Advice Needed: NUS Biz VS UCL IMB

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Hi folks, I have an offer from both NUS biz and UCL Information Management for Business. From a career perspective, which do you think is a better option? I am leaning towards UCL at the moment. Does it create a better branding for a future job candidate? I am a Business Diploma Holder.
 

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money no issue ?

on mummy daddy scholarship ?

go UCL ba ~ get some international exposure

if u manage to get a job in UK, u get some international experience, come back SG, might look good on your CV.
 

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Firm offer for UCL for 2019 entry. I have no plans yet on where I want to work. Probably anywhere which gives me a good offer.

I meant UCL offer exemptions (advance standing), if time at UCL is longer than local that maybe a factor.

UCL gives u proximity to Jobs in uk. U should check UCL alumni to gain some insight
https://m.facebook.com/groups/uclas/?ref=group_header&view=group

If not those current students there can share their perspectives
http://studentsunionucl.org/clubs-societies/singapore-society
 

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money no issue ?

on mummy daddy scholarship ?

go UCL ba ~ get some international exposure

if u manage to get a job in UK, u get some international experience, come back SG, might look good on your CV.

My dilemma now is that I am not sure if the significantly greater cost of education is worth it. Would the benefits reap from a career perspective outweight it? Even if I am supported for the 3 years I have to make sure its worth the cash.
 

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My dilemma now is that I am not sure if the significantly greater cost of education is worth it. Would the benefits reap from a career perspective outweight it? Even if I am supported for the 3 years I have to make sure its worth the cash.

what is worth to you?

truth is, nobody can tell u how 'much' a degree will be worth to you, because life happens. imo, if your parents can afford to support u for ur degree without breaking a sweat, then its really something serious to consider.

if your parents need to sell an arm, leg and a liver to put u through 3 years of education in UK, than maybe it would be wise to consider NUS. do well in NUS, and you can look towards going overseas for your MBA even.

btw - it might be early, but what's your end goal career wise ?
 

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what is worth to you?

truth is, nobody can tell u how 'much' a degree will be worth to you, because life happens. imo, if your parents can afford to support u for ur degree without breaking a sweat, then its really something serious to consider.

if your parents need to sell an arm, leg and a liver to put u through 3 years of education in UK, than maybe it would be wise to consider NUS. do well in NUS, and you can look towards going overseas for your MBA even.

btw - it might be early, but what's your end goal career wise ?

I have no career end goal at this point in time. I am trying to determine whether going to UCL would open more doors over NUS for me in my early career.
 

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Hi folks, I have an offer from both NUS biz and UCL Information Management for Business. From a career perspective, which do you think is a better option? I am leaning towards UCL at the moment. Does it create a better branding for a future job candidate? I am a Business Diploma Holder.

Hi, I suggest you first decide if you are interested in the Technology sector first as UCL IMB basically already chooses the main modules for you already with only one elective option. This is unlike NUS Biz where you can have the flexibility to choose your own modules. Seeing that you have no career end goal as of yet, I suggest you start thinking about this before deciding as you are limiting yourself in a sector.

As for whether UCL creates a better branding than NUS, I think this is something that everyone will forever be debating about so I don't really see a point in you asking such a general question unless you just want to assure yourself that going with UCL is the right choice.

If you are asking whether UCL creates a better branding/ open more doors in specific sectors (Say prestige sectors like Investment Banking/Consultancy), the answer is yes. However, that does not mean that it is easy to get in (You will be competing with thousands of others through several rounds of interviews). It just means that you have many more opportunities and networking connections in UCL for those sectors compared to NUS. The rationale is because UCL is one of the targeted Unis for those sectors and have employees going down frequently to actively recruit. The market of those sectors is way bigger as compared to Singapore. First years undergraduates of targeted Unis are already getting spring insights to IBDs and MBBs with a fast track to Summer Internships.

So as for you with no general direction (In the sense of sector or goal) as of now, it is kind of impossible to answer whether spending 200,000-250,000SGD is justifiable as compared to studying in NUS.
 
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Hi, I suggest you first decide if you are interested in the Technology sector first as UCL IMB basically already chooses the main modules for you already with only one elective option. This is unlike NUS Biz where you can have the flexibility to choose your own modules. Seeing that you have no career end goal as of yet, I suggest you start thinking about this before deciding as you are limiting yourself in a sector.

As for whether UCL creates a better branding than NUS, I think this is something that everyone will forever be debating about so I don't really see a point in you asking such a general question unless you just want to assure yourself that going with UCL is the right choice.

If you are asking whether UCL creates a better branding/ open more doors in specific sectors (Say prestige sectors like Investment Banking/Consultancy), the answer is yes. However, that does not mean that it is easy to get in (You will be competing with thousands of others through several rounds of interviews). It just means that you have many more opportunities and networking connections in UCL for those sectors compared to NUS. The rationale is because UCL is one of the targeted Unis for those sectors and have employees going down frequently to actively recruit. The market of those sectors is way bigger as compared to Singapore. First years undergraduates of targeted Unis are already getting spring insights to IBDs and MBBs with a fast track to Summer Internships.

So as for you with no general direction (In the sense of sector or goal) as of now, it is kind of impossible to answer whether spending 200,000-250,000SGD is justifiable as compared to studying in NUS.



Technology sector is certainly something I would be interested in. While UCL IMB is a course designed to prepare me for the technology sector, I believe I will not be limited to it. As much as I would like to be in the consulting sector, I have to be realistic about the probability of me entering MBBs.

Thank you for the opinion on this matter.
 

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Technology sector is certainly something I would be interested in. While UCL IMB is a course designed to prepare me for the technology sector, I believe I will not be limited to it. As much as I would like to be in the consulting sector, I have to be realistic about the probability of me entering MBBs.

Thank you for the opinion on this matter.
May I ask is UCL IMB course recognised worldwide as a premium even to get admitted ?
 

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Technology sector is certainly something I would be interested in. While UCL IMB is a course designed to prepare me for the technology sector, I believe I will not be limited to it. As much as I would like to be in the consulting sector, I have to be realistic about the probability of me entering MBBs.

Thank you for the opinion on this matter.

You will be limited in the sense of being more in the technological side. From your course module information, you can see the type of jobs graduates recently got into are Technical Analyst, Software Engineer etc. (See UCL undergrad prospectus for IMB)

As for you wanting to be in consulting sector, you won't really need to just limit your range to MBBs. There's other tier companies like Accenture, AT Kearney, Oliver Wyman, IBM and Big4 which goes down to schools to recruit.
 
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May I ask is UCL IMB course recognised worldwide as a premium even to get admitted ?

I believe its pretty easy to enter as UCL’s School of Management is pretty new. Its good for polytechnic students who do not have A level Math background which Management Science regected me for. Sg local Universities are increasing their poly intake and therefore making them less competitive as well.
 

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Technology sector is certainly something I would be interested in. While UCL IMB is a course designed to prepare me for the technology sector, I believe I will not be limited to it. As much as I would like to be in the consulting sector, I have to be realistic about the probability of me entering MBBs.

Thank you for the opinion on this matter.

These days Consultancy sector is really an expensive form of contract worker.
I have ppl from Deloitte for the kinda rates we pay they not competent just well dress ppl. Guys all in nice dress suits
 

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Hi, I suggest you first decide if you are interested in the Technology sector first as UCL IMB basically already chooses the main modules for you already with only one elective option. This is unlike NUS Biz where you can have the flexibility to choose your own modules. Seeing that you have no career end goal as of yet, I suggest you start thinking about this before deciding as you are limiting yourself in a sector.

As for whether UCL creates a better branding than NUS, I think this is something that everyone will forever be debating about so I don't really see a point in you asking such a general question unless you just want to assure yourself that going with UCL is the right choice.

If you are asking whether UCL creates a better branding/ open more doors in specific sectors (Say prestige sectors like Investment Banking/Consultancy), the answer is yes. However, that does not mean that it is easy to get in (You will be competing with thousands of others through several rounds of interviews). It just means that you have many more opportunities and networking connections in UCL for those sectors compared to NUS. The rationale is because UCL is one of the targeted Unis for those sectors and have employees going down frequently to actively recruit. The market of those sectors is way bigger as compared to Singapore. First years undergraduates of targeted Unis are already getting spring insights to IBDs and MBBs with a fast track to Summer Internships.

So as for you with no general direction (In the sense of sector or goal) as of now, it is kind of impossible to answer whether spending 200,000-250,000SGD is justifiable as compared to studying in NUS.


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it impossible to quantify or justify if spending that additional $ is worth it.
You got to ask yourself if that amount of $ dispensable in your family? If it is, then as what @relaxingforfinal have mention, you have to decide what you would like to do in your career as the structure of both degree is quite different. Personally, I would go for UCL, primarily for the experience and the opportunity to work in UK.
If $ does matter (i.e your parents have to take a loan or something), then I don't think UCL or any university in UK (with the exception of OxBridge) will be "worth" the extra >150k SGD, personal opinion again. Regardless of IB or consultancy, a degree from NUS is more than sufficient to get you pass the first stage of application. On a side note, if you really want to work in UK, you could go to NUS, do well, then apply for Masters in the UK again (this time round, you could even enter Oxbridge :) ). Masters in UK cost between 20-30k GBP and they are mostly 1 year (if you don't do research), so the total cost of that might be around the same as doing a UK bachelor degree.
 

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2018-3019 fees at Oxford ~ÂŁ19k and there is a college fee if ÂŁ3k
2019-2020 is £23k, college fee didn’t show not sure if it’s gone or TBD
3-4 yrs from now don’t think fees still around £20-30k
Living expenses needs to be adjusted for inflation seem like ÂŁ1k up a year.
Now est at ÂŁ13-19k

Please forecast and not budge base on today cost
 
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yea my bad for over-simplifying things. Definitely, if you have narrowed down to just UCL Bachelors vs NUS bachelor + UK Masters, then inflation on everything should be taken into account if you want to do a NPV analysis of UK bachelors vs NUS bachelors + UK Masters. Feel free to pm if you want some estimation of monthly accommodation + living expenses in the London.
 

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As for me, have some offers from UK unis but in the process of applying for their uni scholarships (partial reduction of fees). If I get it, most probably I would go. Poly kid can go NUS means you're quite good, why never consider scholarships?
The rest of my fees would then be paid by my savings and mostly a bank loan. This is because I have no plans to get married and/or have kids in the next 10 years or so. And would prefer to work in the UK for some time as exposure, to climb the ladder. I would advise you to make the decision based on the life choices you would make & the life you want after your degree.
 

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As for me, have some offers from UK unis but in the process of applying for their uni scholarships (partial reduction of fees). If I get it, most probably I would go. Poly kid can go NUS means you're quite good, why never consider scholarships?
The rest of my fees would then be paid by my savings and mostly a bank loan. This is because I have no plans to get married and/or have kids in the next 10 years or so. And would prefer to work in the UK for some time as exposure, to climb the ladder. I would advise you to make the decision based on the life choices you would make & the life you want after your degree.

I applied for two scholarships, was asked to do online/video interview for one but did not proceed to the second round. While working in the UK is a plausible, I doubt I would ever settle down there.
 
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