Suggestions for working abroad

[Barryallen123]

Hi, my plan now is the get into a local uni either in engineering or criminology and the cert accredited is from their home campus example Glasgow or Liverpool since I'm only eyeing on sit. After completing the degree, should I work abroad instead of Singapore? I've always wanted to work abroad on my own and is the degree accredited to me good enough to work oversea? My plan is to work for a few good years then come back Sg and settle down. Anyone care to share experience? I have no idea how sit cert can help me get a job abroad. Thank you

 

[patryn33]

How would a paper help? You need to bring something special to the table.

Monitor U.K. Developments and their are agency there that may help. Be careful some place does scam ppl
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/jan/04/anxious-international-students-turn-away-from-uk

 

[bubblegumcartel]

To be honest, even if you studied on campus with these unis, you are very unlikely to get employment in the UK.

Maybe get a few years of experience first and see where that takes you...

 

[Barryallen123]

To be honest, even if you studied on campus with these unis, you are very unlikely to get employment in the UK.

Maybe get a few years of experience first and see where that takes you...

Not necessarily in the Uk. Anywhere as long as it's outside Sg. South Asia countries too like Hong Kong, Taiwan etc. But I think your suggestion is right. Get experience then try luck apply oversea

 

[jarvis]

The reality is that a lot of countries are not doing well so they have sufficient un/under-employment in their own country and the groundswell is moving towards protectionism so unless you have some skill that they don't otherwise have, they will usually hire locally because it is very difficult to get a work visa unless you have a skill set that is lacking there.

Also, if you're considering Europe, the pay is not high, especially once you factor tax in as well as cost of living in a major city. That's also one of the reasons why you have more and more expats coming to Singapore and then working on local packages.

Then you consider places like Taiwan. Pay in Taiwan is very very low and the economy is not doing well. I was told that a typical fresh grad starting salary is about SGD1k+. Recently Yang Ming announced massive pay cuts - 1st line managers 30% while executives 50% pay cut - and that saved them less than USD1m per year (if you google you will see the articles). That shows even the salaries at the top are not high.

 

[Barryallen123]

The reality is that a lot of countries are not doing well so they have sufficient un/under-employment in their own country and the groundswell is moving towards protectionism so unless you have some skill that they don't otherwise have, they will usually hire locally because it is very difficult to get a work visa unless you have a skill set that is lacking there.

Also, if you're considering Europe, the pay is not high, especially once you factor tax in as well as cost of living in a major city. That's also one of the reasons why you have more and more expats coming to Singapore and then working on local packages.

Then you consider places like Taiwan. Pay in Taiwan is very very low and the economy is not doing well. I was told that a typical fresh grad starting salary is about SGD1k+. Recently Yang Ming announced massive pay cuts - 1st line managers 30% while executives 50% pay cut - and that saved them less than USD1m per year (if you google you will see the articles). That shows even the salaries at the top are not high.

Wow.. I guess you're right. So you would suggest me to work in Sg first then see economy getting better then move out? I wouldn't mind if it's in the states too hahaha.

 

[patryn33]

Wow.. I guess you're right. So you would suggest me to work in Sg first then see economy getting better then move out? I wouldn't mind if it's in the states too hahaha.

No harm trying all the countries u interested.
Even if economy gets better, immigration law needs to welcome ppl like you.
You must have something unique to bring to the table, if they can find local talent why spend the $$ relocating you and sponsoring your visa.
In USA where applications is handle by company the fees involve is $10k or so. With today lottery system to get H1B staying up to 3 yrs not easy. I heard this yr over 200k vying for the limited 65k visa.

Developing countries such as Malaysia, Vietnam maybe easier. Big qns if they willing to pay and if u asking for that high $$

 

[jarvis]

There's plus and minus for everything and the factors change. What might be relevant today might have changed by the time you graduate. For that reason, we need to continuously evaluate and consider our choices - then weigh the pros and cons when making decisions, looking for opportunities, etc.

What might be a high priority for you might not be for others. At the end of the day, it's your decision and it will affect others around you.

 

[Henabi]

Hi, my plan now is the get into a local uni either in engineering or criminology and the cert accredited is from their home campus example Glasgow or Liverpool since I'm only eyeing on sit. After completing the degree, should I work abroad instead of Singapore? I've always wanted to work abroad on my own and is the degree accredited to me good enough to work oversea? My plan is to work for a few good years then come back Sg and settle down. Anyone care to share experience? I have no idea how sit cert can help me get a job abroad. Thank you

its not difficult to get national statistics from a few countries and see every year how many people graduate with Eng Degree. From there, you will get a very good gauge about the "Competition" and what you need to do in order to have that "competitive edge".

And I agree with what patryn33 said, "Unique skills".
Its not just that piece of Degree paper you will be holding. Its actually other area of skill sets.

"What other skills do you have?" Technical and/or soft skills

For Eng, which area of Engineering do you want to be specializing in?
- Common ones like Mech.Eng? Elec.Eng? Comp.Eng? Civil.Eng?
- Specialized ones like Geotech Eng, Environmental Eng? Sports Science Eng? Aeronautical Eng? BioTech Eng? Project Mgmt? Chemical Eng?

Would you want to consider adding some Business Management aspects to your Degree or consider a Double Major or Double Degree in Eng and Business?
How about adding a foreign language? Such as Japanese, French, Korean, German

Having the ability to speak a few more languages, other than Bahasa, English and Chinese, will open up a lot more career opportunities.

When it comes to career prospects after graduation, here are some things to consider:
- what is the local engineering industry moving away from in the next 5 to 10 years? And what areas are they moving into in the next 5 to 10 years?

Same question applies to overseas career prospects. Alot of 3rd world Asian countries are developing very quickly, countless infrastructure developments across their nations. But looking deeper again, its not difficult to see that alot of these countries are also very heavy into Manufacturing and Agriculture, with alot of foreign investments coming from countries like Japan, S.korea and China.

For a start, you can consider getting overseas internship or traineeship, and work your way up. Build up your credentials and achievements.

Then move on.