[Review] Synology 1513+

[davidktw]

Hi there Gribber, so sorry for the late reply.

Fortunately, I figured out my issue. Here's to helping others who are facing the issue.

First off: Check that your LAN cables are REALLY supportive of 1GBPS. Mine was a CAT6-claimed-to-be-1gbps cable from Atake but sadly it didnt hit the value.
(To check whether your cable is 100mbps or 1gbps, simply plug it to the nas lan port and open the GUI to see under network interface.)

Second: ONT terminal must be connected directly to any third party gigabit router. Previously, my third party router was connected to that retarded Singtel black mio tv router which was plain stupid and dumb.

Third(optional): Do purchase a L2 managed switch or smart switch so that your nas is able to make full use of link aggregation. I purchased a TP-LINK TL-SG3210 managed switch from amazon and configured it to support link aggregation. OMG it works flawlessly!!!


Hope others who are facing the issue can use my solution for it

So did the link aggregation makes your access to the NAS faster?

 

[Gribber]

Hi there Gribber, so sorry for the late reply.

Fortunately, I figured out my issue. Here's to helping others who are facing the issue.

First off: Check that your LAN cables are REALLY supportive of 1GBPS. Mine was a CAT6-claimed-to-be-1gbps cable from Atake but sadly it didnt hit the value.
(To check whether your cable is 100mbps or 1gbps, simply plug it to the nas lan port and open the GUI to see under network interface.)

Second: ONT terminal must be connected directly to any third party gigabit router. Previously, my third party router was connected to that retarded Singtel black mio tv router which was plain stupid and dumb.

Third(optional): Do purchase a L2 managed switch or smart switch so that your nas is able to make full use of link aggregation. I purchased a TP-LINK TL-SG3210 managed switch from amazon and configured it to support link aggregation. OMG it works flawlessly!!!


Hope others who are facing the issue can use my solution for it

grats. btw, how did you test the link agg? Or you merely pair them on the NAS level?

 

[LexenZ]

Gribber: I just configured it in the switch GUI to enable LACP which then activates the switch 802.11ad configuration!

Most of the switches sold in Singapore retail stores, e.g. challenger, cyberactive doesn't have smart switches and L2 managed switches. If anyone wishes to buy I suggest please go amazon instead! Don't get conned by the assistants there!

Davidktw: Oh yes it is indeed faster!!! Much more than before!

 

[Gribber]

Gribber: I just configured it in the switch GUI to enable LACP which then activates the switch 802.11ad configuration!

Most of the switches sold in Singapore retail stores, e.g. challenger, cyberactive doesn't have smart switches and L2 managed switches. If anyone wishes to buy I suggest please go amazon instead! Don't get conned by the assistants there!

Davidktw: Oh yes it is indeed faster!!! Much more than before!

Hmm.. your home devices have 10Gbps or dual 1gbps card?

 

[davidktw]

Gribber: I just configured it in the switch GUI to enable LACP which then activates the switch 802.11ad configuration!

Most of the switches sold in Singapore retail stores, e.g. challenger, cyberactive doesn't have smart switches and L2 managed switches. If anyone wishes to buy I suggest please go amazon instead! Don't get conned by the assistants there!

Davidktw: Oh yes it is indeed faster!!! Much more than before!

How do you determine that it was faster ? Since you have linked 4 LAN ports together to form a 4Gbps LAG bond channel, did your transfer of a single large file from your NAS to your system or from your system to your NAS becomes 4 times faster ?

Are you able to show any tests that you have did to confirm that ?

 

[quekky]

How do you determine that it was faster ? Since you have linked 4 LAN ports together to form a 4Gbps LAG bond channel, did your transfer of a single large file from your NAS to your system or from your system to your NAS becomes 4 times faster ?

Are you able to show any tests that you have did to confirm that ?

before: 10MBps
after spending some $ & time and buying the switch: 100MBps

ya it's 10 times faster.



(my 1 cable can also 100MBps (pun intended))

 

[davidktw]

I may not understand the full answer. What is basically sought is that whether it is possible to put files into my folder. Or the only way is by dropbox or email. Is that correct? As from the remote user.

Are you asking if another user can put files into a folder given permission to you only ? The answer is NO. However, you can always assign more than one users to have read/write access. Shared folder in Synology do not have owner per se. Users in Synology can be given access to zero or more shared folders. So if you would like User A and User B to have read/write access to Shared Folder X, just assign the corresponding permission found in

Control Panel > Shared Folder > [Choose a Shared Folder] > Permissions.

You will see all the users configured in the NAS and yo can access specific access to each individual user. As shown in the screen capture below, both "davidktw" and "admin" have read/write access to the "BIGCUBE-davidktw" Shared Folder

Be noted that such access is a relaxed access since both users will be able to perform same set of operations on the same Shared Folder. That means if you are the logical owner to the folder, the other party can also delete files and folders and make changes with same effective power as you are.

If you want to have much better access control of the folder, you will need to convert the folder into Microsoft Windows ACL

Once you do that, you will have more fine grain control over the permissions of the Shared Folders and even sub folders and files inside the Shared Folder.

Read more from here http://forum.synology.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_use_Windows_ACL_with_the_Synology_DiskStation

 

[Gribber]

before: 10MBps
after spending some $ & time and buying the switch: 100MBps

ya it's 10 times faster.



(my 1 cable can also 100MBps (pun intended))

Lol?
10chars

 

[LexenZ]

How do you determine that it was faster ? Since you have linked 4 LAN ports together to form a 4Gbps LAG bond channel, did your transfer of a single large file from your NAS to your system or from your system to your NAS becomes 4 times faster ?

Are you able to show any tests that you have did to confirm that ?

Oh I do! I used the NAS tester to test out before I purchased the switch and replaced my lousy lan cables
In the past when I transferred more than 200gb of data it took almost a day at 11mb/s

Before:

After:

Now i can transfer 500gb in less than 6 hours which i think is simple amazing and shocking in my opinion!

 

[LexenZ]

Hmm.. your home devices have 10Gbps or dual 1gbps card?

No idea what you meant by that.... but my motherboard supports gigabit connection and I'm using a gigabit router with cables that are at gigabit speeds.

Think that ought to suffice? Hahahah

 

[davidktw]

Oh I do! I used the NAS tester to test out before I purchased the switch and replaced my lousy lan cables
In the past when I transferred more than 200gb of data it took almost a day at 11mb/s

Before:

After:

Now i can transfer 500gb in less than 6 hours which i think is simple amazing and shocking in my opinion!

In the past, your 11MBps is due to your 100Mbps link.

If you do a simple calculation, you will find 100+MBps is equivalent to only 800+Mbps. That is the practical bandwidth of a single 1Gbps. That means your 4Gbps bond channel is never utilized. That also means the money you spent on getting a managed L2 switch is not utilised either.

There are 2 main reasons why it is so:

1. The connection between your system and the L2 switch is only a single 1Gbps ethernet cable. So your max bandwidth to the NAS will never exceed 1Gbps.
2. LAG doesn't distribute a single TCP/IP connection across the bond channel. At any one time, only 1 of the ethernet cable is carrying the data transmitted between the NAS and the L2 switch.

If you want to get a professional item, at least know where and how you get performance. Blindly going for such peripherals will not get the performance you hope for.

 

[LexenZ]

In the past, your 11MBps is due to your 100Mbps link.

If you do a simple calculation, you will find 100+MBps is equivalent to only 800+Mbps. That is the practical bandwidth of a single 1Gbps. That means your 4Gbps bond channel is never utilized. That also means the money you spent on getting a managed L2 switch is not utilised either.

There are 2 main reasons why it is so:

1. The connection between your system and the L2 switch is only a single 1Gbps ethernet cable. So your max bandwidth to the NAS will never exceed 1Gbps.
2. LAG doesn't distribute a single TCP/IP connection across the bond channel. At any one time, only 1 of the ethernet cable is carrying the data transmitted between the NAS and the L2 switch.

If you want to get a professional item, at least know where and how you get performance. Blindly going for such peripherals will not get the performance you hope for.

I get what you mean for such overspending. However I did get an slight increase in high capacity load transfer speed which I think its ok for me

Nevertheless I have no idea that there is a 10gbps which you are saying. Any further improvements to increase the speed even more?

 

[Gribber]

I get what you mean for such overspending. However I did get an slight increase in high capacity load transfer speed which I think its ok for me

Nevertheless I have no idea that there is a 10gbps which you are saying. Any further improvements to increase the speed even more?

Since it hv been explained I will not go further.

Well, faster speed = faster transfer rate.
You already noticed it from 100 to 1000. Double that 1000...

Based on what I could see from the pic, all you need is a single router to handle your connection. The switch is pretty redundant

 

[davidktw]

I get what you mean for such overspending. However I did get an slight increase in high capacity load transfer speed which I think its ok for me

Nevertheless I have no idea that there is a 10gbps which you are saying. Any further improvements to increase the speed even more?

The only approach in your single user scenario is MPIO. There is no other ways that I'm aware of. Even so, you will need bond channel between your L2 switch and your system to get better transfer rate. Also you will be using iSCSI instead of SMB/CIFS. That means you can't share your disks with more than 1 system.

Reference, go read my Post #27 @ http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/storage-clinic-119/need-nas-recommendation-4071349.html for more information about MPIO

Seriously, you probably don't need to go this route. I seriously don't understand for a normal consumer what is the need to drive high transfer bandwidth unless there is a commercial need for such performance. Hobby need a practical limit too

 

[Uno_Hu]

No. End-user can just access the files and folder as-is in the NAS. You don't have to explicitly copy it out to local machine before using it. All the data will be transfer between your application and the NAS over te network broker by the OS

How to create an identity for the remote user to access a folder?

 

[davidktw]

How to create an identity for the remote user to access a folder?

http://www.synology.com/en-global/support/tutorials/451