[Official] 韓 國 瑜 Kaohsiung(高雄) city mayor candidate

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Ironically, hgy is popular now because people see him as a kmt outcast. He is following kp's way and people are tired of blue vs green

But in what way is he a kmt outcast? Did he expressed anything fundamentally different from what others in kmt are?
 

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But in what way is he a kmt outcast? Did he expressed anything fundamentally different from what others in kmt are?

He's not really that different from rest of KMT, he was outcast because he was in a weaker faction of KMT that got played out. that it.
 

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He's not really that different from rest of KMT, he was outcast because he was in a weaker faction of KMT that got played out. that it.
That's why can see he is quite dulan. Kh election he try distant himself from kmt and try to use the honest approach
 

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He's not really that different from rest of KMT, he was outcast because he was in a weaker faction of KMT that got played out. that it.

Got anything special or Refreshing about his faction?

Actually I do hope that kmt can transform. It cannot remain drawn along racial line and only seeks to protect the interest of a small community over the majority. That’s divisive and have to stop one day.
 

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Got anything special or Refreshing about his faction?

Actually I do hope that kmt can transform. It cannot remain drawn along racial line and only seeks to protect the interest of a small community over the majority. That’s divisive and have to stop one day.
If hgy is the hgy what he is trying to sell and he manage to be kmt chairman then maybe that will happen. Otherwise there will be no change
 

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If hgy is the hgy what he is trying to sell and he manage to be kmt chairman then maybe that will happen. Otherwise there will be no change

I think it will take another generation
 

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I think it will take another generation
If kp and hgy both win then maybe there will be some change. It will prove tw people already sick off blue vs green and something new may emerge
 

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That's why can see he is quite dulan. Kh election he try distant himself from kmt and try to use the honest approach

But it doesn’t change the way some of his supporters are. In a thread that is praising him all the way and yet I also see a thread full of smearing, be it personal attacks on any forumer or on the candidates. I just see a glaring irony.

but whoever wins, that is democracy and the will of their residents. I will keep a watch out for this guy. I admit I haven’t seen anything in particular great about him yet but I think we should take time to know a person
 

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But it doesn’t change the way some of his supporters are. In a thread that is praising him all the way and yet I also see a thread full of smearing, be it personal attacks on any forumer or on the candidates. I just see a glaring irony.

but whoever wins, that is democracy and the will of their residents. I will keep a watch out for this guy. I admit I haven’t seen anything in particular great about him yet but I think we should take time to know a person
True but that's the best hope. Got hope better than no hope. If kp and hgy really win then 2020 election may be fun
 

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From a Singapore KeP fan ...


( 新加坡[某網友]於FB網頁留言 )
♧♧♧♧♧♧♧♧♧♧♧♧♧♧♧
市長好,我不知道
你是不是會真的看到我這些話。
我是新加坡人,看到你說,要超越新加坡時,我感覺汗顏。
因為有你,台北已經遠遠超越新加坡了。
我說的,不是蓋多少建築,拼多少經濟,
而是你的存在,
激起了人民為自己作主的意識和希望,
擺脫政黨的惡鬥,不再淪為工具籌碼。
這才是最了不起的,這才是人類的進步。

新加坡還做不到,
也許在我有生之年,看不到民主。
這裡一黨獨裁,不可能會出現一個柯P。

我挺的,不只是你,
而是人類的自省自覺和進步。
台北不能失去你。
也許,我不夠了解台灣政壇的具體細節,
但政治操作,是全世界共通的語言。

台灣的內在複雜,我也許不懂。
但,人類的困境,我懂。
官官相護,我懂。
權力惡鬥,我懂。
殲滅異己,我懂。
欺善怕惡,我懂。
是非黑白,我懂。
這些,不限台北台灣,
這些是全世界,任何國家,百姓共同的困境。

任何政治人物,
都和全世界的變動,息息相關。
台北不能失去你。
台北不能失去你。
台北不能失去你。
因為太重要,要講第四次 ~
台北,真的不能失去你。
其實,任何一個國家要向前走,
都不能失去他們的柯P。

阿北,祝福你。
打一場無愧於良心的戰,動搖不了核心的戰。
我明天要飛過去,給你加油。
就算被嗆聲,你外人懂個屁,
哈哈,我懂該懂的,但你呢?

台北,不能失去你,
正如世界,不能失去心存善念的人。

市長,加油!❤️

- 給阿北的line情書
 

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But in what way is he a kmt outcast? Did he expressed anything fundamentally different from what others in kmt are?

KMT politician ish generally more elitist lah, look down on those hokkien peng.

han himself ish from the grey zone, 黑白兩道都混過. he belonged to the 2nd gen KMT offsprings, grew up from their 眷村 or mainlanders' community, but not in the upper echelon. these mainland ppl and their offsprings a lot became triad members and boss (that 白狼 ish good example), others join politics making use of their parents' influence.

so unlike the elitist upper echelon, han knows more about how to play brother-brother with the lower social class ppl. his character oso very different from the stoney type like myj, he ish more flexible, and very hardworking becos he ish not elite background.

during his office term at 北農, althou he knew nothing about agriculture products and sales initially, he spent long hrs on the ground to learn the trade, basically sleep over in the office. in the end he mastered it and make money for everyone. in this aspect he ish very similar to KP, look into details, personally learn the trade, and make the best out of it. he ish also fair and 講義氣, he reward his own ppl generously. KP on the other hand ish more on discipline, he will reward justly but not overly generous. the technical type. thats why han kena targeted by DPP becos his generousity invite jealousy from green camp. KP didnt kena any major corruption accusation becos he got discipline and cover backside properly, reward within the red line.

the diff btw them ish KP ish smarter, pinpoint problem faster thru logical deduction, and use more systematic approach (his SOP). han ish more on learning thru experience and mistakes, prolly less from theory. KP might not know the issues deep enuff, but he can usually spot the problems early by just looking at numbers and then find the logical correlation/trend with the problems.
 
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Ironically I think what tw need is 一黨獨裁. People has to put their bet on one side. The correct side.

this ish already a no go when lee tenghui open up general elections. that ish basically a social revolution.

social revolution ish generally irreversible and permanent. just like ppl wont go back to monarchy.
 

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this ish already a no go when lee tenghui open up general elections. that ish basically a social revolution.

social revolution ish generally irreversible and permanent. just like ppl wont go back to monarchy.
People can vote and they need to vote wisely. They don't need everyone, just majority
 

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No one notice this paragraph...

I agree ...
這裡不可能會出現一個柯P...


因為有你,台北已經遠遠超越新加坡了。
我說的,不是蓋多少建築,拼多少經濟,
而是你的存在,
激起了人民為自己作主的意識和希望,
擺脫政黨的惡鬥,不再淪為工具籌碼。
這才是最了不起的,這才是人類的進步。

新加坡還做不到,
也許在我有生之年,看不到民主。
這裡一黨獨裁,不可能會出現一個柯P。
 

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Ironically I think what tw need is 一黨獨裁. People has to put their bet on one side. The correct side.

They have the fortune to choose A and B throughout their nation building.
Unfortunately, both become corrupted in the similar fashion.
Single Party only worked if the leader is upright and competent.
That is like asking for Santa which is very rare.
After a while, the upright person want to be a Emperor.
Look at where we are now.
 

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People can vote and they need to vote wisely. They don't need everyone, just majority

once a sound system ish established, ppl no longer need to garner majority 'just in case' they need to approve anything. :s22:

thats why SOP ish important.

for totalitarian system, the ruling party need to maintain majority in anticipation of a need to pass policies with majority. they need to impose party line in order to garner support as and when they need it. they always assume other ppl are stupid and cannot see the benefits or harm of any proposal, only their own party ppl can judge.

in a matured democracy, there ish no need for such anticipation. if a policy can pass the scrutiny of the SOP and still proved to be beneficial to majority of the ppl, u can have a govt with many small factions yet majority of the rep/MP will still approve the said policy.
 
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