SATS Ltd *Official* (SGX: S58)

[Alphidius]

Recently acquired 40% stake in Adel Abuljadayel Flight Catering in Saud.
Today announced new South-East Asia's First Cruise-Fly Service with Royal Caribbean Cruises.

Source: Adel Stake & Cruise-Fly Service

Comments?
I told my mum to buy and she told me to queue but at a very very bad price...

 

[tkwei123]

my $0.02
this was basically an aviation (food catering) play but have diversified a bit from aviation by its purchase of SFI in 2009
dividend has been quite steady over the years... no big surprises.. current is 13c/yr
not much exciting price movement...
vested since ipo in 2000 at $2.50... pathetic capital gain for me...

 

[Alphidius]

my $0.02
this was basically an aviation (food catering) play but have diversified a bit from aviation by its purchase of SFI in 2009
dividend has been quite steady over the years... no big surprises.. current is 13c/yr
not much exciting price movement...
vested since ipo in 2000 at $2.50... pathetic capital gain for me...

Thanks for the advise.
My mum entered at $2.6 which is bad but it did climb up pretty high last year.
Can I asked what happened? The downtrend has been happening only the beginning of this year. Has it been like this all along?
Thanks.

 

[tkwei123]

Last quarter result showed the beginning of higher staff and raw material costs (food price inflation) affecting bottomline.
Also, in late 2010, it purchased TFK (ground-handler??) from JAL (Jap Air lines)... if u remember, JAL was in bad shape then... it looks like a great buy then and will help SATS to move into the Jap aviation market (zero presence previously).
And of course, we all know wat happen in Mar2011 in Tokyo..

 

[Alphidius]

Last quarter result showed the beginning of higher staff and raw material costs (food price inflation) affecting bottomline.
Also, in late 2010, it purchased TFK (ground-handler??) from JAL (Jap Air lines)... if u remember, JAL was in bad shape then... it looks like a great buy then and will help SATS to move into the Jap aviation market (zero presence previously).
And of course, we all know wat happen in Mar2011 in Tokyo..

Double alamak!!
No wonder the resistance keep breaking.
Only recently the price start to stabilise.
Thanks for the info & tips!

 

[tkwei123]

no probs
its just info... no tips involved

 

[Jarlaxle]

here

i think SATS got good trading opportunities

 

[Alphidius]

here

i think SATS got good trading opportunities

Thanks, bro!!
Do you use XpertTrader?

 

[Jarlaxle]

i tried...but i dun really like it
altho i think the screener is really useful

i tried shareinvestor as well, i tink it is more powerful but more ex too

as for SATS, from the chart perspective...... ignoring all these business aspects u guys discussed...
the trend is very predictable.... jzu need to take note when price nears the top and bottom resistance to make more from a breakup or down!

 

[Alphidius]

i tried...but i dun really like it
altho i think the screener is really useful

i tried shareinvestor as well, i tink it is more powerful but more ex too

as for SATS, from the chart perspective...... ignoring all these business aspects u guys discussed...
the trend is very predictable.... jzu need to take note when price nears the top and bottom resistance to make more from a breakup or down!

Ahh I see...
Yup, the trending is pretty obvious.
But I see MACD using 10,3... Why is that ar?
Usually 20,9 or somewhere around that range more accurate right?

 

[Jarlaxle]

actually it depends on ur average holding period
i target my holding period to be about 10 trading days or 2 weeks.
and reviewed every 3 to 5 days

so i used 10,3 instead of the usual. as it is more indicative of my trading preference.

accuracy-wise, there are tradeoff..... using 10,3, i will receive alot more false signals than 26,12 or 20,9 ,etc
but 26,12 or 20,9 will give u more accurate signals but it may be too late to react when u see the signal
so the tradeoff is between accuracy and profit

 

[Alphidius]

actually it depends on ur average holding period
i target my holding period to be about 10 trading days or 2 weeks.
and reviewed every 3 to 5 days

so i used 10,3 instead of the usual. as it is more indicative of my trading preference.

accuracy-wise, there are tradeoff..... using 10,3, i will receive alot more false signals than 26,12 or 20,9 ,etc
but 26,12 or 20,9 will give u more accurate signals but it may be too late to react when u see the signal
so the tradeoff is between accuracy and profit

Oic...
I'm a passive investor, so 20 trading days (aka 1 month) is more likely for me.
I don't really spot signals rather, I tend to see the trending of the counter and take a look at their financials & dividend yield instead.
Do you trade regularly or you just like to do TA for fun? Pardon my curiousity...

 

[Jarlaxle]

hahaha nt sure if 20 trading days is considered passive... some ppl here may disagree with u.

fundamentals are very important when assessing a stock especially if u want to buy it for long term. trend is equally useful as well...... u certainly do not want to go against a trend

however, even in an uptrend, there will be pullbacks along the way. if u look at a 200 periods of weekly chart, that's about 4 yrs. a short term pullback could last 3 to 6 months easily.
u certainly dun want to buy during this period. so i think TA is useful to time entry while FA is useful to assess the prospect of the company. different tools but can be used together.

not as regular as i want to. this month is very slow... i tink i only traded 4 times lol.
i dun have more than 4 different positions at any time.

for SATS, i did it for fun becoz of the posts here as i prefer to trade component stocks.
but now that i hv observed the trend, i will keep tab.
can consider to short when the price reaches the upper resistance level again. around 2.62 or so.

it has also consolidated for 3 months+, good for break out play as well

 

[Alphidius]

hahaha nt sure if 20 trading days is considered passive... some ppl here may disagree with u.

fundamentals are very important when assessing a stock especially if u want to buy it for long term. trend is equally useful as well...... u certainly do not want to go against a trend

however, even in an uptrend, there will be pullbacks along the way. if u look at a 200 periods of weekly chart, that's about 4 yrs. a short term pullback could last 3 to 6 months easily.
u certainly dun want to buy during this period. so i think TA is useful to time entry while FA is useful to assess the prospect of the company. different tools but can be used together.

not as regular as i want to. this month is very slow... i tink i only traded 4 times lol.
i dun have more than 4 different positions at any time.

for SATS, i did it for fun becoz of the posts here as i prefer to trade component stocks.
but now that i hv observed the trend, i will keep tab.
can consider to short when the price reaches the upper resistance level again. around 2.62 or so.

it has also consolidated for 3 months+, good for break out play as well

I see... Thanks for the chart...
Too busy to do TA for the past few months...
200d? I think 200d is really too slow liaoz... By the time you react using 200d, it might be too late...
I tend to use 20,9 or the default settings... Attended the CN course before but need to do some refresher to spot the trends and patterns...
Think this counter will go sideways for a few months... Let's see how this plays out after the elections...

 

[Jarlaxle]

well, 200 period MA is a very popular indicator that people use

 

[Paul Lee]

200 MA is not only a popular indicator but its a key indicator to indicate a reversal of the long term trend. A break below this line indicates the start of a downtrend and is usually an indication for me to exit the shares.

 

[Jarlaxle]

goldenagri
in this instance, i used it as support level

olam

in this instance, i used it as resistance level

these are 2 examples of 200MA that i applied to increase the chance of a profitable trade.

 

[Jarlaxle]

worth checking out for this week

SATS

 

[Wood4]

SATS

6 cts + 15 cts special dividend announced.
Total annual dividend 26 cts = about 10 % yield.

 

[Investor Reeve]

Is it good for them to pay more than the profit?