What is considered beating the red light?

[Philipkee]

If you have crossed the first set of lights at a junction and the lights turned red before you completed the crossing, should you stop before the second set of lights at the other end of the junction or just proceed?

For context, I am referring to the junction of woodlands ave 12 to SLE in the direction of BKE. Cars turn right from woodlands ave 12 to SLE up the filter lane

I notice sometimes some car will breakdown on the filter lane and cars turning right have to stop in between the first set of lights and the second set of lights as they try to wiggle past the broken down vehicle. Then the lights turn red, which means the green man will come on.

Some cars will still proceed (if there are no pedestrians) cos they are already mid junction. Some cars will just stop which means their boots will now go beyond the boundary of the yellow box and obstruct vehicles exiting the SLE to woodlands ave 12.

So who is right? Those who proceeded or those who stopped?

I remember BTT say once you cross the first set of traffic lights you cross the second set as well and not stop in the middle of the junction

 

[Philipkee]

If you were temporarily stopped in the red square and the lights turn red, stop or proceed?

 

[stingray1211]

please go and see where the sensors are. then think again


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[win_man]

i think have to stop or else behind camcar got evidence you beat red light and post in FB. If 20 years ago no carcam then i will beat. If you are the car driver that never check for space in front of you and proceed to get stuck in the yellow box then LLST and stuck there wait for ppl horn you liao

 

[Euqorab]

Choose the safest option

 

[Hyruga]

This one is sle to woodlands ave 12?. Or the other way?

 

[oddbasket]

Why even need to ask? If its red, you need to stop. You're not talking about getting caught in a junction's yellow box where then you should proceed, you're in a normal lane before the traffic light and stop line. If someone is stuck in the yellow box behind you and obstruct traffic, there's still no offence, you still need to stop even if you block him in the yellow box.

 

[drkcynic]

So many years of driving never encountered such a dilemma. Either cross 100% or don't cross.

I think TS over-think.

 

[ChenHoNam]

Approaching traffic light slow down bah.
Amber also slow down to stop.
why waste gas and chiong.
even worse endangering other motorists.

 

[lousydk]

\edit: i just went into google maps and took a closer look, it's really another set of traffic light junction with pedestrian crossing, even though it's really close to the 1st set of light, like that have to stop definitely when it's red

 

[begintoend]

have to stop
there is a crossing with lights

 

[archie7]

i will just cross or else blocking the way

 

[Tschuus]

TS is one of the reason why sinkies drivers are cmi. How do they even pass the theory tests?

 

[Mountainnodew]

Can only stop at the right lane. Left lane later got car want to turn in. Cannot beat red light, demerit points a lot.

 

[Mystyque]

If you were temporarily stopped in the red square and the lights turn red, stop or proceed?

of course is stop, red boxed area is not a junction, not blocking traffic if you stop in there.

 

[begintoend]

actually its the same as most expressway junctions.
Apart from the direct filtering out...
there will always be a 2nd set of lights for exiting from expressways into another main road
provided the 1st set turns red before the 2nd to ensure no jam to the junction for the next flow of traffic

 

[Xcert]

If you have crossed the first set of lights at a junction and the lights turned red before you completed the crossing, should you stop before the second set of lights at the other end of the junction or just proceed?

For context, I am referring to the junction of woodlands ave 12 to SLE in the direction of BKE. Cars turn right from woodlands ave 12 to SLE up the filter lane

I notice sometimes some car will breakdown on the filter lane and cars turning right have to stop in between the first set of lights and the second set of lights as they try to wiggle past the broken down vehicle. Then the lights turn red, which means the green man will come on.

Some cars will still proceed (if there are no pedestrians) cos they are already mid junction. Some cars will just stop which means their boots will now go beyond the boundary of the yellow box and obstruct vehicles exiting the SLE to woodlands ave 12.

So who is right? Those who proceeded or those who stopped?

I remember BTT say once you cross the first set of traffic lights you cross the second set as well and not stop in the middle of the junction

Must respect the traffic light...U cross the 2nd traffic light while it is red means U beat red light...simple as that.
U stop behind the traffic light...in front of the yellow box.
If the car behind get stuck in the yellow box as a result of your stopping....that is because the driver beh kan....never anticipate....nothing to do with U.

 

[Philipkee]

please go and see where the sensors are. then think again


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No sensors or camera there

 

[Philipkee]

Not been caught in this situation before but I would foresee that if I cross the first set of light at amber, I will have to stop at the second set of lights and from my observations, it’s an accident waiting to happen because people like to go fast cos it’s entering an expressway and if they assume it’s one junction, they won’t be expecting the first car to stop.

OTOH, maybe that’s why I saw some accidents at the junction recently

 

[starry_starry_night]

How come Iswaran got time to watch F1 go holidays with OBS but all these road conditions don't go improve to make it easier for road users?