HDD errors - Interpreting them?

[Yowzer]

Hi,

my old seagate HDD is showing an error in HD Tune

Spin Retry Count

Current = 100, Worst = 99, Threshold =97, Data = 0, Status=OK


are these values bad? Signs of disaster pending?

 

[jtjt00]

Look like got mechanical problem.

Do backup your data and then do a full error scan for bad sectors.

 

[Yowzer]

Trying not to back up unless needed
The data not important but troublesome to re-install the programs.

Some websites say such readings are normal.

100, 100, 97, 0 supposed to be default but I have
100, 99, 97, 0

Very confused.

 

[jtjt00]

Error scan?

 

[Kiwi8]

Trying not to back up unless needed
The data not important but troublesome to re-install the programs.

Some websites say such readings are normal.

100, 100, 97, 0 supposed to be default but I have
100, 99, 97, 0

Very confused.

If reinstalling the programs is too troublesome, then just clone the entire HDD to the new HDD.

"Spin Retry Count" is actually a critical value that is a potential indicator of imminent electromechanical failure, and should be heeded with extreme caution.

 

[hlots123]

If reinstalling the programs is too troublesome, then just clone the entire HDD to the new HDD.

"Spin Retry Count" is actually a critical value that is a potential indicator of imminent electromechanical failure, and should be heeded with extreme caution.

but isn't it weird since Data = 0 yet still warning? maybe try other tools besides hdtune, eg seatools?

 

[Kiwi8]

but isn't it weird since Data = 0 yet still warning? maybe try other tools besides hdtune, eg seatools?

The raw value of Data differs from manufacturer to manufacturer and sometimes from different products of the same manufacturer too. It is better to refer to the Current, Worst and Threshold values as they are calculated from current and past values of Data respectively.

 

[hlots123]

The raw value of Data differs from manufacturer to manufacturer and sometimes from different products of the same manufacturer too.

but if data is 0, how can 0 be interpreted differently...?

It is better to refer to the Current, Worst and Threshold values as they are calculated from current and past values of Data respectively.

i want to disagree, but i layperson only... so dun mind me

 

[Kiwi8]

but if data is 0, how can 0 be interpreted differently...?
i want to disagree, but i layperson only... so dun mind me

Can. Some values either have a +offset or -offset, some multiply or divide by some offset.

But after application of their inhouse formula, the values for Current, Worst, Threshold will be standard in S.M.A.R.T.

 

[hlots123]

gud to know abt offset, thx . but as layperson, hard to imagine they'd program an offset & formula instead of using a simple 0,1,2,3 count...

 

[Kiwi8]

gud to know abt offset, thx . but as layperson, hard to imagine they'd program an offset & formula instead of using a simple 0,1,2,3 count...

Well it's possible that u may be right too, but if the manufacturer's calculation of the normalised value from the raw value results results in a warning, it's better to heed the warning to avoid losing data in the event the HDD fails.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.#ATA_S.M.A.R.T._attributes

 

[matrix05]

Backup impt data in cloud. Do not do a HDD scan as this may kill the HDD sooner. Take note of OS s/n. Looks for deal for SDD. Port over.

 

[Yowzer]

Bought cheap ssd & decided to shelf the hdd already.