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When did they buy and were they aware that there will be exclusions? If they were hospitalised due to their pre-existing conditions, best option is to go for B2 wards as MediShield Life will still cover to some extent.

If it’s the old Plan B that’s not as charged, then the coverage is really very limited but even if you were to consider upgrading to the copay plans, they may not be accepted due to their age and health.

You have to understand that there are many more possibilities that they may be hospitalised so to give up completely, it’s a huge risk to take because any medical bills incurred may spill over to you as well.

Will like your opinion on my parents hospitalization insurance. Basically it’s the old NTUC plan B insurance. As they were not financially literate, they only bought when they were at old. The plan comes with some exclusions like heart related diseases and blood related issues. Last few times they were hospitalized they were unable to claim much due to the exclusions.

Is it still worthwhile to keep the plans? Paying about $1000-$2000 a year but unable to claim anything when they need it. :( But going without coverage.. what are the risks?

Thanks so much in advance!
 

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Will like your opinion on my parents hospitalization insurance. Basically it’s the old NTUC plan B insurance. As they were not financially literate, they only bought when they were at old. The plan comes with some exclusions like heart related diseases and blood related issues. Last few times they were hospitalized they were unable to claim much due to the exclusions.

Is it still worthwhile to keep the plans? Paying about $1000-$2000 a year but unable to claim anything when they need it. :( But going without coverage.. what are the risks?

Your agent ask you to buy huh?

Never buy if there are too many exclusions, just stick to Medishield Life.
 

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if >10yrs ago go operation, discharge and now recover. lidat wht is the chance dat insurer will not hav exclusions for ISP.

If doctor can certify 'fully recover' then there is a chance of coverage.
 

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Basically it would be a list of doctors that are approved or in partnership with the insurer you are with. Most of the time its applicable for scheduled visit. The doctors are of course working with the respective hospital / clinic.

The reason for such panel is that in the past, insurers are afraid that the reimbursement of medical bill after a visit to, lets say, a private practitioner would incur a higher cost as client would be getting the reimbursement since their policies covers for it.

This is a way of trying to cap the cost and approve such visit without a bill shock to the insurer

how abt emergencies admissions? at dat time, I hardly think anyone will hav the luxury to choose the doctor, or disagree with the doctor. just kwai kwai let the doctor do the job.
 

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Will like your opinion on my parents hospitalization insurance. Basically it’s the old NTUC plan B insurance. As they were not financially literate, they only bought when they were at old. The plan comes with some exclusions like heart related diseases and blood related issues. Last few times they were hospitalized they were unable to claim much due to the exclusions.

Is it still worthwhile to keep the plans? Paying about $1000-$2000 a year but unable to claim anything when they need it. :( But going without coverage.. what are the risks?

Thanks so much in advance!

someone sic dis but I dunno if it actually works.
medishield life alrdy covers preexisting conditions and in B/C wards.
take money saved frm ISP premiums and top up into yr medisave or their medisave. when needed, use medisave to pay for the remaining bill.

hope to hear frm others whether is this feasible.
 

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Relying solely on Medishield life is still pretty risky. One must know that there’s a limit as to how much they can use from their medisave to pay for bills which is the most ridiculous rule if you ask me. So even if you’ve maxed out your Medisave, you can’t even use 100%.

Furthermore MediShield Life has surgical limits up to $7,000 for the most complex surgeries. I still strongly recommend everyone get minimally a as-charged B1 plan that will greatly enhance one’s coverage without paying through the roof for riders.

someone sic dis but I dunno if it actually works.
medishield life alrdy covers preexisting conditions and in B/C wards.
take money saved frm ISP premiums and top up into yr medisave or their medisave. when needed, use medisave to pay for the remaining bill.

hope to hear frm others whether is this feasible.
 

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how abt emergencies admissions? at dat time, I hardly think anyone will hav the luxury to choose the doctor, or disagree with the doctor. just kwai kwai let the doctor do the job.
SCDF ambulances (“995”) only go to public hospitals, and ward admissions are only into the lowest class (lowest priced/highest subsidy) ward the patient qualifies for unless the patient consents to something else.

Relying solely on Medishield life is still pretty risky. One must know that there’s a limit as to how much they can use from their medisave to pay for bills which is the most ridiculous rule if you ask me. So even if you’ve maxed out your Medisave, you can’t even use 100%.
That’s not generally true. The math works rather well in public hospital B2 or C ward, for Singaporean citizens.

Step outside of that box (higher class ward, private hospital, or another immigration status), and I agree with you: MediSave withdrawal limits can matter. However, cash still works. There are some people who are quite liquid wealthy who get their medical care in public hospital B2 ward and from polyclinics. Those individuals are quite well served with MSL alone.

I still strongly recommend everyone get minimally a as-charged B1 plan that will greatly enhance one’s coverage without paying through the roof for riders.
That doesn’t really work for those with preexisting conditions.
 

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That doesn’t really work for those with preexisting conditions.

If there’s pre-existing conditions then of course MSL is the last resort to get at least some form of coverage. There could be a lot of younger people out there who are thinking this is not important hence they only have MSL even though their health totally allows them to consider an upgrade to B1.

There are indeed many individuals who are liquid wealthy but there are probably more who are in a different position with a generous Medisave balance but cash tight.
 

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If there’s pre-existing conditions then of course MSL is the last resort to get at least some form of coverage. There could be a lot of younger people out there who are thinking this is not important hence they only have MSL even though their health totally allows them to consider an upgrade to B1.
Let's be a little more precise, though:

1. Active National Service personnel, and their spouses and dependents, have rather excellent medical coverage. They could upgrade to an "as charged" public hospital B1 ward Integrated Shield plan, and that might be a prudent thing to do simply for possible preexisting condition reasons, but it's probably not the most urgent insurance need.

2. It's much more difficult, or even impossible, for non-Singaporean citizens to get a decent "as charged" public hospital B1 ward Integrated Shield plan. For Singaporean citizens it's Great Eastern's SupremeHealth B Plus as the current category winner. For Permanent Residents I'd suggest NTUC Income's "as charged" public hospital B1 ward Integrated Shield plan ("Enhanced IncomeShield Basic") since it charges PRs a slightly higher premium but doesn't load a proration factor on coverage. Aviva's Plan 3 is another possible option, although I think NTUC narrowly wins this particular comparison. The other "as charged" public hospital B1 ward plans have nasty proration factors for PRs. If you're a non-citizen/non-PR then it looks like your lowest cost option among Integrated Shield plans is a public hospital A ward plan. There are some carriers, such as Prudential, that offer those plans to non-citizens/non-PRs.

If anyone in the insurance industry is listening, I'd like to see this sort of plan:

* Call it something like the "Essential Plan."
* Designed to cover public hospital B2+ ward or the individual's lowest air conditioned, referral-based/subsidized ward class, whichever is higher, on an "as charged" basis.
* Open to citizens, PRs, and foreigners with no proration factor (but obviously with different premiums).
* 5 year moratorium underwriting available (but probably with a lower maximum entry age).
* "Competitive carrier offer": if you've had continuous coverage with another carrier's "as charged" Integrated Shield plan for at least 5 years and no claims for at least 3 years then you can switch to this plan without any preexisting condition exclusions.
* Optional rider that reduces the initial deductible to $1,000, then there's the standard co-pay thereafter (10%), and then it caps total annual out of pocket/MediSave costs for covered services at $4,000.
* Generous annual limit of at least $500,000 with guaranteed public medical sector-based inflation adjustments.
* The rider includes simple travel medical insurance (unlimited emergency care, medical evacuation, and medical repatriation for trips of up to 30 days).
* Pre-/post-hospitalization coverage window of 6/16 months.
* "Birth Right Coverage": Policyholders can optionally prepay for the first 5 years of a future child's coverage no later than 10 months before the child's birth. For example, if a child's first 5 years of coverage costs $250, then a policyholder can deposit $250 with the carrier per future expected child. Let's suppose she deposits $500 on May 31, 2020. Eleven months later (April 30, 2021) she gives birth to her first child. That child is then covered from birth and for the first 5 years, with no exclusions. (Of course that child's policy can be renewed beyond 5 years at the prevailing premium.) If unused for insurance then these deposits earn an interest rate pegged to the 12 month Singapore T-bill (for example) and can be irrevocably withdrawn with interest at any time. A very few exclusions apply, notably that the mother must obtain at least minimum prenatal testing for a short list of severe birth defects, and if the testing indicates any severe birth defects then they won't be covered.
* There'd be some reasonable, similar arrangement for adopted children.
* Premium prepayment option. Every policyholder can prepay up to 5 years of premiums at the current rate (including age rating).
* Explicit prescription drug coverage, and without a coverage window limitation. This coverage would probably be bundled in the rider. Probably it'd be coverage for prescription drugs that are approved/obtained in Singapore and either generics or on the WHO's essential medicines list.

There are indeed many individuals who are liquid wealthy but there are probably more who are in a different position with a generous Medisave balance but cash tight.
Yes, but if they're Singaporean citizens staying in public hospital B2 or C ward they're still in pretty good shape between MediShield Life and a decent or better MediSave balance. And it need not be his/her MediSave balance since a qualified family member can deploy his/her MediSave balance instead.

I happen to agree that an "as charged" public hospital B1 ward Integrated Shield plan is a good idea (for those who can get one), but exactly how good and how important varies quite a lot.
 
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how abt emergencies admissions? at dat time, I hardly think anyone will hav the luxury to choose the doctor, or disagree with the doctor. just kwai kwai let the doctor do the job.

For emergency situation, i would say the normal reaction would to call for 995 which you do not have the choice as to which hospital he/she goes to.

If you have hosp coverage, a public hospital would definitely be more or less covered to a certain extent.

That being said, if one wishes to seek private treatment, you may request for a transfer after obtaining a letter of guarantee from the insurer stating up to how much the insurer will pay upfront first for the so called downpayment at a private hospital
 

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Would like to seek advice on my insurance coverage.
I bought my most basic insurance in 2018 based on some sound advice of this forum. S/O to @BBCwatcher for the “Big 3” concept.

Current Coverage
DII -- coverage $2K per month -- premium $710 p.a.
Hospitalisation -- AIA HSG MAX B -- premium $235 p.a. out of pocket
No life insurance - I have no dependency


Recently, my insurance advisor asked me to consider CI insurance as she believes there is a gap in my insurance coverage. She made her pitch & it does make sense - eg. Huge medical costs not covered by hospitalisation (what would those be? im honestly not sure. maybe cancer stuff), and costs my $2K a month can’t cover.

What are your thoughts on this?


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I’m turning 26 this year. I moved into a sales role last year. My income is commission-based. Take-home base pay is $3.5K a month. Comms are quite unpredictable. There have been months where my income is over $10K. 20% of my income goes into company’s stock purchase program.

Unfortunately I spend a lot, and I save ~ $1-2K a month. After 2 years of working, the savings in my bank is about $15K. I have $55K in CPF & $20K in stocks.

How much should I really be putting aside for insurance? Am i sufficiently covered?
Side note: I’m also wondering if I should raise my DII. I decided on $2K coverage as I think it covers my basic needs & the premiums are comfortable.


Thank you in advance for any advice received!
 

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Recently, my insurance advisor asked me to consider CI insurance as she believes there is a gap in my insurance coverage. She made her pitch & it does make sense - eg. Huge medical costs not covered by hospitalisation (what would those be? im honestly not sure. maybe cancer stuff), and costs my $2K a month can’t cover.
What would those costs be? And would CI even pay out?

We can call insurance “advisors” what they are: insurance salespeople. ;)

I’m turning 26 this year. I moved into a sales role last year. My income is commission-based. Take-home base pay is $3.5K a month.
I believe you’re allowed to raise your DII coverage to as much as $3,200 (nearest whole hundred dollar increment rounded down). I think it’s up to 75% of the gross. It’s a little hard for me to calculate since I’m not sure whether you’re subtracting company stock purchases before that $3,500 figure. Regardless, a DII raise is possible.

Unfortunately I spend a lot, and I save ~ $1-2K a month.
That’d be pretty impressive actually if you’re not counting either CPF or the company stock purchases in that figure, and if it’s based on the base with take home commissions all going into savings. Maybe it’s best to annualize all these figures to get a clearer picture? Still breaking out bonuses and commissions, of course.

After 2 years of working, the savings in my bank is about $15K. I have $55K in CPF & $20K in stocks.
Is the $20K counting the company stock?

How much should I really be putting aside for insurance? Am i sufficiently covered?
Side note: I’m also wondering if I should raise my DII. I decided on $2K coverage as I think it covers my basic needs & the premiums are comfortable.
Yes, I would raise the DII simply because you might have to live with the monthly figure as your sole source of income until age 65. It needs to be enough to get by now, over the next 38+ years with inflation, and with some spare dollars to jack up your Special Account (in particular) to bridge to CPF LIFE. (And you should be doing that anyway. There’s tax relief available for MA and SA top ups.) So the coverage amount should feel “too high” today, to a fair extent anyway. However, the carrier’s longest available waiting period is fine since your emergency reserve will bridge to DII.

In less than 4 years you’ll roll onto compulsory CareShield Life, which means you’d get a little more monthly income if you become very severely disabled. CSL coverage lasts for life, and payouts will rise with inflation. Even if you were to become severely disabled before your 30th birthday you’ll still be able to roll onto CSL. So I think CSL dovetails quite nicely with DII up to age 65 and then with CPF LIFE thereafter. (Expenses are probably higher with severe disability.)

You were automatically enrolled in the DPS and will see DPS premiums deducted from your CPF if you didn’t opt out. That’s term life insurance. It’s up to you whether you want to keep it.
 
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Thank you BBCwatcher for your reply!


What would those costs be? And would CI even pay out?

My concern is the cost of long-term post-hospitalisation treatment. TBH I've no idea what they would be :s11: ... but i'm thinking chemo, cancer meds, & the likes.

The CI i was offered is AIA Power Critical Cover

>>> it covers 73 CIs , until age 100
>>> coverage amount is $150K
>>> premium is $881.82 p.a.


What do u think? I'm actually choosing between raising my DII vs getting CI insurance.

I'm leaning slightly more towards CI. Just to avoid being a financial burden to anybody if i ever get a CI.

Regarding DII -- I find my DII of $2K to be okaaayy for a basic life. In the case of DII, I believe I'll be able to adjust to a $2K/mth life. IDK if I'm naive in thinking so, thus I'm thinking of raising my DII.


Thank you for sharing with me about DPS & CSL! I'll consider CSL in reviewing my DII coverage as well.

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That’d be pretty impressive actually if you’re not counting either CPF or the company stock purchases in that figure, and if it’s based on the base with take home commissions all going into savings. Maybe it’s best to annualize all these figures to get a clearer picture? Still breaking out bonuses and commissions, of course.

Hmm I'm part of a graduate program, and moved to a commission-based role in Aug 2019.

<all before CPF>
My basic annual pay is $50K (avg $4K a month)
My comms from Aug-today is $35K (avg $3K a month) -- fluctuates a lot

My spendings are avg $3.5K a month -- fluctuates a lot

20% of Salary (after CPF deduction) goes into company stock purchase plan (15% discount from lowest market price in 3 mths period)


Is the $20K counting the company stock?

Yes - I'm currently holding total USD12K of my company stock (market price) which i bought at total USD7K

I bought some shares in Mar/April this year

Holding about SGD6K of DBS stocks - avg profit of 4.5% , ignoring dividend
Holding USD600 of USO - still in the red for this - nearly 60% loss



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I know I started off asking for insurance advice.... But if you have any personal financial planning advice, pls share it with me as well. One of my biggest $$$ regrets is that I spent more than I earned in 2018-2019, and I missed out on a really good investment opportunity.

Sometime in March, I decided to have a serious, proper $$$ plan.


My simple plan is to increase my income as much as I can (promotion & comms) & try to change my lifestyle and spend less than $3K a month. I want to be sufficiently insured as well - but I don't want to pay unnecessary premiums.

I was also lucky to get a BTO at Kallang, and will have that cost coming in in the next few years.


THANK U VERY MUCH BBCWATCHER!
 

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Thank you BBCwatcher for your reply!




My concern is the cost of long-term post-hospitalisation treatment. TBH I've no idea what they would be :s11: ... but i'm thinking chemo, cancer meds, & the likes.

The CI i was offered is AIA Power Critical Cover

>>> it covers 73 CIs , until age 100
>>> coverage amount is $150K
>>> premium is $881.82 p.a.


What do u think? I'm actually choosing between raising my DII vs getting CI insurance.

I'm leaning slightly more towards CI. Just to avoid being a financial burden to anybody if i ever get a CI.

Regarding DII -- I find my DII of $2K to be okaaayy for a basic life. In the case of DII, I believe I'll be able to adjust to a $2K/mth life. IDK if I'm naive in thinking so, thus I'm thinking of raising my DII.


Thank you for sharing with me about DPS & CSL! I'll consider CSL in reviewing my DII coverage as well.

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Hmm I'm part of a graduate program, and moved to a commission-based role in Aug 2019.

<all before CPF>
My basic annual pay is $50K (avg $4K a month)
My comms from Aug-today is $35K (avg $3K a month) -- fluctuates a lot

My spendings are avg $3.5K a month -- fluctuates a lot

20% of Salary (after CPF deduction) goes into company stock purchase plan (15% discount from lowest market price in 3 mths period)




Yes - I'm currently holding total USD12K of my company stock (market price) which i bought at total USD7K

I bought some shares in Mar/April this year

Holding about SGD6K of DBS stocks - avg profit of 4.5% , ignoring dividend
Holding USD600 of USO - still in the red for this - nearly 60% loss



_____

I know I started off asking for insurance advice.... But if you have any personal financial planning advice, pls share it with me as well. One of my biggest $$$ regrets is that I spent more than I earned in 2018-2019, and I missed out on a really good investment opportunity.

Sometime in March, I decided to have a serious, proper $$$ plan.


My simple plan is to increase my income as much as I can (promotion & comms) & try to change my lifestyle and spend less than $3K a month. I want to be sufficiently insured as well - but I don't want to pay unnecessary premiums.

I was also lucky to get a BTO at Kallang, and will have that cost coming in in the next few years.


THANK U VERY MUCH BBCWATCHER!

Aia power critical care is their multipay ci plan. 150k till age 100 only 882..82 per annum? The quote u have is definitely wrong. I just done a quote for that and is $3415.50/year for 150k till age 100. Maybe you wan to double check on the premium. And Very very little people actually get a multipay plan till age 100 as it dont make sense.
 

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Regarding DII -- I find my DII of $2K to be okaaayy for a basic life. In the case of DII, I believe I'll be able to adjust to a $2K/mth life. IDK if I'm naive in thinking so, thus I'm thinking of raising my DII.
You might be OK in 2020 getting by on $2,000/month. Will you be OK getting by in 2055 on $2,000/month, after 35+ years of inflation has eroded the purchasing power of 2,000 Singapore dollars? Probably not, right?

Suppose inflation averages 1.5%/year. That $2,000 will then only have the purchasing power of $1,188 (2020) dollars in 2055. Ouch, right?

I bought some shares in Mar/April this year
Holding about SGD6K of DBS stocks - avg profit of 4.5% , ignoring dividend
Holding USD600 of USO - still in the red for this - nearly 60% loss
Don’t do this part. It’s just gambling. The ESPP is a good deal, but you should be regularly clearing vested/qualified shares out (shares that you can sell without suspension from the ESPP). Then pick a simple two or three fund investment strategy, and keep plugging away for the next 30 years or so. You can earmark a portion of that savings flow for your BTO, via some conservative vehicle.
 

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hi boredboiboi,

Aia power critical care is their multipay ci plan. 150k till age 100 only 882..82 per annum? The quote u have is definitely wrong. I just done a quote for that and is $3415.50/year for 150k till age 100. Maybe you wan to double check on the premium. And Very very little people actually get a multipay plan till age 100 as it dont make sense.


I do not have sufficient post count to post images/links. This is a screenshot of the proposal I got: imgur.com/IrpnU5l

Am i looking at this right?
 

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Thanks BBCwatcher for your input!
Will definitely take those into account when doing my financial planning.

I'll look into raising my DII.

One last question -- what's your take on CI & when does it make sense to get one?
 

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hi boredboiboi,




I do not have sufficient post count to post images/links. This is a screenshot of the proposal I got: imgur.com/IrpnU5l

Am i looking at this right?
Your baisc coverage is only 30k per claim. Multiple claim up to total 150k.
 

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One last question -- what's your take on CI & when does it make sense to get one?

Your baisc coverage is only 30k per claim. Multiple claim up to total 150k.
CI ("Critical Illness") insurance ranks fairly low as a priority, in my view. Let's consider your particular policy as an example, but they're broadly similar. The basic idea is that if you "win" the illness/ailment lottery, and your illness happens to be on the CI list, then you receive a one-time payout ($30K in this case). Some policies are "two pay" or "multi-pay," meaning they pay more than once. (This one is maximum "5 pay" evidently.) Of course all of these policies cost money, and there are various twists and complications since many of our best and brightest students dedicate their careers to making our financial lives more complicated in order to optimize revenues and profits. Heartwarming, isn't it? :s22:

Some CI policies are attached to life insurance, and some are "standalone." The life insurance attached policies can "accelerate" the life insurance payout (meaning they are basically equivalent to death and trigger some or all of the death payout, reducing or eliminating the death payout), and others are added on top of the life insurance.

....OK, with that background, I'll repeat the basic parameters to help you understand when you need insurance (and by implication when you don't). You need particular insurance when ALL of these conditions apply:

(a) You're at risk of a calamity or catastrophe -- a really serious incident, something genuinely grave;
(b) That you cannot reasonably handle on your own using your other assets (including any other insurance payouts);
(c) That a money payout would solve or at least make better.

So, for example, let's assume you could buy "Breakup Insurance," meaning that if your boyfriend or girlfriend stops loving you, leaves you, and finds a new partner, the insurance pays you some money. Breakup Insurance fails condition (c) at least: money cannot buy that person's love. There are some bad things that happen that money cannot solve, and all an insurance company can do is pay money, if it pays money.

As another example, you can buy travel insurance that pays up to $500 when a bus companies loses your suitcase holding your favorite $10 Donald Duck toothbrush. But the loss of your Donald Duck toothbrush isn't a genuine calamity or catastrophe, so it fails condition (a) and probably (b) as well. You simply don't need insurance for the small, non-calamitous risks. (You most probably need travel medical insurance, highly preferably unlimited, that pays for emergency medical care, medical evacuation, and medical repatriation. Those circumstances are calamitous and tremendously expensive, so that one matters if/when you venture outside Singapore, probably with the exception of a bus ride to Johor Bahru for example since that'll probably work out well enough.)

Now, turning to "Critical Illness." Several years ago I think there was some merit to CI, because it was an imperfect but probably the best available "gap filler" to pay primarily for medical care and secondarily for unpaid time off from work when confronted with a grave illness/ailment. But Singapore has a much better medical system now, we have bigger compulsory medical savings (MediSave), and there's much better hospitalization insurance (Integrated Shield) particularly since 2015 that includes quite a lot of pre-/post-hospitalization coverage for related care. That coverage window varies depending on the Integrated Shield plan you have, and it's a good point of comparison between policies and riders. However, that said, it's prudent to have a basic Integrated Shield plan in place, and that plan should do a rather good job handling the big medical bills.

Disability Income Insurance (DII) does an even better job of handling forced unemployment (and loss of income) due to disability. Let's suppose you're age 28, and your average future monthly income is $5,000/month until age 65, over 36 1/2 years let's suppose (438 months). I'm assuming some wage increases but also a little time between jobs. That adds up to $2.19 million. CI insurance, if it pays, might pay you $30K? $100K? OK, let's go crazy...$200K? Versus a loss of $2.19 million if you become disabled tomorrow and unable to work. Let's assume current income is $4,000/month and you have DII covering 75% of that ($3,000/month). In this scenario DII will pay at least 432 months (6 month waiting period assumed), and we'll also assume a non-escalating payout (Aviva offers optional escalating), so the insurance company's DII payout is just shy of $1.3 million in this example. Yes, that's less than $2.19 million...but it's a hell of a lot more than even $200K, which just isn't enough to survive on with anything resembling a decent lifestyle.

And remember, CI coverage isn't free. You have to pay premiums for it, and there are some insurance company overheads. If you do a decent job gaining "financial altitude" with saving and prudent investing, you'll solve condition (b). You can (and should) save more when you aren't having to pay premiums. "Cash always works," and it's very flexible. If you need an extra $18,230.32 (precisely) to keep the household running for 8 months while your Integrated Shield and MediSave pay for most/all of your chemotherapy but also while you feel like taking unpaid time off from work (but aren't able to claim DII since you're able to work), cash and other liquid assets definitely work -- and you're not getting a $100K CI payout that's too big in the circumstances (and that you had to pay for with premiums) for example.

Anyway, the bottom line is that I think it's OK to skip CI insurance. It's perhaps a "nice to have," but I don't think it qualifies as an insurance necessity nowadays. I broadly agree with this blogger about prioritization.
 

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.....due to their pre-existing conditions, best option is to go for B2 wards as MediShield Life will still cover to some extent.
If it’s the old Plan B that’s not as charged, then the coverage is really very limited but even if you were to consider upgrading to the copay plans, they may not be accepted due to their age and health.
You give up completely, it’s a huge risk to take because any medical bills incurred may spill over to you as well.

If u r in the insurance line and have seen the above scenario, so have many of us who now are experiencing and "suffering" as elderlies who already have the pre-existing "highs" staying in crowded B2/C class. As many are ageing, don't u see a potential business and open B2+ open more spaced up wards with the govt and accept us into your insurance umbrella in "As charged" category.Adult kids should top up their parents' Medisave Account" or additional top-up premiums to buy this B2+ class to get Adult Kids Filiel Piety Tax rebates, the opposite of Parental Tax Rebates their last time when they have at least 3 kids.
 
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