How to buy sell physical gold?

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I am interested to purchase physical gold.

Let say i get from UOB, can i sell it back to them after 1 year?

Where is the best place to get it?

How should I keep it? will it have resale value if there are damages to the physical gold?
 

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I am interested to purchase physical gold.

Let say i get from UOB, can i sell it back to them after 1 year?

Where is the best place to get it?

How should I keep it? will it have resale value if there are damages to the physical gold?

You can buy and sell back the gold to UOB provided that you purchase the gold from UOB and they are not remove from the seal that UOB seal the coin. Can refer to here on the price of buy and sell atbUOB.

https://uniservices1.uobgroup.com/s...This=true&TB_iframe=true&width=560&height=400
 

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Sell gold, to banks (they'll cut you a very bad deal, pay below spot) or to bullion dealers (also a bad deal, cuz they pay for just above spot, and quietly resell at 25% above spot citing bulls*t like transport costs, etc).

Now is not the time to sell gold. It is time to sell gold when everyone wants to buy gold.
 

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Depends on the type i guess, i always wanted to buy gold bars, like those u see on cartoon....

Mustafa got sell small small rectangle kind
 

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when you buy it comes with a seal, and we are not suppose to open up the seal?

How does it look like ?

I will post a picture which I get from a forum when I get home.

As promised.

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Depends on the type i guess, i always wanted to buy gold bars, like those u see on cartoon....

Mustafa got sell small small rectangle kind

I don't know who this is adressed to,just to add to what you say, there are gold bars inside assay card which will indicate the weight and purity of the gold and serial number. This are like those from PAMP, Credit Suisse, Perth Mint and etc. For UOB selling of gold coins and bars,there is a plastic seal by UOB on top of the assay card or coin to indicate that the gold is sold by UOB as they only buyback gold that they sell.
 

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When you buy a physical gold from bank, there is a spread about 8-10%.

Assuming you buy physical gold and sell it on the same day back to the same bank, you lose 10%.

Which means that in order to break even, you need the Gold Spot Price to move 10%, not including the calculation of currency exchange (Gold Spot Price is based on USD). The price UOB sell is after currency conversion.

If you are buying physical gold as a form as hedging, by all means. If you are buying for investment, 1 yr is not enough.

There are other alternative to buy Pamp and Suisse if you buying in bulk.
 

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My analysis is after the removal of GST on precious metal, there is either no difference in price or a spike in price. :s22: Unlikely the price of gold will drop much.
 

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When you buy a physical gold from bank, there is a spread about 8-10%.

Assuming you buy physical gold and sell it on the same day back to the same bank, you lose 10%.

Which means that in order to break even, you need the Gold Spot Price to move 10%, not including the calculation of currency exchange (Gold Spot Price is based on USD). The price UOB sell is after currency conversion.

If you are buying physical gold as a form as hedging, by all means. If you are buying for investment, 1 yr is not enough.

There are other alternative to buy Pamp and Suisse if you buying in bulk.

The price is inclusive of 7% GST of course the spread is 8-10%. After Oct 1 with the removal of GST, the spread would go down. Yes there are alternative to buying from UOB like buying from Bank of China and other retailers. All the retailers that need to charge GST would have around the same spread because of the 7% GST. So your point? You can buy physical gold bullion that does not charge 7% GST? What is the spread like? If you are saying the buy and sell spread of recognised physical gold bullion coin and bars is like 1%, do tell us as I am sure many people would be interested.
 

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My analysis is after the removal of GST on precious metal, there is either no difference in price or a spike in price. :s22: Unlikely the price of gold will drop much.

What I wrote in another forum:

My own personal opinion is there won't be any much different in price before and after the removal of GST as it will definitely benefit retailers more than consumer. The retailers will profit more from the removal of GST if they maintain current pricing and say that the large premium is due to the demand for precious metals is so high. The only game changer is if buying overseas and not having to pay GST at customs for purchase over $400. If buying overseas precious metals above $400 is not subjected to GST,I forsee people will organize more mass orders and group buys if the price of purchasing locally is more expensive than purchasing overseas. When this happens,local retailers will try to discourage people from buying overseas due to cost of shipping and reliability and whether the precious metal purchased overseas are real. In the end, the older generation who are not as tech savvy will continue to purchase from local retailer huge premium and local retailer increase their profit from them.

If the removal of GST and customer still need to pay GST for overseas purchase of precious metals,we consumers are screwed either way as local retailer will profit by increasing premium to a level like before GST removal and buying overseas incur 7% GST. If that situation arise, I would much rather consumer purchase overseas if price remains the same or cheaper than buying locally.

The local shops also have other local bullion coin which might not be exempted from GST and if the price of this coins is so much higher than those exempted from GST,who in their right mind will purchase the one not exempted from GST if the coin is strictly bullion with no numismatic values?They need to increase the price through premium or even increase the price above the GST non-exempted coin to push the sales of the non-GST exempted coin. How would they ever justify the pricing of GST exempted coin to be more expensive than the price of non-GST exempted you might ask? They can either hold the stocks of the GST exempted stocks and say that due to strong demand they are sold out or they can simply justify the huge premium by saying that the GST exempted coin are in demand and they have limited supply.

It is heads I win and tails you lose. :p
 

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Thanks for your info, this site look attractive when you buy in bulk. Compare this 3 distributors and uob which offers an attractive price and services??

For me all should be ok. Pricing wise you can compare yourself to see which is the best value for your money. I am a coin collector and I don't mind paying hundreds to a thousand dollar on a silver coin which have a melt value of $30+. Different people are looking to purchase with a different set of ideas in place. So which are you?
 
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