>80% of NSmen are actually physically UNFIT for reservist military training/war.

[cherry6]

Reservist outfield military training should focus more on safety first.

The >60% who are excused IPPT should be tested in some other way (swimming/ cycling options as are available to regular servicemen). With so many Singaporeans suffering from diabetes and the like and dropping dead @ work etc, all persons doing any outfield training should undergo a medical examination etc before ICT, the equivalent as if they were required to perform the IPPT test: otherwise it is only commonsense to permanently by default excuse them from running, marching, jumping, heavy loads since their physical fitness for reservist outfield activities is effectively suspect, dubious /unknown.

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>80% of NSmen are actually physically UNFIT for reservist military training/war...
(<20% NSmen actually manage to pass physical fitness test; >50% NSmen so terribly disabled/ infirm, they are excused from taking physical fitness test in SAF of any kind (no modified fitness options available (swimming, cycling etc) either)).

Operationally-ready national servicemen (NSmen) running as part of IPPT Preparatory Training (IPT) programme in Maju Camp on Sept 8, 2014. -- ST PHOTO: ONG WEE JIN -

Calculation:
'300,000-plus operationally ready national servicemen (NSmen) who form the backbone of the SAF': [SAF bends and stretches over IPPT: My Paper; 01Jul2014]

'...Individual Physical Proficiency Test (IPPT)... ...The 2010 figures from the Ministry of Defence - the most recent available - showed that half of the 116,000 NSmen who take the test annually fail it.' [Tougher penalties for NSmen who skip IPPT; ST 31Oct2014]

% of all NSmen who are able to achieve minimum pass @ IPPT =
[(116,000/2) / 300,000+] = <<19.33333%
Or much less than 20% considering that denominator is in excess of 300,000 personnel.

% of all 'operationally ready' NSmen who are actually medically fit to take IPPT=
116,000 / 300,000 = <38.666%
Less than 40% NSmen are physically (medically) fit enough to qualify for IPPT testing to have their fitness recorded and computed annually.

 

[cherry6]

Dear mod, pls change title heading to Reservist outfield military training should focus more on safety first.

 

[KirinFrost]

Lol wat.... so many fat fugs in sg?

Jialat... like that even sg girls need to be conscripted liao

 

[Starbarks!]

Lol wat.... so many fat fugs in sg?

Jialat... like that even sg girls need to be conscripted liao

Fat fugs??

 

[cherry6]

Lol wat.... so many fat fugs in sg?
Jialat... like that even sg girls need to be conscripted liao

They should give a more dignified reward for passing IPPT (compensate for the disciplined, healthy and fit lifestyle needed to pass/ace IPPT) and DOUBLE the award quantum (to $1000 for gold etc).

Dignity by PAP standards is defined along the following mercenary line, although the true effect of increased physical fitness amongst SAF reservists would be greater respect from rival armed forces as well as wannabe terrorist since more SAF reservist can actually be relied upon to carry the gun and run (at least 2.4km or more):

"If the annual salary of the Minister of Information, Communication and Arts is only $500,000, it may pose some problems when he discuss policies with media CEOs who earn millions of dollars because they need not listen to the minister's ideas and proposals. Hence, a reasonable payout will help to maintain a bit of dignity."
- MP Lim Wee Kiak apologises for comments on pay

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[siaokia2806]

They should give a more dignified reward for passing IPPT (compensate for the disciplined, healthy and fit lifestyle needed to pass/ace IPPT) and DOUBLE the award quantum (to $1000 for gold etc).

Dignity by PAP standards is defined along the following mercenary line, although the true effect of increased physical fitness amongst SAF reservists would be greater respect from rival armed forces as well as wannabe terrorist since more SAF reservist can actually be relied upon to carry the gun and run (at least 2.4km or more):

"If the annual salary of the Minister of Information, Communication and Arts is only $500,000, it may pose some problems when he discuss policies with media CEOs who earn millions of dollars because they need not listen to the minister's ideas and proposals. Hence, a reasonable payout will help to maintain a bit of dignity."
- MP Lim Wee Kiak apologises for comments on pay

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Lol my passive income is already 3k plus per month by doing nothing why would I do ippt for 1k?

 

[cherry6]

Lol my passive income is already 3k plus per month by doing nothing why would I do ippt for 1k?

I am just thinking that IPPT incentive awards should be DOUBLED immediately to $1000 for gold.
The reasons are 2fold:
Firstly, to improve the effectiveness, readiness and capability of NSmen to effectively defend Singapore when called upon rather than report sick or suffer chest pains. 18+% physical fitness for an army is a big disgrace and at least 50% of ALL reservist should pass some form of physical fitness assessment appropriate for their condition /age.

Each Singaporean NSmen is a future potential frail senior costing by estimates USD$38k p.a. individually in healthcare costs or S$66billion p.a. as a nation.
A good IPPT result will most likely delay frailness in old age, thus in a meritocratic system, evidence of effort and good lifestyle habits ought to be rewarded.

You are however welcomed to suggest another award quantum with the context of the a/m objectives in mind.
Pls be informed that as the gahmen budget to subsidise healthcare for frail seniors is increased, your taxes (property, wealth,GST, medishield-life premiums, compulsory eldershield (kiv)) may significantly erode your passive income in time to come or inflate your expenses concurrently.

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U]Elderly health costs to rise tenfold by 2030: Report[/U]
The findings on elderly healthcare costs could influence government policies and decisions on healthcare infrastructure spending as well as personal insurance and retirement planning.

The findings on elderly healthcare costs could influence government policies and decisions on healthcare infrastructure spending as well as personal insurance and retirement planning.PHOTO: TIFFANY GOH FOR THE STRAITS TIMES
PUBLISHED AUG 25, 2016, 5:00 AM SGT
Each senior in S'pore will need average of $51k a year, the highest figure in Asia-Pacific
Janice Tai
Elderly healthcare costs in Singapore are projected to rise tenfold over the next 15 years to more than US$49 billion ($66 billion) annually, according to a report.
This means an average of US$37,427 will be spent on healthcare for each elderly person by 2030. This is the highest in the Asia-Pacific region, just ahead of Australia.
The report was released yesterday at the launch of Marsh & McLennan Companies' new Asia-Pacific Risk Centre, which is supported by the Economic Development Board. The firm provides professional services such as risk management.
The US$49 billion figure was derived by taking into consideration demographic changes, long-term care costs and medical cost inflation. It includes public expenditure, private insurance and out-of-pocket spending.
The report estimated that US$5 billion was spent on healthcare for the elderly last year as a senior citizen's healthcare expenditure is estimated to be four times that of an average person's. By 2030, the healthcare expenditure for each senior is estimated to rise from US$8,196 in 2015 to US$37,427.

MODEST ESTIMATE
It's a conservative estimate given that the numbers do not take into account indirect costs, such as transport, and opportunity costs from caregivers' time... It also assumes that we have the same ready access to cheap foreign labour which may not be the case in the future.
DR JEREMY LIM, a partner in Oliver Wyman global health practice, on the findings.
"It's a conservative estimate given that the numbers do not take into account indirect costs, such as transport, and opportunity costs from caregivers' time," said Dr Jeremy Lim, a partner in Oliver Wyman global health practice.
"It also assumes that we have the same ready access to cheap foreign labour which may not be the case in the future."
Dr Ng Wai Chong, chief of clinical affairs at Tsao Foundation, agreed. He felt the figures might even be an underestimate if the current health and social care systems are not improved and people do not manage their own health more proactively.
Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam said last year that healthcare spending in Singapore is expected to rise from over $9 billion last year to over $13 billion in 2020.
These are just public expenditure figures, the Ministry of Finance confirmed yesterday.
The implications of these new numbers are wide-ranging, said Mr Wolfram Hedrich, executive director of the Asia-Pacific Risk Centre.
"Our findings will influence government policies and decisions on healthcare infrastructure spending. Individuals need to carefully consider how well-prepared they are to fund their retirement healthcare needs, especially given the limited range of affordable insurance products," he said.
Dr Lim said the proposed review of ElderShield - announced during last Sunday's National Day Rally - is timely as it covers only the severely disabled and the payout is modest.
"We can also look at other new solutions such as having reverse mortgage schemes to allow people to monetise their housing assets to pay for healthcare when they are old or allowing the use of MediShield and Medisave overseas if their price points are lower," he added.
Dr Ng said there is a "keen awareness of the risk of rising healthcare costs at the government, community and personal levels".

When asked for its comments on the report, which it received yesterday, the Ministry of Health said it is studying it and will respond at a later time.

Marsh & McLennan Companies has four operating firms - insurance-broking and risk-management firms Marsh and Guy Carpenter as well as consulting firms Mercer and Oliver Wyman
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/elderly-health-costs-to-rise-tenfold-by-2030-report

 

[reddevil0728]

I am just thinking that IPPT incentive awards should be DOUBLED immediately to $1000 for gold.
The reasons are 2fold:
Firstly, to improve the effectiveness, readiness and capability of NSmen to effectively defend Singapore when called upon rather than report sick or suffer chest pains. 18+% physical fitness for an army is a big disgrace and at least 50% of ALL reservist should pass some form of physical fitness assessment appropriate for their condition /age.

Each Singaporean NSmen is a future potential frail senior costing by estimates USD$38k p.a. individually in healthcare costs or S$66billion p.a. as a nation.
A good IPPT result will most likely delay frailness in old age, thus in a meritocratic system, evidence of effort and good lifestyle habits ought to be rewarded.

You are however welcomed to suggest another award quantum with the context of the a/m objectives in mind.
Pls be informed that as the gahmen budget to subsidise healthcare for frail seniors is increased, your taxes (property, wealth,GST, medishield-life premiums, compulsory eldershield (kiv)) may significantly erode your passive income in time to come or inflate your expenses concurrently.

========
U]Elderly health costs to rise tenfold by 2030: Report[/U]
The findings on elderly healthcare costs could influence government policies and decisions on healthcare infrastructure spending as well as personal insurance and retirement planning.

The findings on elderly healthcare costs could influence government policies and decisions on healthcare infrastructure spending as well as personal insurance and retirement planning.PHOTO: TIFFANY GOH FOR THE STRAITS TIMES
PUBLISHED AUG 25, 2016, 5:00 AM SGT
Each senior in S'pore will need average of $51k a year, the highest figure in Asia-Pacific
Janice Tai
Elderly healthcare costs in Singapore are projected to rise tenfold over the next 15 years to more than US$49 billion ($66 billion) annually, according to a report.
This means an average of US$37,427 will be spent on healthcare for each elderly person by 2030. This is the highest in the Asia-Pacific region, just ahead of Australia.
The report was released yesterday at the launch of Marsh & McLennan Companies' new Asia-Pacific Risk Centre, which is supported by the Economic Development Board. The firm provides professional services such as risk management.
The US$49 billion figure was derived by taking into consideration demographic changes, long-term care costs and medical cost inflation. It includes public expenditure, private insurance and out-of-pocket spending.
The report estimated that US$5 billion was spent on healthcare for the elderly last year as a senior citizen's healthcare expenditure is estimated to be four times that of an average person's. By 2030, the healthcare expenditure for each senior is estimated to rise from US$8,196 in 2015 to US$37,427.

MODEST ESTIMATE
It's a conservative estimate given that the numbers do not take into account indirect costs, such as transport, and opportunity costs from caregivers' time... It also assumes that we have the same ready access to cheap foreign labour which may not be the case in the future.
DR JEREMY LIM, a partner in Oliver Wyman global health practice, on the findings.
"It's a conservative estimate given that the numbers do not take into account indirect costs, such as transport, and opportunity costs from caregivers' time," said Dr Jeremy Lim, a partner in Oliver Wyman global health practice.
"It also assumes that we have the same ready access to cheap foreign labour which may not be the case in the future."
Dr Ng Wai Chong, chief of clinical affairs at Tsao Foundation, agreed. He felt the figures might even be an underestimate if the current health and social care systems are not improved and people do not manage their own health more proactively.
Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam said last year that healthcare spending in Singapore is expected to rise from over $9 billion last year to over $13 billion in 2020.
These are just public expenditure figures, the Ministry of Finance confirmed yesterday.
The implications of these new numbers are wide-ranging, said Mr Wolfram Hedrich, executive director of the Asia-Pacific Risk Centre.
"Our findings will influence government policies and decisions on healthcare infrastructure spending. Individuals need to carefully consider how well-prepared they are to fund their retirement healthcare needs, especially given the limited range of affordable insurance products," he said.
Dr Lim said the proposed review of ElderShield - announced during last Sunday's National Day Rally - is timely as it covers only the severely disabled and the payout is modest.
"We can also look at other new solutions such as having reverse mortgage schemes to allow people to monetise their housing assets to pay for healthcare when they are old or allowing the use of MediShield and Medisave overseas if their price points are lower," he added.
Dr Ng said there is a "keen awareness of the risk of rising healthcare costs at the government, community and personal levels".

When asked for its comments on the report, which it received yesterday, the Ministry of Health said it is studying it and will respond at a later time.

Marsh & McLennan Companies has four operating firms - insurance-broking and risk-management firms Marsh and Guy Carpenter as well as consulting firms Mercer and Oliver Wyman
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/elderly-health-costs-to-rise-tenfold-by-2030-report

eh why u so free?

 

[derrickgoh]

TS so free should go volunteer with MINDEF.

 

[o0squiggle0o]

When you are not being paid well, not even for 1k, your gov doesn't love and care about you. Of course you will keng and bo chap.

 

[Tombstonewan]

It's sad sometimes you'll find Some PES E NSMEN are so much fitter than those PES B who are struggling to clear IPPT.

 

[reddevil0728]

It's sad sometimes you'll find Some PES E NSMEN are so much fitter than those PES B who are struggling to clear IPPT.

Because medical fitness and physical fitness is different

 

[derrickgoh]

It's sad sometimes you'll find Some PES E NSMEN are so much fitter than those PES B who are struggling to clear IPPT.

If they are really so fit then obviously they are ****** chao keng kings thats why they got PES E

 

[reddevil0728]

If they are really so fit then obviously they are ****** chao keng kings thats why they got PES E

i give you an example of what's the difference between medically fit and physically fit.

A swimmer that is blind in one eye is physically fit but medically unfit.

See the difference?

 

[Kyoji83]

Actually last time my taekwondo instructor is PES E. He is physically fit but mentally unfit.

 

[numbers]

i know a few pro athletes when they enlist is actually PES C. U know why? the MO detect heart flutters, faster downgrade them. they scared anything happen to them then MO will kena big time. Now is different from last time. MO detect small small thing will downgrade, if not later parents family all sue when the kid die

 

[Kyoji83]

Cause MO do not feel that it is worth to risk their practicing certificate for the sack of NSF compare to their opportunity cost.

i know a few pro athletes when they enlist is actually PES C. U know why? the MO detect heart flutters, faster downgrade them. they scared anything happen to them then MO will kena big time. Now is different from last time. MO detect small small thing will downgrade, if not later parents family all sue when the kid die

 

[reddevil0728]

Cause MO do not feel that it is worth to risk their practicing certificate for the sack of NSF compare to their opportunity cost.

sack??????????

 

[Kyoji83]

Sorry, error.

The correct word is sake.

sack??????????

 

[Shananarocks]

Sure boh? I think many reservists are quite fit leh, at least those I see running in the stadium.

The >60% who are excused IPPT should be tested in some other way (swimming/ cycling options as are available to regular servicemen). With so many Singaporeans suffering from diabetes and the like and dropping dead @ work etc, all persons doing any outfield training should undergo a medical examination etc before ICT, the equivalent as if they were required to perform the IPPT test: otherwise it is only commonsense to permanently by default excuse them from running, marching, jumping, heavy loads since their physical fitness for reservist outfield activities is effectively suspect, dubious /unknown.

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>80% of NSmen are actually physically UNFIT for reservist military training/war...
(<20% NSmen actually manage to pass physical fitness test; >50% NSmen so terribly disabled/ infirm, they are excused from taking physical fitness test in SAF of any kind (no modified fitness options available (swimming, cycling etc) either)).

Operationally-ready national servicemen (NSmen) running as part of IPPT Preparatory Training (IPT) programme in Maju Camp on Sept 8, 2014. -- ST PHOTO: ONG WEE JIN -

Calculation:
'300,000-plus operationally ready national servicemen (NSmen) who form the backbone of the SAF': [SAF bends and stretches over IPPT: My Paper; 01Jul2014]

'...Individual Physical Proficiency Test (IPPT)... ...The 2010 figures from the Ministry of Defence - the most recent available - showed that half of the 116,000 NSmen who take the test annually fail it.' [Tougher penalties for NSmen who skip IPPT; ST 31Oct2014]

% of all NSmen who are able to achieve minimum pass @ IPPT =
[(116,000/2) / 300,000+] = <<19.33333%
Or much less than 20% considering that denominator is in excess of 300,000 personnel.

% of all 'operationally ready' NSmen who are actually medically fit to take IPPT=
116,000 / 300,000 = <38.666%
Less than 40% NSmen are physically (medically) fit enough to qualify for IPPT testing to have their fitness recorded and computed annually.