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Hi all. I am approaching mid life career. Currently pretty stress out with my job as i am holding huge responsibility. My subordinates has been working quite a number of years but refuse to learn and make progress for themselves. Recently getting more rude and negative toward their simple task which i assign.

Should i make known to my boss about the actual issue or should i just leave the job and pursue new role ?

If i make known to my boss about this issue then my subordinates will probably ask to leave. I am afraid they might go jobless as unlikely will find another employment. They have families to feed. As for myself i am single and have enough saving to tide through.

Anyone care to share some experience and advices?
 

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Hi all. I am approaching mid life career. Currently pretty stress out with my job as i am holding huge responsibility. My subordinates has been working quite a number of years but refuse to learn and make progress for themselves. Recently getting more rude and negative toward their simple task which i assign.

Should i make known to my boss about the actual issue or should i just leave the job and pursue new role ?

If i make known to my boss about this issue then my subordinates will probably ask to leave. I am afraid they might go jobless as unlikely will find another employment. They have families to feed. As for myself i am single and have enough saving to tide through.

Anyone care to share some experience and advices?
**** them of cuz.

Give one last warning out of good faith and that's about it.

Care about your rice bowl first la
 

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worry for yourself before you start worrying about others
for all you know your boss might fire you instead of them since you can't even manage others as a people manager
If i report to my boss, he probably will get fire. As for my case i can still look out for job way easier than them. Just felt very black hearted if i do it like smash someone rich bowl with many mouth to feed. Really in dilemma.
 

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worry for yourself before you start worrying about others
for all you know your boss might fire you instead of them since you can't even manage others as a people manager
Plus one. Sounds like a troll thread :(
 

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Plus one. Sounds like a troll thread :(
Bro. Not troll thread. I am really in this situation. Those ppl i referring are in the age of 40+might not be able to find job outside..Thats why up till today i still didnt badmouth about them infront of my boss. It is these few years they become from bad to worse. Projects coming in and i need quality ppl to help.
 

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Hi all. I am approaching mid life career. Currently pretty stress out with my job as i am holding huge responsibility. My subordinates has been working quite a number of years but refuse to learn and make progress for themselves. Recently getting more rude and negative toward their simple task which i assign.

Should i make known to my boss about the actual issue or should i just leave the job and pursue new role ?

If i make known to my boss about this issue then my subordinates will probably ask to leave. I am afraid they might go jobless as unlikely will find another employment. They have families to feed. As for myself i am single and have enough saving to tide through.

Anyone care to share some experience and advices?
huai rike notch sho simpur thread harrr?!????!????? LOLLLOLL
 

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As a leader you should get the best out of your people.
I would work on them first.
If you leave, who is to say your replacement won't get rid of them?
Bro..perhaps I am too lenient..but they choose to be stress free type..not easy to force them to learn as learning need certain passion and hardwork.

心卵啊。that's y I curious what the majority will do instead..
 

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step 1: pull that person in for a 1-1 talk. make known if he continues like this, will give him warning letter.

step2: give warning letter

step 3: fire him
 

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step 1: pull that person in for a 1-1 talk. make known if he continues like this, will give him warning letter.

step2: give warning letter

step 3: fire him
I did told him about his problem. I even told him I willing to train him from scratch as his ability not good enough to handle..the response from him is don need to bother to train him as he won't stay in the company for long..but year after year still renewing his wp..

what I feel is he got no confident in handling the task so just avoid it in case he screw up the job and make known to my boss..
 

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I worked in an MNC that advocates growth, and prevents people from being set in a comfort zone.

When one person starts in his or her role, they work towards becoming an SME in their role. However, just because they are SMEs, doesn’t mean they are leaders. Some people are just good at what they do, but they cannot lead.

If you promote people based on time norm, they may end up in a situation like yours where your subordinates gets comfortable and rejects your authority to get work done. That’s where managers like yourself get confused to the point where you view loyalty to the firm as a reason to keep your subordinates that are not performing. In simple terms, you’re costing the firm money. So if you cannot manage your team, you cannot perform well, then you’re half way out the door too.

Take a stand and do what you’re paid to do. Send that subordinate ass out the door if he wants to cherry pick. Then he pays the price. Nothing personal. Just professionalism.
 

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Hi all. I am approaching mid life career. Currently pretty stress out with my job as i am holding huge responsibility. My subordinates has been working quite a number of years but refuse to learn and make progress for themselves. Recently getting more rude and negative toward their simple task which i assign.

Should i make known to my boss about the actual issue or should i just leave the job and pursue new role ?

If i make known to my boss about this issue then my subordinates will probably ask to leave. I am afraid they might go jobless as unlikely will find another employment. They have families to feed. As for myself i am single and have enough saving to tide through.

Anyone care to share some experience and advices?
Give them a chance and motivate them before drastic step

Normally if you talk to them one on one instead of together , they can change habits and attitudes
Find out what's grievances from them
Probably could be see no future in company for themselves

I thought you were asking for career advice for yourself
 

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Hi all. I am approaching mid life career. Currently pretty stress out with my job as i am holding huge responsibility. My subordinates has been working quite a number of years but refuse to learn and make progress for themselves. Recently getting more rude and negative toward their simple task which i assign.

Should i make known to my boss about the actual issue or should i just leave the job and pursue new role ?

If i make known to my boss about this issue then my subordinates will probably ask to leave. I am afraid they might go jobless as unlikely will find another employment. They have families to feed. As for myself i am single and have enough saving to tide through.

Anyone care to share some experience and advices?
Hi, i admire that you seem to genuinely care about your subordinates. I have some people management experience, here's my 2 cents.

Better to have heart to heart talk about the subordinate , give specific examples and make it clear that if he continues with such trajectory, he will loose his job. With his age and recession coming, won't be good for him.

In the same discussion, share what are the specific & quantifiable success criteria/goals he need to deliver and by when (timeline is super important), in order for him to save himself. Ask, what help does he need. After such discussion, he may start looking for another job or try to improve. On regular basis, revisit the goals with him again so both of you know what's the progress. But be fair too, if he met expectations then should let him stay.

Personally, i have let go several people in the past due to performance issues and indeed it felt cruel. But if their skillset/passion really doesn't match the job requirements, it's a drag for all parties.

Look at it this way, if you let him go, that means giving work opportunity for other job seeker.

Regarding you thinking of resigning, i suspect there are other contributing factors beyond the subordinate? Need some self reflection de, what do you actually want in life.

Do you have a passion project you want to work on outside work? Do you want to travel? Do you want higher pay & different settings? (Ps: I personally took 3 years career hiatus cause i want to take care of my kids.)

If your current company is still okay, can still progress in the next 5 years, then stay lah. Or at least only resign once you secure another job offer (might not as easy cause recession is coming, many coy has hiring freeze).

But whether you stay or resign, it should not be because of the subordinate. It has to be part of a bigger life plan that you have.

Hope that somewhat he helps.
 

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Give them a chance and motivate them before drastic step

Normally if you talk to them one on one instead of together , they can change habits and attitudes
Find out what's grievances from them
Probably could be see no future in company for themselves

I thought you were asking for career advice for yourself
What else.complain low salary why do so much..but I told them they agree on their salary then now bcos of the coy low balled them then I should not be their victim .. really no improvement.. knowledge stagnant and attitude turn worse..
 
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