Seeking networking advice

Bfrost

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Hello gurus! I've been learning a lot from you guys in this forum and have setup my current house's network based on some of your advice, especially @xiaofan 's! I'm unable to find the info in the forum, hence would like to solicit some advice regarding my networking plans.

I'm using Xiaomi's AX3600 and AX1800 currently, which when meshed, covers my 4rm HDB very well. But I'm moving into a resale EM soon, hence I'm thinking of the most effective (cost and coverage) way of networking, while waiting for >2.5gbp plans and Wifi 7 devices to become more common. I also do not want to have additional wiring all over the place (unable to concealed wiring and not doing false ceilings), and am trying to avoid having routers in the bedrooms.

I'm looking to do up pfSense, together with home automation as well (should be in separate devices).

Here's a rough sketch of my house's floor plan, as I don't have the final drawing ready, where C1 refers to a cabinet in L1, and C2 refers to a cabinet in L2. The Green/Blue boxes are where I think the routers can be (LAN points available there), and grey boxes will be LAN points as well.

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My expected networking route will be something like this:

(all "->" are wired connections)
ONT (C1)-> pfSense (C1)-> main router (C1) -- AX3600-> mesh router 1 ( green box in study) -- AX1800
-> Switch in (C2)-> mesh router 2 (green box in C2) -- AX3600 (?)

Now my problem is that at C2, I am not sure if a router like AX3600, which will be behind a cabinet door, will be sufficient to reach all 3 bedrooms. Can I consider that the main router and mesh router 1 which are just directly below BR1 and BR3, to cover these 2 rooms as well? Based on the rule of no more than 2 walls and 2 doors, this seems to be just enough? I do have network points in all 3 bedrooms, and in the worst case, I can put in an additional router like the AX1800 (if I can still find one) in Bedroom 3 (But I'm trying to avoid putting routers in a bedroom).

Alternatively I thought of using something like a PoE mesh for example, the Deco X50-PoE (more costly approach), but not sure if this will improve my earlier plan, other than having a "nicer" looking router outside of the cabinet.
ONT (C1)-> pfSense (C1)-> PoE Switch (C1)-> mesh router 1 (C1)
-> mesh router 2 @ study
-> mesh router 3 @ C2 (this could be wall mounted at the blue box)

Would like to seek advice on which option, in your opinion, would be the best, or if there are any better recommendations for my conundrum?

Thank you!
 

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@Bfrost

I will suggest you go with the first option to see how it goes.

Xiaomi AX3600 and Xiaomi AX1800 are old models and they are obsolete already. A very good replacement of Xiaomi AX3600 is Xiaomi BE7000.

The following is my reommendation. Worse case is to get one more node like low cost Xiaomi BE3600 in the future.

ONT (C1)-> pfSense (C1)-> main router (C1) -- Xiaomi BE7000-> mesh router 1 ( green box in study) -- AX1800
-> Switch in (C2)-> mesh router 2 (green box in C2) -- Xiaomi AX3600

Reference: my recommended China version of WiFi 7 router now (no 6GHz support, no 320MHz channel bandwidth support, with MLO and 4096 QAM support).
Xiaomi 10000 triband (dual 10G ports, maybe good for 10G plans): RMB1499
Xiaomi 7000 (quad 2.5G ports, good match for 2.5G plans): RMB799
Xiaomi 6500 Pro (quad 2.5G ports, good for 2.5G plans): RMB699
ZTE BE7200 Pro+ (中兴问天BE7200Pro+, dual 2.5G ports, good match for 2.5Gbps plans) RMB 599
TP-Link TL-7DR6560 BE6500 (quad 2.5G ports, good match for 2.5G plans), RMB 559

Reference: I do not recommend Xiaomi BE3600 as main router due to 256MB RAM, but it can be a good mesh node.
 

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Thanks @xiaofan !

Just wondering, would it be better if the BE7000 is used as the mesh node in C2? I'd imagine the signal would be stronger than the AX3600?
 

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Thank you! Have ordered the Xiaomi BE7000 for testing. Will report in the results after the move!
 

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Some updates from me after getting the BE7000.

Using the AX3600, I am unable to configure BE7000 as a mesh node. After trying out a few ways, finally settled that the BE7000 has to be the main node.

Configuring BE7000 behind pfSense as the DHCP server requires some manual configuration as well.

What I did (there could be more efficient ways but I just wanted to get it to work):
Reset BE7000, AX3600, AX1800 to factory settings (put them in close proximity).
Configure BE7000 using the initial setup interface connected via WiFi, to be setup as a router.
Once BE7000 is setup, login via the web interface, connect AX3600 and AX1800 as mesh nodes one at a time.
Once mesh network is setup, connect to pfSense and configure BE7000 into bridge mode.

So based on @xiaofan 's recommendation, this is the current network map.

ONT (C1)-> pfSense (C1)-> main router (C1) -- Xiaomi BE7000-> mesh router 1 ( green box in study) -- AX1800
-> mesh router 2 (green box in C2) -- Xiaomi AX3600

Will let the network settle down and then test out the speeds.

Thanks @xiaofan for the advice!
 

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Some updates from me after getting the BE7000.

Using the AX3600, I am unable to configure BE7000 as a mesh node. After trying out a few ways, finally settled that the BE7000 has to be the main node.

Configuring BE7000 behind pfSense as the DHCP server requires some manual configuration as well.

What I did (there could be more efficient ways but I just wanted to get it to work):
Reset BE7000, AX3600, AX1800 to factory settings (put them in close proximity).
Configure BE7000 using the initial setup interface connected via WiFi, to be setup as a router.
Once BE7000 is setup, login via the web interface, connect AX3600 and AX1800 as mesh nodes one at a time.
Once mesh network is setup, connect to pfSense and configure BE7000 into bridge mode.

So based on @xiaofan 's recommendation, this is the current network map.

ONT (C1)-> pfSense (C1)-> main router (C1) -- Xiaomi BE7000-> mesh router 1 ( green box in study) -- AX1800
-> mesh router 2 (green box in C2) -- Xiaomi AX3600

Will let the network settle down and then test out the speeds.

Thanks @xiaofan for the advice!
Would like to check if your mesh network is working well? Able to share the connectivity speeds?
 

Bfrost

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Would like to check if your mesh network is working well? Able to share the connectivity speeds?


Hi! Sorry hasn't been that active here recently and I just saw the question.

I have a 1 + 1 Gbps plan from M1, though I believe pfSense can only perform WAN load balancing rather than aggregation, so the max speed I can achieve is 1G.

I tested by turning on airplane mode, standing beside the router, turning wifi back on, then running speedtest via the speedtest app using a Pixel 10 Pro XL. The UL and DL speeds varies between 600-700 Mbps / 500-700 Mbps. Mesh works quite well my use case, though I don't do video calls while walking around the house, so I haven't tested if the connection is seamless.

The routers are quite stable, I only restart them every 2-3 months manually. But do note that the firmware of the routers have not been updated by XM for quite a while.

The only issue I have currently is that I don't see the main router on my ARP table, and there was an instance one of my devices got assigned the same IP as that router. Will have to tinker around to see how I can fix this.
 

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Hi! Sorry hasn't been that active here recently and I just saw the question.

I have a 1 + 1 Gbps plan from M1, though I believe pfSense can only perform WAN load balancing rather than aggregation, so the max speed I can achieve is 1G.

I tested by turning on airplane mode, standing beside the router, turning wifi back on, then running speedtest via the speedtest app using a Pixel 10 Pro XL. The UL and DL speeds varies between 600-700 Mbps / 500-700 Mbps. Mesh works quite well my use case, though I don't do video calls while walking around the house, so I haven't tested if the connection is seamless.

The routers are quite stable, I only restart them every 2-3 months manually. But do note that the firmware of the routers have not been updated by XM for quite a while.

The only issue I have currently is that I don't see the main router on my ARP table, and there was an instance one of my devices got assigned the same IP as that router. Will have to tinker around to see how I can fix this.


JUST a suggestion : might wana check Firewalla or Unifi products ...

just my throw away suggestion
 
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