4K Monitor: Work using 4K 60Hz, Play using 1080P 120Hz?

[darkarn]

Just wondering, when using a 4K monitor, is it possible and optimal to work (e.g. coding, Excel, media editing) in 4K 60Hz while playing in 1080P 120/144 Hz?

Or is it better to do all of these in a 1440P 120Hz monitor?

I am asking as I am using a 1080P 60Hz monitor and am considering an upgrade to just a bigger and higher resolution monitor instead of going for a multi monitor setup.

Thanks!

 

[ZrE0_Cha0s]

Which 4k monitor have this kind of features??

 

[xonix]

Perhaps buy a 1440p monitor with either g sync or free sync instead ?
Is 4K a mandatory requirement ?

it's technically possible to do so but can you tolerate the scaling image quality when gaming @ 1080p ?

 

[darkarn]

Which 4k monitor have this kind of features??

From what I understand, you can do this (changing resolution and refresh rate) in the OS and program (e.g. game settings) being used

I just want to know whether the 4K monitors allow such settings, and whether the experience will be acceptable or not

Perhaps buy a 1440p monitor with either g sync or free sync instead ?
Is 4K a mandatory requirement ?

it's technically possible to do so but can you tolerate the scaling image quality when gaming @ 1080p ?

I want a 4K (or anything higher than 1080P) monitor as I want more working space, I find 1080P to be a little limiting

Also, with the advent of 4K devices like the Apple TV 4K, I thought why not if the price is right?

But at the same time, I understand that 4K gaming (or even some content?) can be quite taxing on the hardware, which is why I want to see what alternatives/workarounds are there and hence my question.

Thanks for pointing out about the scaling issue, this is something I can start searching with.

 

[singupingu]

I think what you're looking at is ultrawide like Predator X34 or Prism+ X340. 3k (3440x1440) 100hz. Plenty of working space, optional high hz gaming. Not sure about the Predator, Prism+ X340 can downscale to 1080p and do 144hz with the right cable that support the refresh rate and resolution.

So far haven't seen any 4k 60hz which can do 1080p 144hz for the moment

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[xonix]

From what I understand, you can do this (changing resolution and refresh rate) in the OS and program (e.g. game settings) being used

I just want to know whether the 4K monitors allow such settings, and whether the experience will be acceptable or not



I want a 4K (or anything higher than 1080P) monitor as I want more working space, I find 1080P to be a little limiting

Also, with the advent of 4K devices like the Apple TV 4K, I thought why not if the price is right?

But at the same time, I understand that 4K gaming (or even some content?) can be quite taxing on the hardware, which is why I want to see what alternatives/workarounds are there and hence my question.

Thanks for pointing out about the scaling issue, this is something I can start searching with.

Theoretically, 4K is the perfect resolution for downscaling to 1080p. Because 1 x 4K is equivalent to 4 x 1080p screens. But current scaling methods do not take advantage of this.

 

[darkarn]

I think what you're looking at is ultrawide like Predator X34 or Prism+ X340. 3k (3440x1440) 100hz. Plenty of working space, optional high hz gaming. Not sure about the Predator, Prism+ X340 can downscale to 1080p and do 144hz with the right cable that support the refresh rate and resolution.

So far haven't seen any 4k 60hz which can do 1080p 144hz for the moment

Sent from PM me if you wanna build a DIY PC or wanna learn how to make one yourself using GAGT

I saw these models but they are curved screens which I am trying to avoid

Are there 4K 60Hz that can do at least 1080P 100Hz?

Theoretically, 4K is the perfect resolution for downscaling to 1080p. Because 1 x 4K is equivalent to 4 x 1080p screens. But current scaling methods do not take advantage of this.

That's what I thought too but I need to know how does this transfer to real world applications

 

[lexmarq]

I saw these models but they are curved screens which I am trying to avoid

Are there 4K 60Hz that can do at least 1080P 100Hz?



That's what I thought too but I need to know how does this transfer to real world applications

Don't think there are any 4K monitors on sale that can go beyond 60 Hz at the moment. So even if you scale down to 1080o or 1440p, you will still be stuck at 60hz.

I believe Asus is releasing a 4K 144hz monitor in the near future which you may consider. You will be able to use use that at 4K 60hz or 4K 144Hz and downscale at 1080p 144hz as required. Just take note that it won't be cheap.

 

[darkarn]

Don't think there are any 4K monitors on sale that can go beyond 60 Hz at the moment. So even if you scale down to 1080o or 1440p, you will still be stuck at 60hz.

I believe Asus is releasing a 4K 144hz monitor in the near future which you may consider. You will be able to use use that at 4K 60hz or 4K 144Hz and downscale at 1080p 144hz as required. Just take note that it won't be cheap.

Ah I see, I have a 1080P screen that does 60Hz at 1080P but 75Hz at lower resolution, that's why I thought there are 4K 60Hz screens that can do 1080P at higher refresh rates

Looks like either need to wait + save up like mad, or just settle for a 1440P screen?

 

[enenyi]

Ah I see, I have a 1080P screen that does 60Hz at 1080P but 75Hz at lower resolution, that's why I thought there are 4K 60Hz screens that can do 1080P at higher refresh rates

Looks like either need to wait + save up like mad, or just settle for a 1440P screen?

Why do u need 144Hz?

144Hz monitors will benefit games like CS but does not much benefit to other games like Battlefield 1. And it is better to have 2 monitors for 2 different purposes rather than 1 monitor for everything.

And by the way, gaming on 1080p on a 4k monitor is horrible. Tried that, minimum need 1440p to feel not so pixelated. It's the same feeling u get by trying to game on 720p on a 1440p monitor, or game on 480p on a 1080p monitor.

 

[darkarn]

Why do u need 144Hz?

144Hz monitors will benefit games like CS but does not much benefit to other games like Battlefield 1. And it is better to have 2 monitors for 2 different purposes rather than 1 monitor for everything.

And by the way, gaming on 1080p on a 4k monitor is horrible. Tried that, minimum need 1440p to feel not so pixelated. It's the same feeling u get by trying to game on 720p on a 1440p monitor, or game on 480p on a 1080p monitor.

I heard about these 144Hz monitors and how well they are against motion blur (which is one of the many reasons why I can get sick at times) and thought that it may be good to have one I guess lol

I did seriously consider getting (and have already tested actually) different monitors for different purposes though but it will be quite cramped on my workspace (unless I get those smaller monitors?) and won't work well if want to use speakers (due to placement issues). But why would BF1 not benefit from 144Hz? I thought all FPSes will benefit from that?

Thanks for the heads up on the pixelation, that's something I will keep in mind too

 

[xonix]

I heard about these 144Hz monitors and how well they are against motion blur (which is one of the many reasons why I can get sick at times) and thought that it may be good to have one I guess lol

I did seriously consider getting (and have already tested actually) different monitors for different purposes though but it will be quite cramped on my workspace (unless I get those smaller monitors?) and won't work well if want to use speakers (due to placement issues). But why would BF1 not benefit from 144Hz? I thought all FPSes will benefit from that?

Thanks for the heads up on the pixelation, that's something I will keep in mind too

For some games, they are capped at 60 fps for example. No benefit from higher refresh rate, though I'm not aware of such limitation for BF1.

 

[enenyi]

For some games, they are capped at 60 fps for example. No benefit from higher refresh rate, though I'm not aware of such limitation for BF1.

Why use 144Hz monitor when most multiplayer servers capped at 30Hz or 60Hz? Unless playing single player mode lor.

 

[darkarn]

For some games, they are capped at 60 fps for example. No benefit from higher refresh rate, though I'm not aware of such limitation for BF1.

Whoa, I didn't know most games are still at 60 fps instead of say 120 or even no caps

Why use 144Hz monitor when most multiplayer servers capped at 30Hz or 60Hz? Unless playing single player mode lor.

Ah I see (30 Hz is quite low though), I didn't think about that...

Am I right to say that I should be focusing more on the response rate rather than a 144Hz display?

 

[Godeau]

I heard about these 144Hz monitors and how well they are against motion blur (which is one of the many reasons why I can get sick at times) and thought that it may be good to have one I guess lol

Sorry to burst your bubble but if you're suffering from some form of motion sickness from playing fps games, having a higher refresh rate will not help at all.

 

[darkarn]

Sorry to burst your bubble but if you're suffering from some form of motion sickness from playing fps games, having a higher refresh rate will not help at all.

Thanks, maybe I was really too focused on the refresh rate after all. Am I right to say that then in this case, none of the newer tech seen in the monitors (e.g. better G2G rates, less motion blurring, higher refresh rates) will help for motion sickness?

 

[Godeau]

Thanks, maybe I was really too focused on the refresh rate after all. Am I right to say that then in this case, none of the newer tech seen in the monitors (e.g. better G2G rates, less motion blurring, higher refresh rates) will help for motion sickness?

Those that you mentioned does not impact much towards inflicting motion sickness, maybe by a long shot, only motion blurring. But even so, motion blurring/ghosting from monitor refresh rate isn't as prominent as compared to something like a 'motion blurring' or a 'screen shake' ingame setting for certain games.

I too have motion sickness as well. I tend to stay away from fps games, and try my best to adjust fov settings for games that could be adjusted. To me, that is one of the key reasons why motion sickness is happening.

Edit:
To answer your question, you will probably still suffer from motion sickness on a 144hz as you would on 60hz.

 

[enenyi]

Ah I see (30 Hz is quite low though), I didn't think about that...

Am I right to say that I should be focusing more on the response rate rather than a 144Hz display?

Instead, focus on your non-gaming needs (photo/video editing, coding, etc). Get a monitor with better out-of-the-box color accuracy so that you do not need to waste time colour calibrating for photo editing needs. See if you want 27" or 32", depending on your space concerns. If 27", can get the Dell U2718Q or LG 27UD88. If 32", can get the BenQ BL320PT or wait for the LG 32UD99 to arrive.

 

[darkarn]

Those that you mentioned does not impact much towards inflicting motion sickness, maybe by a long shot, only motion blurring. But even so, motion blurring/ghosting from monitor refresh rate isn't as prominent as compared to something like a 'motion blurring' or a 'screen shake' ingame setting for certain games.

I too have motion sickness as well. I tend to stay away from fps games, and try my best to adjust fov settings for games that could be adjusted. To me, that is one of the key reasons why motion sickness is happening.

Edit:
To answer your question, you will probably still suffer from motion sickness on a 144hz as you would on 60hz.

Ah, I see, had to ask as I saw some websites talking about motion blurring and how newer monitors supposedly lower it and was wondering about it.

Thanks for confirming about this from your experience, must have been a bummer to having to miss out on the newer FPSes!

Instead, focus on your non-gaming needs (photo/video editing, coding, etc). Get a monitor with better out-of-the-box color accuracy so that you do not need to waste time colour calibrating for photo editing needs. See if you want 27" or 32", depending on your space concerns. If 27", can get the Dell U2718Q or LG 27UD88. If 32", can get the BenQ BL320PT or wait for the LG 32UD99 to arrive.

Good point, I just thought that I can get some gaming-friendly features while settling these non-gaming needs (i.e. me being greedy ).

Thanks for the recommendations, now checking my table space to see what size I can go for (am using 22" currently)