Endowment Insurance Plan

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thanks for the info guys.. i have the same intention with TS.
Tried to check from TokioMarine website, there is no such endowment plan there.

Other than guaranteed & non-guaranteed portion of money, i was thinking about company performance as well. amongst all, which one you think is the most stable/promising in future? i only know the big players like AIA, prudential, great eastern, & NTUC income.

Thks.
 

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thanks for the info guys.. i have the same intention with TS.
Tried to check from TokioMarine website, there is no such endowment plan there.

Other than guaranteed & non-guaranteed portion of money, i was thinking about company performance as well. amongst all, which one you think is the most stable/promising in future? i only know the big players like AIA, prudential, great eastern, & NTUC income.

Thks.

Basically what you should know, these companies does not give you money depending on how much they made. Its more or less fixed % no matter the economy is good or bad.
 

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No Endowment....No! No! No!

Despite knowing Endowment is "BAD" in a way, i introduced it to my friend. Monthly premium $3xx.

Because his pattern more than badminton, having a "BAD" plan is better than no plan :s13::s13:

Would you want to see him struggling his money gambling, drinking? Or do you want to see your friends struggling to pay insurance endowment plan? I chose the latter :s22:
 

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Just like to contribute that if you guys r looking into endownment plans, there are plans whereby the "guaranteed" portion is more than the total premiums paid. Do PM me if you are genuinely keen to find out more. Thanks. :)
 

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Despite knowing Endowment is "BAD" in a way, i introduced it to my friend. Monthly premium $3xx.

Because his pattern more than badminton, having a "BAD" plan is better than no plan :s13::s13:

Would you want to see him struggling his money gambling, drinking? Or do you want to see your friends struggling to pay insurance endowment plan? I chose the latter :s22:

it is true...alot of my friends say they can save on their own...

wat rubbish...
 

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Aiyo no need to make things so complicated. Ask yourself this can liao. Whats your risk profile. Risk adverse people just take savings. Risk taker people take investments products.
And for those that dont want to take any kind of risk, deposit in your bank.

However, before all these, ask yourself wether you are adequately protected or not first.

No protection, accident or cancer pop out, bye bye to all your money.

Deposit in the bank is even more risky cos lower % savings.
 

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if i'm not in a hurry to buy an endowment plan, should i just wait it out till next year? read that interest rates will or may probably go up mid next year when QE ends in the US?

anyone has any endowment plans to recommend? looking at a 10 year term plan, but pay for 5 years. was looking at tokio marine and aviva
 

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if i'm not in a hurry to buy an endowment plan, should i just wait it out till next year? read that interest rates will or may probably go up mid next year when QE ends in the US?

anyone has any endowment plans to recommend? looking at a 10 year term plan, but pay for 5 years. was looking at tokio marine and aviva

Assuming interest rates go up mid next year, what will be your action plan? Personally I feel that interest rate going upwards will not affect Endowments at all.

Unless you're thinking about investing, but it will be too late also if you're going to wait till interest rates go up before you start. Of course there will be sayings that its never too late to invest, but that is provided you have a long time horizon to stay invested. E.g 15-20yrs and above.
 

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Deposit in the bank is even more risky cos lower % savings.


You mean deposit with bank more risky than leaving premium with insurance companies?

In the last financial crisis, the government gave unlimited guarantee for deposits in banks.
 

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Despite knowing Endowment is "BAD" in a way, i introduced it to my friend. Monthly premium $3xx.

Because his pattern more than badminton, having a "BAD" plan is better than no plan :s13::s13:

Would you want to see him struggling his money gambling, drinking? Or do you want to see your friends struggling to pay insurance endowment plan? I chose the latter :s22:

That theory is flawed in the sense you are assuming that he will choose to "struggle" to pay the premium for the endowment plan. This theory conveniently ignores the scenario whereby he decides the plan is too painful and chooses to terminate/lapse it. How much money does he lose then?

If he is young and he is able to currently set aside money to pay the premiums at this point, it would also indicate he can do the same in setting aside money to invest more efficiently in a simple balanced portfolio proportionate to his age.

The silver lining in this, is that he works his money much harder and much more efficiently and also the fact that the money set aside is more liquid compared to an endowment. He can also lower the amount he invests monthly per mth if he's jobless, etc. The flexibility is there. And honestly without much work every year, the returns are going to beat the endowment returns flat out as we look at longer terms.

The fact of the matter is, it boils down to the person's commitment and if he is someone who cannot find it in himself to set aside money every month, and needs an endowment to "force" himself, he will find a thousand and one reasons to also not follow through with premium payment.

Personally, at the end of the day, I think what matters is for someone to understand the purpose and goal, and once he/she does that, then endowments are really kind of pointless if you're going to argue from the "forced" savings point.
 

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You mean deposit with bank more risky than leaving premium with insurance companies?

In the last financial crisis, the government gave unlimited guarantee for deposits in banks.

Please check out SDIC.. All bank deposits are insured up to maximum 50k while life insurance policies is 100k (surrender value) and 500k (death benefit or other benefits)

https://www.sdic.org.sg/pp_faq.php

so which one safer eh? :s13:
 

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That theory is flawed in the sense you are assuming that he will choose to "struggle" to pay the premium for the endowment plan. This theory conveniently ignores the scenario whereby he decides the plan is too painful and chooses to terminate/lapse it. How much money does he lose then?

If he is young and he is able to currently set aside money to pay the premiums at this point, it would also indicate he can do the same in setting aside money to invest more efficiently in a simple balanced portfolio proportionate to his age.

The silver lining in this, is that he works his money much harder and much more efficiently and also the fact that the money set aside is more liquid compared to an endowment. He can also lower the amount he invests monthly per mth if he's jobless, etc. The flexibility is there. And honestly without much work every year, the returns are going to beat the endowment returns flat out as we look at longer terms.

The fact of the matter is, it boils down to the person's commitment and if he is someone who cannot find it in himself to set aside money every month, and needs an endowment to "force" himself, he will find a thousand and one reasons to also not follow through with premium payment.

Personally, at the end of the day, I think what matters is for someone to understand the purpose and goal, and once he/she does that, then endowments are really kind of pointless if you're going to argue from the "forced" savings point.


no doubt investing your money can generate better returns than endowment. I personally don't buy endowment as I invest my own money and I set aside 14% of my income on insurance. (my family gonna become millionaire when I die!!:s13::s13:) But most people don't really know how to invest or what to invest.. Yes they can seek help from 'professionals' but lets be honest how many of these 'professionals' are there that genuinely want to help these people. Those that are the true professional are servicing the high net worth. Besides, the risk in buying endowment as compared to investing is much lower.

Also, don't forget this one last benefit that insurance has.. If in the event you die during the tenure of your plan, your family get a lump sum payout. Does investment do that? Also, what if at the point of death, the stock market is not performing very well..

So the point is diversify your money. Endowment is not always very bad. Think long term and widen your scope! :)
 

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Hello to all agents.

Looking for a 1-2year endowment product that functions like a bank bond. Doesnt matter if the yield is lower than the bank bond.

Please pm & quote me.
Thanks.
 

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Hello to all agents.

Looking for a 1-2year endowment product that functions like a bank bond. Doesnt matter if the yield is lower than the bank bond.

Please pm & quote me.
Thanks.
Hello, an alternative to buying a new endowment is second hand endowment. This is particularly useful since you are looking for a ~2 year endowment insurance, which the second hand market can offer while a new endowment tends to have a much longer tenure. Also, this is priced already at a discount from what the policyholder has paid in premiums. You can find out more at:
http://sgtradedendowment.com/information/traded-endowment-policies/
 
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