

My household fortunately happens to be in this situation. One spouse is 55+, the other is getting there. The 55+ spouse boosts RA to the new ERS every year, and the younger spouse is gearing up to do the same. We find this option comparatively attractive. Since we don’t expect CPF RA to stop being comparatively attractive, we want that deal to continue as long as possible. That means accepting the default CPF LIFE payout age (age 70) — and enjoying the full 5 years of additional compounded interest on larger balances. If we consider RA to be a good deal (we do), of course we’ll accept as much of that good deal as allowed. Metaphorically, if someone is offering you 3 free iPhones, you might as well accept all 3 instead of only 2. You can always give away the 3rd iPhone (to charity for example).

….But it’s up to you! YMMV.
 

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I think you mean you currently have $507,504 in your CPF Retirement Account, and you have boosted your RA to the 2026 Enhanced Retirement Sum (ERS).

We don’t really know. The ERS figures haven’t been announced yet beyond 2027. All we know to this point is that the 2027 ERS will be $15,600 higher than the 2026 ERS. That’s an increase of about 3.54%.

You could perhaps assume 3.5% annual increases in the ERS, 4.0% RA interest, and bonus interest ($900 per year) to arrive at an estimated mid-2031 RA balance. Then use the CPF LIFE Monthly Payout Estimator based on your estimated future RA balance. The Estimator should let you plug in a future RA balance and adjust dates.

You can do that, but it’s a fairly odd thing to do when you’re happily pushing more money into RA every year. Often people who can afford to keep their RA boosted every year to the new ERS defer their CPF LIFE payouts to the default starting age (age 70). That’s because they’re making these RA deposits precisely because their non-CPF RA savings/investment options are comparatively less attractive, and so it makes sense to draw down those less productive resources first for their day-to-day living expenses for the half decade period (60 months) from age 65 to 70. (Or they’re still working.) This logic assumes that depositing funds in RA past age 65 is easily affordable from other resources.

My household fortunately happens to be in this situation. One spouse is 55+, the other is getting there. The 55+ spouse boosts RA to the new ERS every year, and the younger spouse is gearing up to do the same. We find this option comparatively attractive. Since we don’t expect CPF RA to stop being comparatively attractive, we want that deal to continue as long as possible. That means accepting the default CPF LIFE payout age (age 70) — and enjoying the full 5 years of additional compounded interest on larger balances. If we consider RA to be a good deal (we do), of course we’ll accept as much of that good deal as allowed. Metaphorically, if someone is offering you 3 free iPhones, you might as well accept all 3 instead of only 2. You can always give away the 3rd iPhone (to charity for example).

….But it’s up to you! YMMV.
Thank you for your detailed reply. Yes I meant CPF RA and I have amended it. I just wanted to find a approximate figure. From Google Gemini it is estimated between $4050 - $4350 for standard plan.
 

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Thank you for your detailed reply. Yes I meant CPF RA and I have amended it. I just wanted to find a approximate figure. From Google Gemini it is estimated between $4050 - $4350 for standard plan.
The Google Gemini estimates appear to be too high to me.
A better way to estimate is to use the CPF Life Estimator as explained by BBCWatcher. The way to tweak the Estimator for top ups is to change the "I would like to join CPF Life" amount.

Using your numbers, I set year of birth to 1966, and entered current RA at $507,504, assumed Male, Standard plan, here are the numbers I get:
(Note that it shows $610k as the "default" - this is the value your $507k grows to at 4% + bonus interest ($900 per year). If you want to estimate further top ups, this is the number to tweak)

No further top-ups: $3,240 (join at $610k)
Estimate $15k top up each year: $3,710 (join at $700k)

The join at amount is your estimate. In order to achieve $4K, it would need to be more than $800k, which doesn't seem likely, so be careful with trusting your AI estimate.
 

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The Google Gemini estimates appear to be too high to me.
A better way to estimate is to use the CPF Life Estimator as explained by BBCWatcher. The way to tweak the Estimator for top ups is to change the "I would like to join CPF Life" amount.

Using your numbers, I set year of birth to 1966, and entered current RA at $507,504, assumed Male, Standard plan, here are the numbers I get:
(Note that it shows $610k as the "default" - this is the value your $507k grows to at 4% + bonus interest ($900 per year). If you want to estimate further top ups, this is the number to tweak)

No further top-ups: $3,240 (join at $610k)
Estimate $15k top up each year: $3,710 (join at $700k)

The join at amount is your estimate. In order to achieve $4K, it would need to be more than $800k, which doesn't seem likely, so be careful with trusting your AI estimate.
Yes, you are right. Thank you very much.
 
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