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Recently acquired 40% stake in Adel Abuljadayel Flight Catering in Saud.
Today announced new South-East Asia's First Cruise-Fly Service with Royal Caribbean Cruises.

Source: Adel Stake & Cruise-Fly Service

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I told my mum to buy and she told me to queue but at a very very bad price... :(
 

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my $0.02
this was basically an aviation (food catering) play but have diversified a bit from aviation by its purchase of SFI in 2009
dividend has been quite steady over the years... no big surprises.. current is 13c/yr
not much exciting price movement...
vested since ipo in 2000 at $2.50... pathetic capital gain for me...
 

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my $0.02
this was basically an aviation (food catering) play but have diversified a bit from aviation by its purchase of SFI in 2009
dividend has been quite steady over the years... no big surprises.. current is 13c/yr
not much exciting price movement...
vested since ipo in 2000 at $2.50... pathetic capital gain for me...

Thanks for the advise.
My mum entered at $2.6 which is bad but it did climb up pretty high last year.
Can I asked what happened? The downtrend has been happening only the beginning of this year. Has it been like this all along?
Thanks.
 

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Last quarter result showed the beginning of higher staff and raw material costs (food price inflation) affecting bottomline.
Also, in late 2010, it purchased TFK (ground-handler??) from JAL (Jap Air lines)... if u remember, JAL was in bad shape then... it looks like a great buy then and will help SATS to move into the Jap aviation market (zero presence previously).
And of course, we all know wat happen in Mar2011 in Tokyo.. :(
 

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Last quarter result showed the beginning of higher staff and raw material costs (food price inflation) affecting bottomline.
Also, in late 2010, it purchased TFK (ground-handler??) from JAL (Jap Air lines)... if u remember, JAL was in bad shape then... it looks like a great buy then and will help SATS to move into the Jap aviation market (zero presence previously).
And of course, we all know wat happen in Mar2011 in Tokyo.. :(

Double alamak!!
No wonder the resistance keep breaking. :(
Only recently the price start to stabilise.
Thanks for the info & tips! :)
 

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i tried...but i dun really like it
altho i think the screener is really useful

i tried shareinvestor as well, i tink it is more powerful but more ex too :(

as for SATS, from the chart perspective...... ignoring all these business aspects u guys discussed...
the trend is very predictable.... jzu need to take note when price nears the top and bottom resistance to make more from a breakup or down!
 

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i tried...but i dun really like it
altho i think the screener is really useful

i tried shareinvestor as well, i tink it is more powerful but more ex too :(

as for SATS, from the chart perspective...... ignoring all these business aspects u guys discussed...
the trend is very predictable.... jzu need to take note when price nears the top and bottom resistance to make more from a breakup or down!

Ahh I see...
Yup, the trending is pretty obvious.
But I see MACD using 10,3... Why is that ar?
Usually 20,9 or somewhere around that range more accurate right?
 

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actually it depends on ur average holding period
i target my holding period to be about 10 trading days or 2 weeks.
and reviewed every 3 to 5 days

so i used 10,3 instead of the usual. as it is more indicative of my trading preference.

accuracy-wise, there are tradeoff..... using 10,3, i will receive alot more false signals than 26,12 or 20,9 ,etc
but 26,12 or 20,9 will give u more accurate signals but it may be too late to react when u see the signal
so the tradeoff is between accuracy and profit
 

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actually it depends on ur average holding period
i target my holding period to be about 10 trading days or 2 weeks.
and reviewed every 3 to 5 days

so i used 10,3 instead of the usual. as it is more indicative of my trading preference.

accuracy-wise, there are tradeoff..... using 10,3, i will receive alot more false signals than 26,12 or 20,9 ,etc
but 26,12 or 20,9 will give u more accurate signals but it may be too late to react when u see the signal
so the tradeoff is between accuracy and profit

Oic...
I'm a passive investor, so 20 trading days (aka 1 month) is more likely for me.
I don't really spot signals rather, I tend to see the trending of the counter and take a look at their financials & dividend yield instead.
Do you trade regularly or you just like to do TA for fun? Pardon my curiousity... =:p
 

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hahaha nt sure if 20 trading days is considered passive... some ppl here may disagree with u.

fundamentals are very important when assessing a stock especially if u want to buy it for long term. trend is equally useful as well...... u certainly do not want to go against a trend

however, even in an uptrend, there will be pullbacks along the way. if u look at a 200 periods of weekly chart, that's about 4 yrs. a short term pullback could last 3 to 6 months easily.
u certainly dun want to buy during this period. so i think TA is useful to time entry while FA is useful to assess the prospect of the company. different tools but can be used together.

not as regular as i want to. this month is very slow... i tink i only traded 4 times lol.
i dun have more than 4 different positions at any time.

for SATS, i did it for fun becoz of the posts here as i prefer to trade component stocks.
but now that i hv observed the trend, i will keep tab.
can consider to short when the price reaches the upper resistance level again. around 2.62 or so.

it has also consolidated for 3 months+, good for break out play as well
 

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hahaha nt sure if 20 trading days is considered passive... some ppl here may disagree with u.

fundamentals are very important when assessing a stock especially if u want to buy it for long term. trend is equally useful as well...... u certainly do not want to go against a trend

however, even in an uptrend, there will be pullbacks along the way. if u look at a 200 periods of weekly chart, that's about 4 yrs. a short term pullback could last 3 to 6 months easily.
u certainly dun want to buy during this period. so i think TA is useful to time entry while FA is useful to assess the prospect of the company. different tools but can be used together.

not as regular as i want to. this month is very slow... i tink i only traded 4 times lol.
i dun have more than 4 different positions at any time.

for SATS, i did it for fun becoz of the posts here as i prefer to trade component stocks.
but now that i hv observed the trend, i will keep tab.
can consider to short when the price reaches the upper resistance level again. around 2.62 or so.

it has also consolidated for 3 months+, good for break out play as well

I see... Thanks for the chart...
Too busy to do TA for the past few months...
200d? I think 200d is really too slow liaoz... By the time you react using 200d, it might be too late... :s13:
I tend to use 20,9 or the default settings... Attended the CN course before but need to do some refresher to spot the trends and patterns... :s22:
Think this counter will go sideways for a few months... Let's see how this plays out after the elections...
 

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well, 200 period MA is a very popular indicator that people use
 

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200 MA is not only a popular indicator but its a key indicator to indicate a reversal of the long term trend. A break below this line indicates the start of a downtrend and is usually an indication for me to exit the shares.
 

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goldenagri
in this instance, i used it as support level

olam

in this instance, i used it as resistance level

these are 2 examples of 200MA that i applied to increase the chance of a profitable trade.
 

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SATS

6 cts + 15 cts special dividend announced.
Total annual dividend 26 cts = about 10 % yield.
 
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