Asus setup for 2 storey maisonette

[kimura]

Hi, I have the following asus products and hope to use any of them to maximize the wifi coverage of my 2 storey maisonette

2 x Asus Zenwifi AX mini
2 x Asus Zenwifi AX XT8
1 x Asus AX3000 router

My modem is in master bedroom in level 2. Bedroom 3 (at level 2) and living room (at level 1) has wired back haul but guest bedroom (at level 1) does not have wired back haul.

What setup do you recommend for maximum coverage in bedroom 3 (with PC and wireless device use), living room (with router NAS, TV, PS4 and desktop media center) and guest bedroom?

Was thinking of the following setup but wasn’t sure if it’s redundant or overkill.

Level 2
Master bedroom = Modem – > AX XT8 (main router)
Bedroom 3 = wired -> AX mini (AP)

Level 1
Living room = wired -> AX 3000 (AP) -> NAS + media center + TV + PS4

Guest bedroom = wireless -> AX XT8 (AP)

appreciate any expert advice pls.

 

[hairymonster]

I would swap level 1 ax3000 with level 2 xt8.

Reason: minimise the distance between the 2 xt8. Your xt8 will den have to be configured as AP Aimesh.

 

[rAcEr]

5 AX mesh nodes / routers sounds like a lot to cover a 2 storey maisonette to be honest. Perhaps a floor plan will help?

 

[athenodorus]

a pair of xt8 is able to cover 80% my maisonette. The only area I had signal issue is the 2nd floor common toilet.

 

[kimura]

a pair of xt8 is able to cover 80% my maisonette. The only area I had signal issue is the 2nd floor common toilet.

Where did you place your XT8? I had poor signals in the guest bedroom and bedroom 3 if I only use two. Furthermore bedroom 1 has desktop pc so hope to use both wired as wireless for streaming.

 

[kimura]

I would swap level 1 ax3000 with level 2 xt8.

Reason: minimise the distance between the 2 xt8. Your xt8 will den have to be configured as AP Aimesh.

If that’s the case I would need a switch cos the 3 Lan ports in XT8 is not enough to cater to 4 wired devices in the living room?

 

[magix]

Where did you place your XT8? I had poor signals in the guest bedroom and bedroom 1 if I only use two. Furthermore bedroom 1 has desktop pc so hope to use both wired as wireless for streaming.

Did you verify that the xt8 backhaul is on wire or wireless.

 

[kimura]

5 AX mesh nodes / routers sounds like a lot to cover a 2 storey maisonette to be honest. Perhaps a floor plan will help?

A similar floor plan.
https://st.hzcdn.com/simgs/3f613eae09e406b6_4-6151/home-design.jpg

 

[kimura]

Did you verify that the xt8 backhaul is on wire or wireless.

If I’m using XT8 in living room as advised here, it will be wired backhaul. Cos it is wired from master bedroom to living room.

 

[magix]

If I’m using XT8 in living room as advised here, it will be wired backhaul. Cos it is wired from master bedroom to living room.

you can try that.

Sometimes too many mesh ap your device might be connecting to a mesh ap far away instead of the nearest ap.

which may also affect the performance. suggest you add in more mesh node slowly (fine tune)

 

[kimura]

you can try that.

Sometimes too many mesh ap your device might be connecting to a mesh ap far away instead of the nearest ap.

which may also affect the performance. suggest you add in more mesh node slowly (fine tune)

How would you suggest fine tuning my proposed setup above.

 

[athenodorus]

Where did you place your XT8? I had poor signals in the guest bedroom and bedroom 3 if I only use two. Furthermore bedroom 1 has desktop pc so hope to use both wired as wireless for streaming.

1 at 1st floor living room, 1 at 2nd bedroom near nearer the stairs (sometimes I shift it to the 2nd floor corridor).

 

[kimura]

1 at 1st floor living room, 1 at 2nd bedroom near nearer the stairs (sometimes I shift it to the 2nd floor corridor).

Where’s your modem? At living room I believe? U can get signal for your study room near the main door entrance?

my modem is at the master bedroom.

 

[athenodorus]

Where’s your modem? At living room I believe? U can get signal for your study room near the main door entrance?

my modem is at the master bedroom.

U r the 2nd person in the forum section I saw with the ont/fiber point on 2nd floor. Not sure why. Mine by default was at 1st floor living room. Yep good strength wireless backhaul. I can choose to do wired backhaul too as I have a lan point in the room.

 

[magix]

How would you suggest fine tuning my proposed setup above.

Deploy your XT8 between Master Bedroom and Place another unit in living room (using wired back haul).
Test if you get enough WIFI coverage with 2 unit of XT8.


if the location has weak wifi than add in your AX3000 or Asus Zenwifi AX mini.


I check on Asus website.



AX3000:

802.11ax (2.4GHz) : up to 574 Mbps
802.11ax (5GHz) : up to 2402 Mbps


Asus Zenwifi AX mini:

WiFi 5 (802.11ac) (1024QAM) : up to 4808 Mbps
WiFi 6 (802.11ax) (5GHz) : up to 433 Mbps



AX3000 has higher AX speed. Not sure why AX mini only up to 433 Mbps

If you do not have a lot WIFI 6 (AX) device than nothing to worry about. Otherwise I use AX mini as a backup since it has slower AX wifi speed.

 

[kimura]

Looks ok to me, as you have wired connection to living and bedroom 3, the ax mini in bedroom 3 and the ax3000 in living should be configure as mesh node so that mesh roaming should not be an issue in level 1 or 2, but may need to finetune the roaming assisant if got problem. If configure as AP, you may find it troublesome to switch ssid. You can configure them as AP but with same ssid as master bedroom xt8, and see whether got issue roaming or not.

as for the guest room, I would use the other ax mini for wireless backhaul to either living or bedroom 3, since it is only for use in that room, you can change the preferred backhaul (5G first) and uplink (living or bedroom 3) when configure as mesh node, under management.

I would keep the more expensive xt8 as spare.

So you feel using the XT8 as a main router is a better choice than AX3000?

 

[kimura]

Deploy your XT8 between Master Bedroom and Place another unit in living room (using wired back haul).
Test if you get enough WIFI coverage with 2 unit of XT8.


if the location has weak wifi than add in your AX3000 or Asus Zenwifi AX mini.


I check on Asus website.



AX3000:

802.11ax (2.4GHz) : up to 574 Mbps
802.11ax (5GHz) : up to 2402 Mbps


Asus Zenwifi AX mini:

WiFi 5 (802.11ac) (1024QAM) : up to 4808 Mbps
WiFi 6 (802.11ax) (5GHz) : up to 433 Mbps



AX3000 has higher AX speed. Not sure why AX mini only up to 433 Mbps

If you do not have a lot WIFI 6 (AX) device than nothing to worry about. Otherwise I use AX mini as a backup since it has slower AX wifi speed.

In your case, you are suggesting to use 2 units of XT8 - one as main router in the master bedroom and one in living room. If signal is poor, (I believe in study room) I will add a ax3000. Currently using ax3000 in living room but not sure why can’t detect in study room.

 

[rAcEr]

Asus website for ax mini specs are wrong. Ax mini is AX1800 means should be able to do 1201mbps at 5ghz

 

[xiaofan]

Asus website for ax mini specs are wrong. Ax mini is AX1800 means should be able to do 1201mbps at 5ghz

https://www.asus.com/Networking-IoT...Fi-Systems/ASUS-ZenWiFi-AX-Mini-XD4/techspec/
Indeed the website is messy.

Correct here: AX1800 ultimate AX performance : 1201 Mbps+ 574 Mbps

The following specs are messy in the above Asus website:
WiFi 5 (802.11ac) : up to 433 Mbps --> should be 866Mbps (256 QAM, 80MHz channel)
WiFi 5 (802.11ac) (1024QAM) : up to 4808 Mbps --> should be 1083 Mbps if indeed 1024 QAM is supported (1024 QAM is not standard for 802.11ac)
WiFi 6 (802.11ax) (5GHz) : up to 433 Mbps --> should be 1201 Mbps (1024 QAM 80MHz channel)

 

[xiaofan]

https://www.asus.com/Networking-IoT...nWiFi-WiFi-Systems/ASUS-ZenWiFi-XD6/techspec/
The spec is correct but need some explanation.

Correct here: AX5400 ultimate AX performance : 574+4804 Mbps
802.11ac (1024QAM) : up to 4333 Mbps --> 4*4 AC 1024 QAM 160MHz channel
WiFi 5 (802.11ac) (1024QAM) : up to 4808 Mbps --> 4*4 AX 1024 QAM 160MHz channel