[Official] 韓 國 瑜 Kaohsiung(高雄) city mayor candidate

[Clopixol]

after the KS mayor debate ish really 50/50 liao, very close match.

han performance in the debate ish less than expectations. like i said earlier in other posts, when his ideas were put under close examination, they are actually quite difficult to achieve, or even next to impossible. cqm ish gong gong very reserved very distant from ppl, but at least he did his homework and ish quite familiar with govt procedures. thats why ppl kept bombarding his earphone issue, suspect that his team ish helping him cheat in the debate. his performance ish better than expected in the debate.

CQM will win. Unfortunate for HGY (actually RED, his supportors are backed by China PRC), the golden cross-over in poll had occured.

Taiwanese are very smart electorates, no sinkie 70%. DPP manage to pull the story of HGY linked to PRC.

The turnout will not translate into votes for HGY.

Anyway, turnout at CQM is higher.......... HGY site is smaller in all 3 nights (still waiting for CQM last night this weekend).
How do i know the turnout for HGY will not turn into votes? By looking at the language used during the rally.
CQM uses 70-80% Taiwan-dialect.....his audience is from KaoShiung,the artists sang in dialect.....
For HGY, he uses 80-90% Mandarin, why, his audience at from the northern Taiwan, his songs are sung in Mandarin. We know his turnout at rally were those who were disgrunted by Miss Tsai pension reformation.

Yes, CQM will win.

 

[Shion]

CQM will win. Unfortunate for HGY (actually RED, his supportors are backed by China PRC), the golden cross-over in poll had occured.

Taiwanese are very smart electorates, no sinkie 70%. DPP manage to pull the story of HGY linked to PRC.

The turnout will not translate into votes for HGY.

Anyway, turnout at CQM is higher.......... HGY site is smaller in all 3 nights (still waiting for CQM last night this weekend).
How do i know the turnout for HGY will not turn into votes? By looking at the language used during the rally.
CQM uses 70-80% Taiwan-dialect.....his audience is from KaoShiung,the artists sang in dialect.....
For HGY, he uses 80-90% Mandarin, why, his audience at from the northern Taiwan, his songs are sung in Mandarin. We know his turnout at rally were those who were disgrunted by Miss Tsai pension reformation.

Yes, CQM will win.

Interesting observation

 

[Clopixol]

taipei elections fever ish basically set by KP. he chiong, everyone will chiong. he cool, everyone cool.

other candidates got nothing on the table. all they do ish following KP ard and kaopeh him every chance. ie mudslinging.

his idea ish to keep the effects of elections to lowest, not to affect everyday life. just come out to vote on the actual day.

he thinks that spending big money in elections ish giving rich ppl opportunity to donate to political parties, and the winning guy cant say no to rich ppl demands later on.

Not quite...
If you talk about the CLOSING-poll (taiwan law, as of 15 nov, no polls result to be mentioned), KP vs TTing is very close.

Xiao Ye 小野 shot a pro-CQM video under famous directors.... successfully dented KP's support.

KP was WHITE (pro-green) in 2014........ (depends on your view) some think he is RED now (the deep green is fiercely against), some think he is still white (but not pro-green, this is the view of Bad-English and pale-Green). Indeed, DPP is split now (as seen as the two rally, the HAPPY ISLAND喜樂島 rally in taipei vs DPP official rally in KaoShiung, think 28-oct(?).

Xiao Ye successfully also split the supporters of KP and HGY, initially both appeared to have large overlap. After Xiao Ye's video, HGY supporters become suspicious of KP, thinking KP is behind the video to support CQM.
You can see PRC-CCP support for KP also somewhat withdrawn in support for HGY. PRC-CCP is financially supporting HGY, even blind person can see that.........

 

[Clopixol]

KP siding with green camp.. sibei obvious liao

Nothing further from the truth.

KP is either RED or white (no longer siding green), see my post above.,

 

[Clopixol]

He's not siding with DPP lah... both green and blue are attacking him...

Yes, and if my reading of their polls and politics is correct, KP will not win. It is back to Blue vs. Green 藍綠對決. Now, after xiao ye's video, the light-blue fraction of KP's supporter all return to TT (歸隊), that is why (ponpokku thought) KP's recent friendliness towards the green, hoping to strengthen the light-green fraction of his supporter.....

The issue is, will DPP manage to make the light-green return (歸隊), and 3-sided contest, KP has no party support.... you can see his only rally with very poor turn-out.....and he is being boo by the elderly because KP cut off their pocket money (老年慰問金).

 

[Clopixol]

he did the most work compared to all other mayors, completed the most promises he made, and repaid the most debts. he didnt fulfill all his promises, but whatever he did, already put all mayors in the last 16yrs to shame.

and he done it in just 4yrs.

re-route taipei traffic/road system and set up dedicated pedestrian walkway, reduce taipei road accident death by 50% in 3 yrs. in 2017 taipei has the least accident deaths and injuries in the last 50yrs.

pushed forward construction of 19000+ public housing, with 2000+ already completed. the last mayor only complete 200+ in 8yrs. KP planned to push for 50000 public housing if he wins 2nd term, and effectively curb housing prices in taipei.

reduced taipei debts by 30% in 3 yrs, from 150+bil to 90+bil. interest paid every yr reduced from 2.7bil/yr to 0.7bil/yr, got more money for public works. all other taiwanese cities and counties ish heavily in debt, no.1 being kaohsiung with 300bil debt, only taipei under KP reduced significantly.

zero corruption case in govt projects during his term, zero officials sacked becos of corruption, zero scandals. cleanest mayor ever. becos of his efficiency and transparent governance, taipei attracted the most investments in 2017, 29.9 bil, #1 in taiwan. this yr ish expected to reach ~40bil, again #1, and next yr 50+ bil with the completion of his various city redevelopment projects, again #1.

demolished various slums that has been around from 30-48yrs, and relocate the residents with high satisfactory ratings, where all the previous mayors promised during elections but failed to accomplish. created the most parks, gardens and nature reserves during his office term.

1280ntd mthly concession pass for everyone, 300+ meal sharing spots for old ppl all over taipei, for them to gather, exercise and take care of each other while their kids go to work. numourous daycare centers for old folks and kiddos.

everyday start work from 7.30am to 10pm, 24/7, in the last 3+yrs. no time for family.

plus many many minor achievements.

and he done all these with all the green and blue MPs sabo-ing him on almost everything, without incurring new debts, but repaid 54bil debts instead.

there ish no reason not to choose him.

Don't quite agree...... it is achieved through accounting procedure and some sale of land.

Also about the Taipei-Stadium, his cahoot with Yuan-Xiong through his nurse (cai bi ru)....... KP hides a lot of truth.

Don't get me start on the ECMO scandal.........

 

[VEF888]

Both parties can't make it.

Every four years, the other party elected to power, citizens hoping for a miracle but same old issues.

 

[firebear]

Don't quite agree...... it is achieved through accounting procedure and some sale of land.

Also about the Taipei-Stadium, his cahoot with Yuan-Xiong through his nurse (cai bi ru)....... KP hides a lot of truth.

Don't get me start on the ECMO scandal.........

"Ko’s claims were over-embellished, Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Taipei mayoral candidate Ting Shou-chung (丁守中) said on Friday, adding that Ko had used money budgeted for important public infrastructure to repay debt, thus hurting the city’s competitiveness.

The city government led by former Taipei mayor Hau Long-bin (郝龍斌) handed over a surplus of about NT$23.1 billion, Ting said."

below another one, more details

https://buzzorange.com/2018/06/04/taipei-debt-issue/

don't just listen to Ko ****.

 

[P R N D]

Ke P won't win liao.
Ke P wife and mother shoot Yao mother. Yao cried and said how much he in debt due to this election.

Yao green & light green vote will be back.

Han and xiao ye will help Ding to bring back blue and light blue vote.

Ke P in danger. He can only depend on youngster voters 20-40 but then Taipei old flolks is greater than any cities which will not vote for Ke P due to removing of old people 年金。

Taipei is blue camp majority.

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[Vader]

大家還是選民族進步黨的。有誰會選非高雄人來管制高雄。選不是高雄人進來等下燒肉飯也會變了樣。

11-24, 民進黨勝！

 

[BeHappyLo]

Cai left with less than 30% poll support.
CQM is her protege not HuaMa’s choice during prelim party elections.
Han will win astoundingly
高雄人穷怕了

 

[BeHappyLo]

KP will win by narrow margin because of 弃保效应

 

[Clopixol]

https://www.facebook.com/setnews.newtaiwan/videos/256171891741657/

 

[Clopixol]

https://www.setn.com/News.aspx?News...oBIBF3nDCWI5lttSXkH5oC456iVYcrlcUI7AJ0R0WBxyk

A lot of people (not from KaoShiung) go to HGY's rally, audience cannot translate into votes (we sinkies should know this phenomenon well).

But the continuous non-stop 24 hours broadcast of HGY's rally crowd, overdoing it, is going to alert and motivate the DPP's supporters to come on election day to cast their vote.
In TW, voting is not compulsory, it is crucial that the party can make their supporters to come out to vote.......

HGY had a slight disadvantage, his supporters are younger and away from KaoShiung, may not go back.... historically, younger electorates has lower voting rates....

CQM's supporters tend to be local and older, more convenient to vote.

陳其邁陣營，在兩人對戰之初佔有相當大的優勢，因此原本定調打「緊盯戰法」，韓國瑜在哪辦一場，陳其邁就跟進辦一場，藍綠相互拼場，韓國瑜辦一場2萬人，陳其邁就辦一場2萬以上的場。

陳其邁的戰法太過保守，讓綠軍一路挨打，不過，「成也韓國瑜，敗也韓國瑜」，當韓國瑜的韓流產生外溢效應，激起綠營支持者的危機感，再加上韓粉操作過頭，也讓不少淺綠支持者回流陳其邁。

以韓國瑜之友會三山造勢晚會來看，首場的鳳山登陸造勢，讓陳其邁陣營嚇出一身冷汗，但第二場韓國瑜深入綠營票倉的夜襲旗山造勢，讓陳其邁陣營有點不知如何面對，但陳其邁臉書在晚會當下湧入3千多私訊，顯見支持者已有焦慮，讓陳其邁陣營鬆了一大口氣。

韓國瑜之友會原本規劃鳳山、旗山、岡山分別要舉辦1、1、2萬人造勢晚會，但首場鳳山已爆滿，日前的挺進岡山造勢，韓國瑜陣營喊出10萬人，已經直逼大岡山地區的總人口數，可見大多絕非當地人。

根據主辦單位的規劃，動員約1至2萬人是高雄在地人，加上捷運與火車的運量分別約1至2萬人，加上附近居民，6、7萬人已經達到緊繃。然而，這些「韓粉」的組成，以反年改的退休軍公教系統為主力，很多人是從鳳山場就開始，一連到旗山、岡山場都無役不與。

 

[dambio]

KP will win by narrow margin because of 弃保效应

Depends on whether ppl still wanna buy his wayang

 

[Vader]

Go back for 燒肉飯。
Voting is secondary.

 

[dambio]

https://www.setn.com/News.aspx?News...oBIBF3nDCWI5lttSXkH5oC456iVYcrlcUI7AJ0R0WBxyk

A lot of people (not from KaoShiung) go to HGY's rally, audience cannot translate into votes (we sinkies should know this phenomenon well).

But the continuous non-stop 24 hours broadcast of HGY's rally crowd, overdoing it, is going to alert and motivate the DPP's supporters to come on election day to cast their vote.
In TW, voting is not compulsory, it is crucial that the party can make their supporters to come out to vote.......

HGY had a slight disadvantage, his supporters are younger and away from KaoShiung, may not go back.... historically, younger electorates has lower voting rates....

CQM's supporters tend to be local and older, more convenient to vote.

陳其邁陣營，在兩人對戰之初佔有相當大的優勢，因此原本定調打「緊盯戰法」，韓國瑜在哪辦一場，陳其邁就跟進辦一場，藍綠相互拼場，韓國瑜辦一場2萬人，陳其邁就辦一場2萬以上的場。

陳其邁的戰法太過保守，讓綠軍一路挨打，不過，「成也韓國瑜，敗也韓國瑜」，當韓國瑜的韓流產生外溢效應，激起綠營支持者的危機感，再加上韓粉操作過頭，也讓不少淺綠支持者回流陳其邁。

以韓國瑜之友會三山造勢晚會來看，首場的鳳山登陸造勢，讓陳其邁陣營嚇出一身冷汗，但第二場韓國瑜深入綠營票倉的夜襲旗山造勢，讓陳其邁陣營有點不知如何面對，但陳其邁臉書在晚會當下湧入3千多私訊，顯見支持者已有焦慮，讓陳其邁陣營鬆了一大口氣。

韓國瑜之友會原本規劃鳳山、旗山、岡山分別要舉辦1、1、2萬人造勢晚會，但首場鳳山已爆滿，日前的挺進岡山造勢，韓國瑜陣營喊出10萬人，已經直逼大岡山地區的總人口數，可見大多絕非當地人。

根據主辦單位的規劃，動員約1至2萬人是高雄在地人，加上捷運與火車的運量分別約1至2萬人，加上附近居民，6、7萬人已經達到緊繃。然而，這些「韓粉」的組成，以反年改的退休軍公教系統為主力，很多人是從鳳山場就開始，一連到旗山、岡山場都無役不與。

Well...there r alr rumours that d ruling dpp will use dirty tactics to hinder those north drifters from going back to vote.

 

[ponpokku]

Don't quite agree...... it is achieved through accounting procedure and some sale of land.

Also about the Taipei-Stadium, his cahoot with Yuan-Xiong through his nurse (cai bi ru)....... KP hides a lot of truth.

Don't get me start on the ECMO scandal.........

when stupid ppl bring in ECMO scandal, immediately can skip liao.

ECMO scandal ish the line btw normal ppl and dumb ppl.

both KMT (pre 2016) and DPP (present) central govts all called for a stop on all allegations on ECMO scandal now, only some deep blue and deep green idiots kept talking about it and eventually lost all supporters.

 

[dambio]

大家還是選民族進步黨的。有誰會選非高雄人來管制高雄。選不是高雄人進來等下燒肉飯也會變了樣。

11-24, 民進黨勝！

谢长廷和陈菊也不是高雄人啊

 

[P R N D]

大家還是選民族進步黨的。有誰會選非高雄人來管制高雄。選不是高雄人進來等下燒肉飯也會變了樣。

11-24, 民進黨勝！

民进党不是高雄人的爸爸，为何每次都要投民进党？

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