Internet traffic to EU slow

[seowbin]

Do you all realized it?

Multiple subsea broken, a lot of providers route you via US to EU

 

[Mach3.2]

Do you all realized it?

I was wondering why connection to Europe suddenly suck..

Suddenly have connectivity issues to the the Europe NTP Pool monitors

Also to these 4 EU RIPE Atlas servers

 

[sp0inK]

yes, any news on this? i think SEA and Oceanic region connection to EU servers impacted quite badly the past few days

 

[Mach3.2]

Cursory search says the western segment of SEA-ME-WE 5 is broken

 

[seowbin]

Aae1 and smw5 broken. A lot of big providers Kanna

Think smw4 maybe still survive. No more backup capacity liao for people to switch over. Few tbps affected easily

 

[hwzlite]

As reported from foreign news:

https://www.thedailystar.net/busine...reakdown-disrupts-bangladesh-internet-3591151

The undersea cable of the SEA-ME-WE 5 got broken in a spot between Singapore and Malaysia, he said.

For that, all circuits of all members of the consortium got down, he added.

"So, a ship will be mobilised to repair and restore the service. Total operation will take minimum 2 to three days," he added.

The SEA-ME-WE 5 is a 20,000km submarine cable system connecting 17 countries through Points-of-Presence from Singapore to the Middle East to France and Italy in Western Europe.

The cable that laid in the eastern side that connected Singapore got broken, while the connectivity in the western side that connected France remained operational, he added.
....

Ref: https://www.submarinenetworks.com/en/systems/asia-europe-africa/smw5

 

[TanKianW]

As the demand (or reliance) for higher-speed internet increases, sub-sea fiber cabling will continue to HUAT and technically only "4 companies" doing it.

There are still quite some capacities of different sub-sea cabling, just by different owners with other forms of business interests. Consumer internet is just not their priority.​

 

[acidcrash]

No wonder I went bukit timah yesterday I climb so slow

 

[hwzlite]

As the demand (or reliance) for higher-speed internet increases, sub-sea fiber cabling will continue to HUAT and technically only "4 companies" doing it.

There are still quite some capacities of different sub-sea cabling, just by different owners with other forms of business interests. Consumer internet is just not their priority.​

And it is also interesting that EU has signaled its interest with a €23 million investment in Far North Fiber which connect Europe to Japan, but is only possible because of climate change.



LOWEST LATENCY - EUROPE TO ASIA
Far North Fiber is a 14,500 km route greatly reducing the optical distance between Japan and Western Europe relative to all other combinations of terrestrial and oceanic fiber plant available today. The route minimizes signal latency to an unrivaled 142 millisecond Round-Trip Delay (RTD).

 

[CoolRock]

As the demand (or reliance) for higher-speed internet increases, sub-sea fiber cabling will continue to HUAT and technically only "4 companies" doing it.

There are still quite some capacities of different sub-sea cabling, just by different owners with other forms of business interests. Consumer internet is just not their priority.​

but enterprise/corporate internet are affected too

 

[seowbin]

most depends on the IP transit providers and big boys like Telia, HE and Cogent all kanna.

Let's see the situation last how long. It's broken around Indo side.

 

[firesong]

Do you all realized it?

Multiple subsea broken, a lot of providers route you via US to EU

Since Friday. But I wasn't home.

 

[TanKianW]

And it is also interesting that EU has signaled its interest with a €23 million investment in Far North Fiber which connect Europe to Japan, but is only possible because of climate change.



LOWEST LATENCY - EUROPE TO ASIA
Far North Fiber is a 14,500 km route greatly reducing the optical distance between Japan and Western Europe relative to all other combinations of terrestrial and oceanic fiber plant available today. The route minimizes signal latency to an unrivaled 142 millisecond Round-Trip Delay (RTD).

Some of the great challenges for sub-sea cabling project include finding/securing the landing (station) partners, multiple licenses and permits of different discipline (Eg. environmental impact assessment, beach manhole, safety requirements related) and at the same time ensure the cable laying work were well executed (Eg. not exceed bend radius) at both land and sea side.....these are usually the greatest obstacles and pain in the a**.​

 

[kimsix]

Saw this and now got outage



https://www.theverge.com/c/24070570/internet-cables-undersea-deep-repair-ships

 

[jasonho]

Saw this and now got outage



https://www.theverge.com/c/24070570/internet-cables-undersea-deep-repair-ships

They were having beach party?

 

[MrClubbie]

And it is also interesting that EU has signaled its interest with a €23 million investment in Far North Fiber which connect Europe to Japan, but is only possible because of climate change.



LOWEST LATENCY - EUROPE TO ASIA
Far North Fiber is a 14,500 km route greatly reducing the optical distance between Japan and Western Europe relative to all other combinations of terrestrial and oceanic fiber plant available today. The route minimizes signal latency to an unrivaled 142 millisecond Round-Trip Delay (RTD).

without climate change also possible to connect from alaska to japan and europe to canada, the rest overland

 

[trenzterra]

Is UK also affected? Was trying to book things for my trip over the weekend but it was damn laggy

 

[xiaofan]

As the demand (or reliance) for higher-speed internet increases, sub-sea fiber cabling will continue to HUAT and technically only "4 companies" doing it.
There are still quite some capacities of different sub-sea cabling, just by different owners with other forms of business interests. Consumer internet is just not their priority.

Which 4 companies do you mean here?

Looks like Internet companies (Google, Meta Platforms, Microsoft, etc) and Consortia of Telecommunications companies are the top owners of subsea cable systems.

https://dgtlinfra.com/top-subsea-cable-systems/

As a whole, top subsea cable systems currently in-service and owned by large internet companies like Google and Meta Platforms include Grace Hopper, Dunant, and MAREA. Similarly, key systems like SEA-ME-WE 5 and Asia Africa Europe-1 (AAE-1) are owned by consortiums of telecommunications companies.

 

[sp0inK]

Just sharing some info i found

FYI: On Saturday morning SEA time a submarine fibre optic cable between Singapore and the EU (Poland) was severed. This cable serviced large chunks of South-East Asia and Oceania. Following the break intermediary routers began routing traffic over secondary cables. These cables were of much lower capacity, so subsequently experienced severe congestion, resulting in packet loss.

As the nature of the fault became known, it was reclassified from a 'temporary' to a 'permanent' failure, and network operations teams at ISPs all across the region began altering their routes to bypass the fault and restore performance. Different ISPs did this at different speeds. At this stage Aussie Broadband and many other Oceanic ISPs are routing data through the US instead of Singapore.

The fault is a physical one. Boats and divers need to go and inspect the break to see how extensive it is and what actions need to be taken to restore functionality. The whole process might take weeks to months (depending on vessel and technician availability and safety concerns — if the break is off the coast of Yemen, for example).

 

[xiaofan]

Since Friday. But I wasn't home.

View attachment 49257

Singtel IPv6 to Cambridge University seems to be okay.

                                                 My traceroute  [v0.95]
OpenWrt (2400:d802:xxxx::xxxx) -> cam.ac.uk (2a05:b400:5:270::80e8:8408)                       2024-04-23T19:40:33+0800
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                                                               Packets               Pings
 Host                                                                        Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
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 2. 2001:c20:3c00::6                                                         12.5%    72    2.2   2.7   1.8  36.4   4.3
 3. 2001:c20:3c00::7                                                          0.0%    72   10.0  25.1   1.6  70.4  15.6
 4. 2001:c20:0:3::35                                                          0.0%    72    1.9   3.0   1.6  36.3   4.2
 5. 2001:c20:0:3::a                                                           0.0%    72    1.8   1.7   1.4   2.0   0.2
 6. 2001:c10:80:2::a21                                                        0.0%    72    1.8   2.4   1.7  16.4   2.3
 7. 2001:c10:80:2::915                                                        0.0%    72    1.8   3.3   1.7  30.5   3.7
 8. 2001:c10:80:2::a8e                                                        0.0%    72    2.7   3.2   2.3  21.8   2.5
 9. 2001:c10:80:1::3f6                                                        0.0%    72  181.7 181.9 181.0 198.3   2.1
10. (waiting for reply)
11. ae23.londhx-sbr1.ja.net                                                   0.0%    72  181.3 182.0 181.1 200.6   2.8
12. ae28.lowdss-sbr1.ja.net                                                   0.0%    72  184.9 185.9 184.8 216.2   3.9
13. ae26.lowdss-ban1.ja.net                                                   0.0%    72  184.8 185.3 184.5 200.8   2.6
14. 2001:630:0:8014::a                                                        0.0%    72  187.2 189.2 186.5 235.1   8.3
15. b-jc.c-hi.net.cam.ac.uk                                                   0.0%    72  187.8 187.9 187.5 188.5   0.2
16. c-hi.d-dw.net.cam.ac.uk                                                   0.0%    72  187.9 187.9 187.7 188.2   0.1
17. d-dw.s-dw.net.cam.ac.uk                                                   0.0%    72  188.0 188.0 187.6 188.5   0.2
18. 2a05:b400:5:ff01::2                                                       0.0%    72  187.1 187.1 186.8 189.9   0.4
19. f-sv-net.f-sv-uis.net.cam.ac.uk                                           0.0%    72  187.3 187.3 187.0 187.8   0.1
20. tm-128-232-132-8.tm.uis.cam.ac.uk                                         0.0%    71  187.2 187.1 186.8 187.6   0.1

But IPv4 is bad.

                                                 My traceroute  [v0.95]
OpenWrt (219.xx.xxx.xx) -> cam.ac.uk (128.232.132.8)                                           2024-04-23T19:43:18+0800
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                                                               Packets               Pings
 Host                                                                        Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. bb219-xx-xxx-254.singnet.com.sg                                           0.0%    40    2.9   5.5   2.3  33.1   6.9
 2. 165.21.193.22                                                             0.0%    40    1.8   8.9   1.8  35.0   9.3
 3. 165.21.193.21                                                             0.0%    40    1.3   2.5   1.1  31.7   4.9
 4. 165.21.138.245                                                            0.0%    40    1.7   4.1   1.5  23.1   5.4
 5. SN-SINQT1-BO403-ae1.singnet.com.sg                                        0.0%    40    1.6   3.2   1.6  44.8   6.8
 6. 203.208.177.213                                                           0.0%    40    2.1   3.1   1.6  15.4   2.8
 7. xn-lhrcl1-bo706.ix.singtel.com                                            0.0%    40    1.7   7.3   1.6  39.0  10.4
 8. 203.208.158.30                                                            0.0%    40  184.0 173.5 171.2 186.9   3.8
 9. lag-2.mpr2.lax12.us.zip.zayo.com                                         92.3%    40  6726. 7255. 6726. 7569. 461.4
10. ae14.cs1.lax112.us.eth.zayo.com                                          79.5%    40  306.7 311.7 305.5 323.9   6.8
11. ae3.cs1.dfw2.us.eth.zayo.com                                              0.0%    40  319.4 320.3 319.2 323.4   1.0
12. ae17.cs1.dfw2.us.zip.zayo.com                                            94.7%    39  328.9 326.9 324.9 328.9   2.8
13. (waiting for reply)
14. (waiting for reply)
15. ae5.cs3.lhr11.uk.eth.zayo.com                                            97.4%    39  310.4 310.4 310.4 310.4   0.0
16. ae17.mpr1.lhr28.uk.zip.zayo.com                                           0.0%    39  319.7 313.9 306.8 325.6   4.9
17. (waiting for reply)
18. ae23.londtt-sbr1.ja.net                                                   0.0%    39  316.0 315.0 313.3 338.9   4.2
19. ae28.londtw-sbr2.ja.net                                                   0.0%    39  327.0 319.1 312.3 351.3   6.8
20. ae31.lowdss-sbr1.ja.net                                                   0.0%    39  327.1 319.2 312.1 335.4   5.0
21. ae26.lowdss-ban1.ja.net                                                   0.0%    39  307.9 308.7 307.3 319.1   2.7
22. uoc.ja.net                                                                0.0%    39  329.3 327.7 315.5 383.2  15.5
23. c-hi.b-jc.net.cam.ac.uk                                                   0.0%    39  319.2 321.7 319.0 356.0   7.0
24. d-dw.s-dw.net.cam.ac.uk                                                   0.0%    39  317.1 317.2 316.5 324.0   1.2
25. d-dw.s-dw.net.cam.ac.uk                                                   0.0%    39  320.0 319.7 314.0 329.2   4.4