Manning = mobilisation exercise?

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new bird here, hope some laojiao can help me

is Manning = mobilisation exercise? im being told different terms, so i am quite confused.

i know ICT got advance notice but manning/mobilisation got advance notice? if so how long in advance?
 

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new bird here, hope some laojiao can help me

is Manning = mobilisation exercise? im being told different terms, so i am quite confused.

i know ICT got advance notice but manning/mobilisation got advance notice? if so how long in advance?

"Manning" is a term in the army. The formal term is "Alert Amber" Manning; Sometimes referred to as "Standby" too. When a unit is on Alert Amber, it means this unit is placed under standby mode for a period of time, eg: 1 month or 3 months. The period whereby the unit is on "Standby" is the "Manning period".

All personnels under this unit would be given a code, when this code is flashed through tv, aired by radio; then this Alert Amber unit would be activated. This activation is thus referred to as "Mobilisation". Moblise through sms, phone call by Detachment IC, tv & radio, is called "Open Mobilisation (Open Mob)"; Through sms and phone only is called "Slient Mobilisation (Slient Mob)".

When mobilised, manning personnels are expected to report to designated camps within 8 hours (H + 7) where H is the 'mobilise timing'; otherwise it is counted as chargeable offence, depending on seriousness of your issue.

To answer your question, manning doesnt mean mobilisation, becos sometimes even though your unit is on manning period but you dont get mobilised at all!

So you clear now??? You just ORD?
 
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On your asking about whether got advance notice, usually during ICT your unit would inform you about the next manning period and after ICT, MINDEF Notification Ctr would prompt you to answer their answering machine, they would tell you the dates; then confirm you received the dates.

So that is advance notice. During this Alert Amber Manning Period, you are not supposed to travel overseas, unless is work related; then you would need your boss or HR to issue you the letter of excuse. If you travel out of SG during is manning period, is a chargeable offend.

In conclusion, based on the above two premises, advance notice is given, so there is no reason for no advance notice. For Mobilisation, there are no tell tale signs except it might happened on weekends, Saturdays. However, recently, there was one Sunday mob.
 
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For Mobilisation, there are no tell tale signs except it might happened on weekends, Saturdays. However, recently, there was one Sunday mob.
Rumour has it, that was due to death threat against Supreme Leader. :s13:

Anyway mine was evergreen unit and our's was always silent mob. Some units have open but our's always silent.
 

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Rumour has it, that was due to death threat against Supreme Leader. :s13:

Anyway mine was evergreen unit and our's was always silent mob. Some units have open but our's always silent.

:s13: Evergreen unit is what? The unit is always there, no stand down or MR huh? :s22:
 

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On your asking about whether got advance notice, usually during ICT your unit would inform you about the next manning period and after ICT, MINDEF Notification Ctr would prompt you to answer their answering machine, they would tell you the dates; then confirm you received the dates.

So that is advance notice. During this Alert Amber Manning Period, you are not supposed to travel overseas, unless is work related; then you would need your boss or HR to issue you the letter of excuse. If you travel out of SG during is manning period, is a chargeable offend.

In conclusion, based on the above two premises, advance notice is given, so there is no reason for no advance notice. For Mobilisation, there are no tell tale signs except it might happened on weekends, Saturdays. However, recently, there was one Sunday mob.

just to clarify 1 point. there are 2 types of manning.

1 type you are not allowed to travel overseas without permission.

the 2nd type, you are free to travel as long you key in overseas notification.
 

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"Manning" is a term in the army. The formal term is "Alert Amber" Manning; Sometimes referred to as "Standby" too. When a unit is on Alert Amber, it means this unit is placed under standby mode for a period of time, eg: 1 month or 3 months. The period whereby the unit is on "Standby" is the "Manning period".

All personnels under this unit would be given a code, when this code is flashed through tv, aired by radio; then this Alert Amber unit would be activated. This activation is thus referred to as "Mobilisation". Moblise through sms, phone call by Detachment IC, tv & radio, is called "Open Mobilisation (Open Mob)"; Through sms and phone only is called "Slient Mobilisation (Slient Mob)".

When mobilised, manning personnels are expected to report to designated camps within 8 hours (H + 7) where H is the 'mobilise timing'; otherwise it is counted as chargeable offence, depending on seriousness of your issue.

To answer your question, manning doesnt mean mobilisation, becos sometimes even though your unit is on manning period but you dont get mobilised at all!

So you clear now??? You just ORD?

On your asking about whether got advance notice, usually during ICT your unit would inform you about the next manning period and after ICT, MINDEF Notification Ctr would prompt you to answer their answering machine, they would tell you the dates; then confirm you received the dates.

So that is advance notice. During this Alert Amber Manning Period, you are not supposed to travel overseas, unless is work related; then you would need your boss or HR to issue you the letter of excuse. If you travel out of SG during is manning period, is a chargeable offend.

In conclusion, based on the above two premises, advance notice is given, so there is no reason for no advance notice. For Mobilisation, there are no tell tale signs except it might happened on weekends, Saturdays. However, recently, there was one Sunday mob.

So basicially, mobilisation can only happen during the manning period, but it doesnt mean cfm got mob. The manning period will be inform in advanced. Correct? so how advance usually notice is?

ORDed last july. i went back for mob brief in jan. the encik keep saying no advance notice one, but i called mindef they say wait for the manning period which will be inform in advance. so i am bit confused. i do not have any manning notice(checked NS portal). i am asking now because im going aussie in april for about 12 days i have no idea what i need to do other than doing the notification on NS portal. that should be enough rite?
 
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:s13: Evergreen unit is what? The unit is always there, no stand down or MR huh? :s22:

Evergreen unit kept repeating it's 10 year cycle, won't stand down. Personnel will still MR after clocking the 7high+10 ORNS and new bird will be posted in and the vicious cycle kept repeating......:s12::s12:
 

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So basicially, mobilisation can only happen during the manning period, but it doesnt mean cfm got mob. The manning period will be inform in advanced. Correct? so how advance usually notice is?

ORDed last july. i went back for mob brief in jan. the encik keep saying no advance notice one, but i called mindef they say wait for the manning period which will be inform in advance. so i am bit confused. i do not have any manning notice(checked NS portal). i am asking now because im going aussie in april for about 12 days i have no idea what i need to do other than doing the notification on NS portal. that should be enough rite?

i think you heard wrongly or he didn't explain properly

you will be informed of the the mob manning period (usually 2 weeks long) much earlier.

Mobilisation is the actual activation which may or may not occur during the period. this will not have advanced notice. (but if you are located high up enough in the command chain, you will have a fairly good idea of the odds)

if there is no notification in ns portal means there is no mob manning lor.

for your current case, just log in the overseas notification, even if the mob manning notification comes later , just acknowledge it but still carry on with your over seas trip.
 

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So basicially, mobilisation can only happen during the manning period, but it doesnt mean cfm got mob. The manning period will be inform in advanced. Correct? so how advance usually notice is?

Manning period does not constitutes to a moblisation, true or false. A little bit of both perhaps imho. By having a manning period, all NSmen under the standby units are expected to keep their fullpacks items, maintain themselves and to have a sense of national security.

Also, to be on standby doesnt mean just for war, it could be for other reasons such as disaster relief in SG: eg scenario; a really really really rare tsunami floods SG in CBD, your unit is activated for disaster relief.

Do it have advance notice or not, this is really hard to say. War or disasters dont just happened with advance notice. Do they? The only advance notice they give is perhaps the notice via phone notification by MINDEF and unit briefing.

ORDed last july. i went back for mob brief in jan. the encik keep saying no advance notice one, but i called mindef they say wait for the manning period which will be inform in advance. so i am bit confused. i do not have any manning notice(checked NS portal). i am asking now because im going aussie in april for about 12 days i have no idea what i need to do other than doing the notification on NS portal. that should be enough rite?

I somehow agree with your encik. I think your encik also would have agree war and disaster dont have advance notice. When it happens, it happens. When come to that even units not on standby could be recalled back as well for the relief efforts.

I can understand that you wanna go overseas but you wanna find out got manning period or not.

In my previous experience in a NS infantry unit, usually is book the holiday first, then if suay suay really got manning period during the period of your holidays, produce the receipt to let them see. This is on the basis that you dont know about a manning period beforehand. Usually units would ask the men to cancel their holiday but NSmen would throw back, do unit / SAF refund the money paid? So in the end, NSmen would still be let off, provided that they dont know the manning period beforehand and inform their respective commanders.

Hence, the gist in above paragragh is to be on good terms with your commmanders; your PCs or PSs or even Sect Comds & buddies can help you with your holidays, afterall, your comds are NSmen too, so they will know your situation. So it is really depending on units.

Based on your case of you went for Mob Briefing already, then surely you know the manning period already, so hence I dont think you can fulfil this holiday. But sometimes during manning period, I still see my unit guys go overseas eat, drink and play like nobody business, on FB. I supposed they have informed their respective comds already.
 
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