Manchester United - Theatre of Dreams - - Part 26

[Gr3yham3]

Those ppl cheering at a player rebellion, you guys are nuts.

The players are plaid to be professional footballers, professionals meaning you are paid to do your freaking job. If you disagree with the manager and can't play to your best, get the hell out.

It is the job of the board and management to decide if the manager stays, not Ryan giggs back stabbing from the dug out.

To be honest I can't see what's the fanfare about mourinho, has anyone tried searching for Chelsea in the league table? Change is not always good.

there's no need to cheer a player rebellion, but if there's news of unhappiness, then surely LvG is not doing e right things?

if not mourinho, then who? giggs?? stick with LvG even with e 'performances' we have seen this season? mourinho's chelsea tis season is the first blip in his career, n i think there are some reasons as to why it happened (e physio thingy, roman's meddlings and that silly director of football) ...

i am not saying that jose is e messiah n THE ONE, but i really cant think of anyone else who is more suited to e job.. who knows we may even see a better mourinho if he has learned from his failings n has e backing of a stable board

 

[Gr3yham3]

woodward has made all the wrong "footballing" decisions including appointing the wrong managers, not sacking the manager timely when he doesn't perform. in addition to all the footballing negotiations have almost all failed badly, transfers in super high cost most never perform, transfers out all negligible fees when they could have got a fair amount of money out of those established internationals. All these are negative for the glazers profit.

well transfer targets are not chosen by him - he only tries his best to get e players that have been identified by e manager.. as for choosing the right managers, i dun think he had a choice with moyes, n a lot of ppl thought that LvG was e right choice at e time (i rmemeber RvP's "we'll be back, trust me" interview)...

transfers out? i think we got a pretty good price for most of them - dun forget many of these players were on high wages, n not many clubs will want to buy them if the xfer fees were high as well..

again, i am not saying woodward is e best chairman ever, but i think ppl have been clouded a little by e crap that we see on pitch, esp when they compared it to the buffet we saw when SAF was ard with david gill.. its all abt e context

 

[Asakura]

so who to blame for all these high wage offered?

3-5x or even more wage hike. like Ashley Young had when he extended.

we offered Pogba a miserable contract, gave Januzaj a crazy pay hike.

give Pereira miserable pay, then again gonna give Rashford some crazy hike.

 

[Shinji Kagawa]

God damn it Young. So hard to offload him in FM cause of his wages.

 

[micey84]

well transfer targets are not chosen by him - he only tries his best to get e players that have been identified by e manager.. as for choosing the right managers, i dun think he had a choice with moyes, n a lot of ppl thought that LvG was e right choice at e time (i rmemeber RvP's "we'll be back, trust me" interview)...

transfers out? i think we got a pretty good price for most of them - dun forget many of these players were on high wages, n not many clubs will want to buy them if the xfer fees were high as well..

again, i am not saying woodward is e best chairman ever, but i think ppl have been clouded a little by e crap that we see on pitch, esp when they compared it to the buffet we saw when SAF was ard with david gill.. its all abt e context

The point is he`s always been carrot head by all the other teams like a robert. Even those have not made it youngsters are being quoted at above 50 million, which other club in the world will pay ridiculous amount for average players with potential like Renato Sanches, Felipe Anderson. For those who have came, Fellaini fee is a rip off, so does Mata, Herrera. Even Martial fee is a ripoff in today's context.

On the other hand, established internationals who ah gaal moyes didnt like were disposed like a clearance sale. Kagawa n Hernandez 7 million each, Nani n Evans 5 million each, Welbeck 15 million. They are not on high wages all about 60-70k per week except for nani after contract extension. Can't remember who gave him the extension but don't even give chance for him to play

 

[YorYor]

That has been United 90% of the time. The other 10% were names like OGS... and no more. Make that 98% and 2% then. CristianoR is probably the only player to have donned the jersey, gave the club some good returns on the pitch, and made a profit for us. Mikel doesn't count cause he never donned the jersey.

 

[Adi Dassler]

City and RM through to the semis

 

[Genesisz]

I agree with this. The club does not have many choices.

I reiterate again that Giggs is no Pep Guardiola.

if not mourinho, then who? giggs?? stick with LvG even with e 'performances' we have seen this season? mourinho's chelsea tis season is the first blip in his career, n i think there are some reasons as to why it happened (e physio thingy, roman's meddlings and that silly director of football) ...

i am not saying that jose is e messiah n THE ONE, but i really cant think of anyone else who is more suited to e job.. who knows we may even see a better mourinho if he has learned from his failings n has e backing of a stable board

 

[fat_boyz]

Still dun understand why young is play as a striker. Why??

 

[stam]

I agree with this. The club does not have many choices.

I reiterate again that Giggs is no Pep Guardiola.

Yes, and man utd is not barca too. No strong foundation to rely on... No Messi...

This is a rebuilding job... Sure need some one with more experience

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[sCuzzZy]

#matchday

 

[reddevil82]

Yes, and man utd is not barca too. No strong foundation to rely on... No Messi...

This is a rebuilding job... Sure need some one with more experience

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as long as we dun need another 26 years...

 

[runforyourlife]

Giggs is working his magic. Smarter this time, gek gek pretend pretend, office politics lumber huan

 

[reddevil82]

Giggs is working his magic. Smarter this time, gek gek pretend pretend, office politics lumber huan

Would be nice to see him cameo for last few games like post-Moyes again...

 

[ragnarok95]

To be honest I can't see what's the fanfare about mourinho, has anyone tried searching for Chelsea in the league table? Change is not always good.

Because jose have something to prove and LVG none. You think LVG cares? Even if next season he put us in 16th position, it doesn't affect his CR anymore because he doesn't need that anymore. After with us he is going into background work, you think he still cares??

Jose still have many yrs of management infront of him.

 

[fat_boyz]

Yes. The key is the consistent XI.

Just take a look at Leicester City and you will know.

Ranieri was previously known as the tinkerman in Chelsea....... it proves you shouldn't stick to your philosophy but should change and adapt to different teams and situations.

 

[Asakura]

im sure van Gaal will enjoying walking away from the football scene as a failure
a big one.
that's why he came here on a mission to destroy United that's hated by all, so now he'll be loved by many.

Because jose have something to prove and LVG none. You think LVG cares? Even if next season he put us in 16th position, it doesn't affect his CR anymore because he doesn't need that anymore. After with us he is going into background work, you think he still cares??

Jose still have many yrs of management infront of him.

 

[WhiteHunter]

Because jose have something to prove and LVG none. You think LVG cares? Even if next season he put us in 16th position, it doesn't affect his CR anymore because he doesn't need that anymore. After with us he is going into background work, you think he still cares??

Jose still have many yrs of management infront of him.

quite true. lvg already bought a villa in portugal and want to retire there. jose want to prove to chelsea that sacking him twice is their biggest mistake.

 

[runforyourlife]

Ranieri was previously known as the tinkerman in Chelsea....... it proves you shouldn't stick to your philosophy but should change and adapt to different teams and situations.

That's also the reason he got kicked out of Chelsea Its a fact. Just so happen that fans tend to see the good in others only when own team loses.

 

[Gr3yham3]

so who to blame for all these high wage offered?

3-5x or even more wage hike. like Ashley Young had when he extended.

we offered Pogba a miserable contract, gave Januzaj a crazy pay hike.

give Pereira miserable pay, then again gonna give Rashford some crazy hike.

i am pretty sure e manager was e one who decided who needs to sign a new contract or not.. not woodward's call to decide who signs, stays or goes.. back when januzaj signed his new contract, everyone was praising e club as we managed to get one of our talents to be with us for a long time... not woodward's fault that januzaj has fallen out of favour with e current manager or not shown his true form this season..

also, dun think many players will accept a "lower salary" when signing a new contract.. and then there are other contracts like DDG signing his new one this season - is that a mistake too?

The point is he`s always been carrot head by all the other teams like a robert. Even those have not made it youngsters are being quoted at above 50 million, which other club in the world will pay ridiculous amount for average players with potential like Renato Sanches, Felipe Anderson. For those who have came, Fellaini fee is a rip off, so does Mata, Herrera. Even Martial fee is a ripoff in today's context.

On the other hand, established internationals who ah gaal moyes didnt like were disposed like a clearance sale. Kagawa n Hernandez 7 million each, Nani n Evans 5 million each, Welbeck 15 million. They are not on high wages all about 60-70k per week except for nani after contract extension. Can't remember who gave him the extension but don't even give chance for him to play

e overall prices of players in football have always been going up exponentially with e staggering amount of revenue that clubs can generate, so no surprise at the prices.. besides our splurge on martial (whose fee has a lot of performance related clauses), our purchases in e last transfer window all seemed to be quite reasonable when they were made.. italian n argentina FBs for 12 n 16m each? schweinsteiger for 7m? dutch POTY for 20m? soton's most impt player for 28m? all were okay prices.. again, whether they are living up to that price tag now is not woodward's fault

herrera was a release clause, so no choice .. n i think he is worth e money, provided that e manager trusts him.. mata was a despo buy by moyes to save our season.. i still believe that fellaini (and that entire transfer window) was a mess due to moyes' dithering (he die die wanted both baines and fellaini)

i was unhappy with woodward too at first, but after reading more about the situation, e more i am convinced most of e things ppl accuse him of doing wrong of are not his fault

as for e selling, we have never been a buy low sell high club - any players who e manager deems as extra we will help them to move on without much fuss.. imagine if we insisted on 20m for nani - no club would want to buy him n LvG wont play him, so we will have him sulking on e bench for most of e season

im sure van Gaal will enjoying walking away from the football scene as a failure
a big one.
that's why he came here on a mission to destroy United that's hated by all, so now he'll be loved by many.

i dun think its to tat extent la, but cannot deny that mourinho has more to lose n more to prove as manager.. i know that LvG wont want to walk away from e game as a failure , but i think he has tried his best but it is just not working for everyone at the moment