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Are these 2 the same ar?

https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www.newegg.com/amp/p/1Z4-000R-004U5

vs Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250Gb

The laptop’s stock SSD is that Samsung 128Gb one in the link, which now is dead probably . Laptop bios say no hard disk detected.

I plonked in that 970 EVO NVMe one. Bios also says no hard disk detected. This stick is new. Is it cos different type SSD that’s why laptop cannot detect?
 
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Are these 2 the same ar?

https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www.newegg.com/amp/p/1Z4-000R-004U5

vs Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250Gb

The laptop’s stock SSD is that Samsung 128Gb one in the link, which now is dead probably . Laptop bios say no hard disk detected.

I plonked in that 970 EVO NVMe one. Bios also says no hard disk detected. This stick is new. Is it cos different type SSD that’s why laptop cannot detect?
Nope, yours is a SATA M2, the Samsung 970 EVO is a NVMe M2. Get a 860 EVO instead.
 

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Thank you to the 2 members below.
Eh guys, just now I installed the 970 EVO to the laptop and powered up.
Won’t kill the 970 EVO hor? :eek:
Can fit the slot leh :o
Btw, any 860 EVO should be able to work hor (regardless of capacity)? TQTQ
 

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This one should work on the laptop? Thank you
Samsung 860 EVO SATA III M.2 250GB MZ-N6E250BW https://s.lazada.sg/s.8jKB

Any “affordable” M2 SATA 2280 type to recommend me ar?
Samsung & Micron are very expensive wor :o
 

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You might wish to first check the laptop manual as to whether PCIe SSD is supported.

If you can insert the Samsung 970 evo, the MB probably supports PCIe SSDs running at SATA speeds.
 

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You might wish to first check the laptop manual as to whether PCIe SSD is supported.

If you can insert the Samsung 970 evo, the MB probably supports PCIe SSDs running at SATA speeds.

Is it correct to say NVMe is newer and 'higher', therefore newer mobos that can read a NVMe drive sure can read M2 2280 PCIe drive?

But M2 2280 PCIe drive that comes with older laptops may or may not be able to support NVMe?? As is the case with my 2013-released laptop?
 

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check your laptop to see supported models.
m2 has sata and nvme interface. Some laptop support 1, others both.

Even if your laptop support the sata or nvme doesnt mean that brand will work on that laptop. Need to check qvl list or just buy similar model.

I think transcend is cheap and might work for u. dont buy western digital
 

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Is it correct to say NVMe is newer and 'higher', therefore newer mobos that can read a NVMe drive sure can read M2 2280 PCIe drive?

But M2 2280 PCIe drive that comes with older laptops may or may not be able to support NVMe?? As is the case with my 2013-released laptop?

Well, NvMe uses the PCIe physical connection, so yes it will work so long as the port on your laptop matches the key on your SSD: https://www.atpinc.com/blog/what-is-m.2-M-B-BM-key-socket-3

And as far as I know, if your laptop supports m.2 pcie SSDs, it should also support nvme. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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Nope, yours is a SATA M2, the Samsung 970 EVO is a NVMe M2. Get a 860 EVO instead.

ALL SATA m.2 slots support pcie drives.
NOT ALL m.2 slots support SATA.

its only an issue if u are buying sata drives. SATA requires a separate controller in the interface.
 

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Is it correct to say NVMe is newer and 'higher', therefore newer mobos that can read a NVMe drive sure can read M2 2280 PCIe drive?

But M2 2280 PCIe drive that comes with older laptops may or may not be able to support NVMe?? As is the case with my 2013-released laptop?

Generally, yes.

If the M.2 PCIe drive is not stated to be NVMe, then it does not support NVMe but will work at lower speeds. My previous Haswell board has a M.2 port that works with SATA and PCIe, the latter at X2 IIRC.
 

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Generally, yes.

If the M.2 PCIe drive is not stated to be NVMe, then it does not support NVMe but will work at lower speeds. My previous Haswell board has a M.2 port that works with SATA and PCIe, the latter at X2 IIRC.

pcie = nvme its the same ****
sata is sata and requries a seperate controller. not all m.2 slots support sata
 

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wah why so confusing de

last time so long can fit sata cable means it will work

now if i can fit in the M.2 slot it might not work? lol....
 

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wah why so confusing de

last time so long can fit sata cable means it will work

now if i can fit in the M.2 slot it might not work? lol....

a sata drive wont fit into a nvme only m.2 slot. they are key-ed differently.
if it fits it works.
 

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a sata drive wont fit into a nvme only m.2 slot. they are key-ed differently.
if it fits it works.
There needs to be NVMe boot support in the bios too, it might not have been enabled in laptops with custom oem bios.
 
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