Gl.inet routers incompatible with Starhub? Disconnection issues.

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I know it sounds bizarre. Hear me out…

For around three months, I have been experiencing disconnections. Nothing to do with Wi-Fi, the problem is that the router has been disconnecting from the ONT. I know this because in the router admin page, it loses the WAN IP address, and just says “reconnecting“ and shows orange colour instead of green.

My Starhub plan has been MaxInfinity 1000Mbps Speedboost with ONT.

My router has been one of either: Flint 1, Flint 2, Slate AX. All gl.inet brand.

To troubleshoot, I spent at least two weeks on each router, all experienced the same disconnection issues.

Aside from swapping out the routers, I replaced network cable between router and ONT.

With my routers and cables changed, I started to assume it was the ONT at fault. I called StarHub many times and, after a lot of back-and-forth, they sent out a hubtrooper to swap my ONT, like for like.

But the issue remained!

Several times a day, the Internet goes down and when I log into my router admin page, sure enough, the issue is always the same: WAN IP lost and “reconnecting:.

Power cycling the router tends to resolve the issue (until it happens again).

I’m sure that I don’t have three routers that all have exactly the same fault.

Following the excellent recommendation by @xiaofan , I recently upgraded to Starhub 5 gbps. It came with a free HB710. I have been using my Flint 2 as main Router (I’m aware of and accept the 2.5 gbps bottleneck on the WAN port) and the HB710 has been a dumb AP, connected by Ethernet to the Flint 2.

But even now, I continue to experience exactly the same disconnection issue!

So to recap, we’ve changed the ONT, we’ve changed from GPON to XGSPON, we’ve changed network cables and yet STILL I continue to experience this same disconnection issue.

At this point, is there anything to deduce other than gl.inet routers have some kind of incompatibility issue with StarHub? It feels weird, but I’m running out of hypotheses.
 

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Following the excellent recommendation by @xiaofan , I recently upgraded to Starhub 5 gbps. It came with a free HB710. I have been using my Flint 2 as main Router (I’m aware of and accept the 2.5 gbps bottleneck on the WAN port) and the HB710 has been a dumb AP, connected by Ethernet to the Flint 2.

But even now, I continue to experience exactly the same disconnection issue!

So to recap, we’ve changed the ONT, we’ve changed from GPON to XGSPON, we’ve changed network cables and yet STILL I continue to experience this same disconnection issue.

At this point, is there anything to deduce other than gl.inet routers have some kind of incompatibility issue with StarHub? It feels weird, but I’m running out of hypotheses.

Try using the HB710 as the main router for a few days to see if you get stable internet or not. If it is stable yet your GL.iNet Flint 2 is not stable, then it may well be a compatibility issue of Flint 2.

BTW, personally I am not a fan of the stock GL.iNet FW even though it makes things easier. If the issue is indeed with Flint 2, I will suggest you flash official OpenWRT FW to see if that sorts out the issue.
 

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Try using the HB710 as the main router for a few days to see if you get stable internet or not. If it is stable yet your GL.iNet Flint 2 is not stable, then it may well be a compatibility issue of Flint 2.

BTW, personally I am not a fan of the stock GL.iNet FW even though it makes things easier. If the issue is indeed with Flint 2, I will suggest you flash official OpenWRT FW to see if that sorts out the issue.

Thank you. Currently I am using the HB710 the main (and only) router.

Will see how it goes for a week or so and report back.

I’m thinking of going for a pair of Asus Zenwifi BT10. Can buy from overseas (used, as-new) for around 550 SGD, delivered.

I remember you recommended this device on another thread.

Then I will remove the HB710 and all my gl.inet routers from my set up.
 

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Thank you. Currently I am using the HB710 the main (and only) router.

Will see how it goes for a week or so and report back.

I’m thinking of going for a pair of Asus Zenwifi BT10. Can buy from overseas (used, as-new) for around 550 SGD, delivered.

I remember you recommended this device on another thread.

Then I will remove the HB710 and all my gl.inet routers from my set up.

If you do not need a mesh solution and single HB710 provides enough coverage, then I will not recomemnd to go with a pair of ZenWiFi BT10.

A pair of ZenWiFi BT10 is only recommended if you need a 10G capable mesh solution.

Personally I recommend M1 users to go with Archer BE805 over Asus RT-BE92U if going with single router. I will also recommend Archer BE805 over single ZenWiFi BT10.
 

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Thank you. Currently I am using the HB710 the main (and only) router.

Will see how it goes for a week or so and report back.

I’m thinking of going for a pair of Asus Zenwifi BT10. Can buy from overseas (used, as-new) for around 550 SGD, delivered.

I remember you recommended this device on another thread.

Then I will remove the HB710 and all my gl.inet routers from my set up.
Why buy ASUS router when HB710 is working well?
 

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If you do not need a mesh solution and single HB710 provides enough coverage, then I will not recomemnd to go with a pair of ZenWiFi BT10.

A pair of ZenWiFi BT10 is only recommended if you need a 10G capable mesh solution.

Personally I recommend M1 users to go with Archer BE805 over Asus RT-BE92U if going with single router. I will also recommend Archer BE805 over single ZenWiFi BT10.
I need at least one wireless AP in the second bedroom (central room in the unit), for coverage. This is why one router alone won’t suffice*

*the fibre point is in a cupboard by the main door and my only option is to place the main router in there. This is problematic for two reasons: 1) that location is on the edge of the unit, rather than central, so doesn’t provide good WiFi coverage and 2) keeping a WiFi router or AP in a cupboard is not ideal in any case.

..hence the need for an AP in the second bedroom.

I might keep the HB710 as the main router (cupboard) and use my Flint 2 as a dumb AP (connected by Ethernet to the HB710).

Currently flashing it with OpenWRT from here: https://dl.gl-inet.com/router/mt6000/open
 

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I know it sounds bizarre. Hear me out…

For around three months, I have been experiencing disconnections. Nothing to do with Wi-Fi, the problem is that the router has been disconnecting from the ONT. I know this because in the router admin page, it loses the WAN IP address, and just says “reconnecting“ and shows orange colour instead of green.

My Starhub plan has been MaxInfinity 1000Mbps Speedboost with ONT.

My router has been one of either: Flint 1, Flint 2, Slate AX. All gl.inet brand.

To troubleshoot, I spent at least two weeks on each router, all experienced the same disconnection issues.

Aside from swapping out the routers, I replaced network cable between router and ONT.

With my routers and cables changed, I started to assume it was the ONT at fault. I called StarHub many times and, after a lot of back-and-forth, they sent out a hubtrooper to swap my ONT, like for like.

But the issue remained!

Several times a day, the Internet goes down and when I log into my router admin page, sure enough, the issue is always the same: WAN IP lost and “reconnecting:.

Power cycling the router tends to resolve the issue (until it happens again).

I’m sure that I don’t have three routers that all have exactly the same fault.

  • Following the excellent recommendation by @xiaofan , I recently upgraded to Starhub 5 gbps. It came with a free HB710. I have been using my Flint 2 as main Router (I’m aware of and accept the 2.5 gbps bottleneck on the WAN port) and the HB710 has been a dumb AP, connected by Ethernet to the Flint 2.

But even now, I continue to experience exactly the same disconnection issue!

So to recap, we’ve changed the ONT, we’ve changed from GPON to XGSPON, we’ve changed network cables and yet STILL I continue to experience this same disconnection issue.

At this point, is there anything to deduce other than gl.inet routers have some kind of incompatibility issue with StarHub? It feels weird, but I’m running out of hypotheses.

Glinet router generally is just an OpenWRT router with a nicer and user friendly frontend GUI build with some (close source) proprietary driver from the chipset manufacturer (MTK SDK) which configure the underbelly OpenWRT build on Linux kernel.

If problem lies with your glinet router, you could try:​
  1. Using the "U-boot method" to flash your firmware again, but do back up your configure. This is to make sure you have a clean flash with no corrupted data and "start clean"​
  2. Configure through the Luci interface if you think there might be some quirks in glinet configuration frontend​
  3. Try the OpenWRT mainline firmware on glinet with open source driver. Or the mainline firmware direct from OpenWRT
Side note: Not using Flint 2 so no comments and experiences on its quirks and issues. With my test Flint 3 arriving next week, so hope it is stable like my Beryl and Slate 7.​
 
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Did you observe a DCHPv4 or DHCPv6 issue? That is, was your Flint 2 router having difficulty getting an IPv4 or IPv6 address from StarHub?
 

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Did you observe a DCHPv4 or DHCPv6 issue? That is, was your Flint 2 router having difficulty getting an IPv4 or IPv6 address from StarHub?
Only v4. I don’t have IPv6 turned on (Flint 2 never acquires IPv6 address).

Meanwhile.. just to update..
  • I installed OpenWRT from gl.inet site (comes with gl.inet GUI), but it’s missing Network Port Management menu in Network settings.
  • So installed OpenWRT from OpenWRT site (no gl.inet GUI) but 5 GHz WLAN won’t broadcast for unknown reason (2.4 GHz WLAN is fine).

So I’ve flashed gl.inet “stable” build 4.7.7 and set up the router from scratch - no tweaks made other than SSID name / key.

Let’s give it a week or so and see what happens.
 

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The Wi-Fi region/country setting won't affect DHCP address assignments. It's important for legal and regulatory reasons.
Ah, see. In that case I would prefer to have a “non-compliant” WiFi frequency than the congested “compliant” ones!

Another hypothesis to my disconnections.. I’m wondering if the routers may be overheating. It’s a possibility. I’ll bear it in mind. I’ve ordered a cooling fan on Shopee.
 

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Ah, see. In that case I would prefer to have a “non-compliant” WiFi frequency than the congested “compliant” ones!

Another hypothesis to my disconnections.. I’m wondering if the routers may be overheating. It’s a possibility. I’ll bear it in mind. I’ve ordered a cooling fan on Shopee.

You might be able to control/tweak the fan through SSH if you are adventurous enough. It is running Linux after all. Not sure if glinet has a native GUI plug-in for that.

For new flash setup, I will prefer the U-boot flash method. Anyway, give it a try first until all does not work then try it out.​
 

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Hmm simplicity sake : have you tried increasing the minimum data rate first ? Set the DFS 60 channel and not too high 24dB and see how it goes ??

The wan missing is one thing however if it still occurs just move on and use the other working devices

Since the troubleshootkng from lan cable to your house layout and others will expand the problem tremendously...

And there's
Heat factor to consider as well which I won't be surprised if it shuts itself off from there....
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https://forum.gl-inet.cn/search.php?mod=forum&searchid=7&orderby=lastpost&ascdesc=desc&searchsubmit=yes&kw=断流

Some users reported that the glinet router has frequent or periodic disconnection issues.

Some Chinese youtuber also shared about MT3000 not very stable.

Seems very similar to firewalls purple initial batches with the wan port not properly soldered on and bad heat management

Causing it to " loosen"

Perhaps is the chipset that was poorly design ( guessing )
 

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Was on starhub a month or two ago, not using Flint 2, using china TX-AX6000 which is same as TUF-AX6000 which spec wise similar to Flint 2, I am using OpenWRT. Mine also has fancy things like dns over ttls, pbr, multiwan failover and custom fou tunnel, no random disconnect. My router is placed on top of a cooling fan rack though.

Flint 2 supposedly has larger users base than TUF-AX6000 thus OpenWRT should theoretically be more stable than mine. Maybe hardware issue? I once had a motherboard with faulty ethernet port that can cause pc to hang and even crash.
 

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Was on starhub a month or two ago, not using Flint 2, using china TX-AX6000 which is same as TUF-AX6000 which spec wise similar to Flint 2, I am using OpenWRT. Mine also has fancy things like dns over ttls, pbr, multiwan failover and custom fou tunnel, no random disconnect. My router is placed on top of a cooling fan rack though.

Flint 2 supposedly has larger users base than TUF-AX6000 thus OpenWRT should theoretically be more stable than mine. Maybe hardware issue? I once had a motherboard with faulty ethernet port that can cause pc to hang and even crash.
thank you. I received my cooling fan router stand today. Will let you know how it goes.!
 
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