Battle of the 10Gbps - ST, SI, M1, VQ

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Don't we just love competition ?
(From Straits Times article dated 9th Mar)

"ViewQwest has joined the 10Gbps fibre bandwagon with a premium plan that costs $218 a month under a two-year contract.

The Internet service provider (ISP) launched Singapore's first 2Gbps home fibre plan in March last year, but is having to play catch-up this time. Its announcement makes it the fourth ISP, after Singtel, SuperInternet and M1, to launch such high-speed fibre broadband plans for residential users.

These high-speed fibre plans let home users enjoy bandwidth-heavy applications such as the streaming of ultra-high-definition or 4K videos to multiple devices without lag.

The 10Gbps plans from Singtel and M1 cost $189 a month with a two-year contract. SuperInternet's plan is $199 for a one-year contract.

In addition to the monthly subscription, those who subscribe to the new ViewQwest Black 10Gbps plan will have to pay $1,500 for a high-end router that supports the 10Gbps connection. Singtel bundles the necessary equipment, including two routers, in its monthly fee.

To differentiate from its competitors, ViewQwest has partnered with local PC builder Aftershock PC to build desktop PCs capable of supporting 10Gbps speeds.

Subscribers will have the option to buy these custom Aftershock Boost PCs at a $200 discount and do not need to go through the hassle of building a compatible computer by themselves.

Mr Vignesa Moorthy, chief executive of ViewQwest, said: "We aim to go beyond to provide a hassle-free end-to-end experience for our customers - from sign-up to after-sales support ."

These computers, which start at $3,000, connect via Ethernet cable because devices supporting 10Gbps speeds over Wi-Fi are not yet available in the market.

Like SuperInternet, ViewQwest's 10Gbps fibre plan claims to provide up to 10Gbps speeds for both downloads and uploads.

Singtel and M1 use a different technology, where a single 10Gbps connection may be shared by up to 128 users. The two ISPs estimate that actual speeds go up to around 8Gbps for downloads and 2Gbps for uploads.

ViewQwest Black 10Gbps users will also enjoy perks such as a dedicated 24/7 customer support phone line as well as next business day on-site support. Other freebies include a free Eubiq power adaptor tower stand worth $338, along with a home telephone line and a virtual private network service for six months.

Meanwhile, Singtel and M1 are waiving the cost of installation. Singtel's plan includes a home telephone line, 500MB of 4G mobile data and a 10 per cent discount for a mobile subscription.

M1 throws in 1GB of mobile broadband data and a three-month Internet security subscription. Subscribers will also get $100 off any handset purchase if they sign up or recontract a mobile data-bundled plan at the same time."






Here are the useful links for each of the 4 ISPs :

Singtel
https://www.singtelshop.com/10GbpsFibre/

Super Internet
http://www.super.net.sg/Resi_10ge.html

M1
https://www.m1.com.sg/personal/home-broadband/10gbps

Viewqwest
http://www.viewqwest.com/vqlp/vqblack/index.html



Looks like Super Internet is using Optical Ethernet technology whilst the other 3 are using xGPON ?
Which of the 4 will you be choosing ?
 

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A little late, but nice that you compiled it. VQ is doing MetroE while M1 and ST are doing xGPON.

What this means (quoted directly from the article you copied):
Like SuperInternet, ViewQwest's 10Gbps fibre plan claims to provide up to 10Gbps speeds for both downloads and uploads.

Singtel and M1 use a different technology, where a single 10Gbps connection may be shared by up to 128 users. The two ISPs estimate that actual speeds go up to around 8Gbps for downloads and 2Gbps for uploads.
 

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Seems like SI is saying that their OE is better than the xGPON because 1 user to 1 server (rather than 128 users to 1 server)
What about the MetroE with VQ ?
 

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Seems like SI is saying that their OE is better than the xGPON because 1 user to 1 server (rather than 128 users to 1 server)
What about the MetroE with VQ ?
Aiya, destination server also may not even have 1gbps, 10gbps is overkill. Unless you have a server farm or data center setup at home then it would be useful.
 

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Seems like SI is saying that their OE is better than the xGPON because 1 user to 1 server (rather than 128 users to 1 server)
What about the MetroE with VQ ?

Should be different technology but both is 10up and down
 

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to support 10gbps need to change all the cables no more cat 5 and 6
plus few motherboard support 10gbps except those servers which is very expensive
 

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to support 10gbps need to change all the cables no more cat 5 and 6
plus few motherboard support 10gbps except those servers which is very expensive
True. Can feedback to manufacturers to get them to consider producing such motherboard and off the self desktop computer etc that support 10Gbps. May be another 5 to 15 yrs it may be commonly in use.
 
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Note that the NIC in your link has no SFP modules included.

SFP+ direct attach cables and optics are pretty cheap. FS.com or you can get MikroTik DA cables from Alagas locally.

Intel cards aren't choosy with Direct attach cables but for optics, FS.com should be notified to program the EEPROM to match Intel’s ID.

SFP+ has really come down in price, throw away trays of them at work sometimes for being out of spec
 

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Honestly it is still not the best time to go into 10Gbps for home user and battle between isp has yet to start. When isp start a price battle and hardware price drop then it is good time to sign up.
 

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Honestly it is still not the best time to go into 10Gbps for home user and battle between isp has yet to start. When isp start a price battle and hardware price drop then it is good time to sign up.

please read the thread topic. you have missed the point of the thread completely.

like many people who commented that this plan is unnecessary, clearly the plan is not tailored for your usage.

unless you have something constructive to contribute please don't add noise to the discussion by posting a redundant statement simply for the sake of posting.

here we are comparing the technologies employed by the various 10G plans as well as specifics and comparative value. not about whether the average home user should go for it.
 
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