Official August 2020 BTO

[Labelmate]

Besides I think Nov plot don't have bridge across... If need to walk, can walk a big round to Bedok Reservoir mrt or straight to Tamp West mrt.

But Aug have a bridge over which makes it easier to go to Bedok Reservoir mrt.

No Ba, Opal is 450-500m away from bedok reservoir station. its nearer to there instead of tamp west.

Nov plot is good, along road gt busstop below. but BTO is like a gamble ma, cannot say u aim there means get. try Aug one, if fail then try Nov. Aim 2 try get one is better than aim one n try get one.

 

[AhhHoNG]

Besides I think Nov plot don't have bridge across... If need to walk, can walk a big round to Bedok Reservoir mrt or straight to Tamp West mrt.

But Aug have a bridge over which makes it easier to go to Bedok Reservoir mrt.

yes you are right the bridge across longkang makes the journey to DTL faster than the nov plot of land

 

[pc1988]

Haiz think so much also useless... must wait until given a good Q number

 

[gats&check]

yes you are right the bridge across longkang makes the journey to DTL faster than the nov plot of land

Let's not forget that the bridge is "proposed". No confirmation as to when it would be built. Without the bridge it's at least a 15min walk to Bedok Reservoir MRT.

 

[Ch3tah_39]

Haiz think so much also useless... must wait until given a good Q number

You are right also. Get Q then think.

 

[AhhHoNG]

Haiz think so much also useless... must wait until given a good Q number

those who tried tamp are allowed to tink tink abit cos chances quite high

 

[Ch3tah_39]

To be honest, Opal is nearer to Tamp Central.

Actually the waiting time is not as bad as those 2027 like PR... Plus they say that they will look into ways to shorten since so many people have concerns over the completion time.

True also. If they can shorten opal will be good. Since dtl is already up

 

[gats&check]

True also. If they can shorten opal will be good. Since dtl is already up

I doubt so eh. Tampines GreenGem which was released in Nov 2018 still looks like it's at it's beginning stages of construction. It was the first BTO released around that area.

 

[Beckywjl]

Have a feeling that at least 50% of the people here will move to the next thread. Nov bto 2020. Best of luck everybody

 

[greenhse]

Have a feeling that at least 50% of the people here will move to the next thread. Nov bto 2020. Best of luck everybody

50% is a very optimistic number.

 

[hanayorisg]

Have a feeling that at least 50% of the people here will move to the next thread. Nov bto 2020. Best of luck everybody

Most of the project is Above 1:3, some even 1:10
How can get 50%

 

[pc1988]

Most of the project is Above 1:3, some even 1:10
How can get 50%

Maybe most forumers are lucky one And 50% got 50% bo...

 

[1982-1994]

out of all the respective BTO FT,I wonder how many surf in this thread

 

[vinzvalentino]

out of all the respective BTO FT,I wonder how many surf in this thread

Less than 5%? At first thought PR will be popular but results show otherwise

 

[Falafell]

out of all the respective BTO FT,I wonder how many surf in this thread

Most young people nowadays dont really discuss about housing anymore. Just apply only.

 

[Beckywjl]

50% is a very optimistic number.

That's why I mentioned at least 50% would move on to the next BTO. if lucky then people in this thread would be happy la. If not see the same people again in Nov. This my 4th time trying.

 

[casualtraveller]

just for sharing. saw this while browsing the website.

Balloting process scenario

Now, let's get back to the balloting process and why its so hard to get a good queue number. As a first timer applicant, 70%-95% of the flats are set aside for you depending on the type of flat and the location. Within the 95%, 30% are set aside for PPS and another 30% for MCPS.

Let's take for example the following scenarios:

Location: Toa Payoh (Mature Estate)
Flats available: 1000
Total number of applicants: 2000 (Oversubscribed)
PPS applicants: 400
MCPS applicants: 400
Other first timers: 400
Second timers: 800

1. Flats for first timer: 950 (95%)
Flats for PPS: 300
Flats for MCPS: 300
Flats for other first timers: 350

2. Flats for second timer: 50 (5%)

Now, with the above scenarios, we can predict how the ballot process will work. This is just based on my understanding but it may not be exactly how it is done.

First, HDB will shortlist applicants up to 100% of the flat supply. There are 1000 flats available in this instance.

Step 1:
PPS applicants will be shortlisted first. 400 PPS applicants are shortlisted for 300 units set aside for them. This means that 100 PPS are out of the shortlist.

Step 2:
MCPS applicants will be shortlisted. 400 MCPS applicants are shortlisted for 300 units set aside for them. This means that 100 MCPS are out of the shortlist.

Step 3:
Other first timer applicants will be shortlisted. There are 400 other first timer applicants plus 100 PPS who failed in step 1 and 100 MCPS who failed in step 2. They will probably be shortlisted in this step 3 as well. This part is unclear as I could not get any information from HDB. If the PPS and MCPS are put in this pool as well, we have a total of 600 applicants who will fight for 350 units. This means 250 first timers (regardless of priority schemes) will be out of the 1000 queue number.

Step 4:
Now, second timers will be shortlisted. 800 second timer applicants will be shortlisted for 50 units set aside for them. This means that 750 second timer applicants will be out of the shortlist. As a second timer applicant, you must be really lucky if you can get shortlisted within the 100% supply of flats.

Final step:
The final step is all those who are shortlisted (first and second timers) will now be assigned random queue numbers. A first timer applicant can still get the last queue number 1000 and a second timer applicant can get queue number 1. Those who are out of the 1000 flat supply will still be assigned queue numbers as HDB gives out queue numbers for 300% of the flat supply.


By now, if you managed to follow the above scenario, you would have realised that the balloting process is completely based on luck to get a good queue number. It doesn't matter if you applied under any priority schemes. The priority schemes only increase your chance of being assigned a queue number but not your chance of a good queue number.

http://sgyounginvestment.blogspot.com/2018/06/should-i-get-bto-or-resale-flat.html

 

[Livingthedream]

I live at Choa Chu Kang. Actually this site not that bad in terms of transport. Lots of buses go to this site from CCK or BP bus interchange. Got LRT as alternate transport option also. I think it was unpopular due to other reasons.

What reasons do y'all think it was unpopular ?

 

[dleodleo]

just for sharing. saw this while browsing the website.

Balloting process scenario

Now, let's get back to the balloting process and why its so hard to get a good queue number. As a first timer applicant, 70%-95% of the flats are set aside for you depending on the type of flat and the location. Within the 95%, 30% are set aside for PPS and another 30% for MCPS.

Let's take for example the following scenarios:

Location: Toa Payoh (Mature Estate)
Flats available: 1000
Total number of applicants: 2000 (Oversubscribed)
PPS applicants: 400
MCPS applicants: 400
Other first timers: 400
Second timers: 800

1. Flats for first timer: 950 (95%)
Flats for PPS: 300
Flats for MCPS: 300
Flats for other first timers: 350

2. Flats for second timer: 50 (5%)

Now, with the above scenarios, we can predict how the ballot process will work. This is just based on my understanding but it may not be exactly how it is done.

First, HDB will shortlist applicants up to 100% of the flat supply. There are 1000 flats available in this instance.

Step 1:
PPS applicants will be shortlisted first. 400 PPS applicants are shortlisted for 300 units set aside for them. This means that 100 PPS are out of the shortlist.

Step 2:
MCPS applicants will be shortlisted. 400 MCPS applicants are shortlisted for 300 units set aside for them. This means that 100 MCPS are out of the shortlist.

Step 3:
Other first timer applicants will be shortlisted. There are 400 other first timer applicants plus 100 PPS who failed in step 1 and 100 MCPS who failed in step 2. They will probably be shortlisted in this step 3 as well. This part is unclear as I could not get any information from HDB. If the PPS and MCPS are put in this pool as well, we have a total of 600 applicants who will fight for 350 units. This means 250 first timers (regardless of priority schemes) will be out of the 1000 queue number.

Step 4:
Now, second timers will be shortlisted. 800 second timer applicants will be shortlisted for 50 units set aside for them. This means that 750 second timer applicants will be out of the shortlist. As a second timer applicant, you must be really lucky if you can get shortlisted within the 100% supply of flats.

Final step:
The final step is all those who are shortlisted (first and second timers) will now be assigned random queue numbers. A first timer applicant can still get the last queue number 1000 and a second timer applicant can get queue number 1. Those who are out of the 1000 flat supply will still be assigned queue numbers as HDB gives out queue numbers for 300% of the flat supply.


By now, if you managed to follow the above scenario, you would have realised that the balloting process is completely based on luck to get a good queue number. It doesn't matter if you applied under any priority schemes. The priority schemes only increase your chance of being assigned a queue number but not your chance of a good queue number.

http://sgyounginvestment.blogspot.com/2018/06/should-i-get-bto-or-resale-flat.html

Thanks for sharing. Now I have a better idea on how it works.

 

[Coollplay]

just for sharing. saw this while browsing the website.

Balloting process scenario

Now, let's get back to the balloting process and why its so hard to get a good queue number. As a first timer applicant, 70%-95% of the flats are set aside for you depending on the type of flat and the location. Within the 95%, 30% are set aside for PPS and another 30% for MCPS.

Let's take for example the following scenarios:

Location: Toa Payoh (Mature Estate)
Flats available: 1000
Total number of applicants: 2000 (Oversubscribed)
PPS applicants: 400
MCPS applicants: 400
Other first timers: 400
Second timers: 800

1. Flats for first timer: 950 (95%)
Flats for PPS: 300
Flats for MCPS: 300
Flats for other first timers: 350

2. Flats for second timer: 50 (5%)

Now, with the above scenarios, we can predict how the ballot process will work. This is just based on my understanding but it may not be exactly how it is done.

First, HDB will shortlist applicants up to 100% of the flat supply. There are 1000 flats available in this instance.

Step 1:
PPS applicants will be shortlisted first. 400 PPS applicants are shortlisted for 300 units set aside for them. This means that 100 PPS are out of the shortlist.

Step 2:
MCPS applicants will be shortlisted. 400 MCPS applicants are shortlisted for 300 units set aside for them. This means that 100 MCPS are out of the shortlist.

Step 3:
Other first timer applicants will be shortlisted. There are 400 other first timer applicants plus 100 PPS who failed in step 1 and 100 MCPS who failed in step 2. They will probably be shortlisted in this step 3 as well. This part is unclear as I could not get any information from HDB. If the PPS and MCPS are put in this pool as well, we have a total of 600 applicants who will fight for 350 units. This means 250 first timers (regardless of priority schemes) will be out of the 1000 queue number.

Step 4:
Now, second timers will be shortlisted. 800 second timer applicants will be shortlisted for 50 units set aside for them. This means that 750 second timer applicants will be out of the shortlist. As a second timer applicant, you must be really lucky if you can get shortlisted within the 100% supply of flats.

Final step:
The final step is all those who are shortlisted (first and second timers) will now be assigned random queue numbers. A first timer applicant can still get the last queue number 1000 and a second timer applicant can get queue number 1. Those who are out of the 1000 flat supply will still be assigned queue numbers as HDB gives out queue numbers for 300% of the flat supply.


By now, if you managed to follow the above scenario, you would have realised that the balloting process is completely based on luck to get a good queue number. It doesn't matter if you applied under any priority schemes. The priority schemes only increase your chance of being assigned a queue number but not your chance of a good queue number.

http://sgyounginvestment.blogspot.com/2018/06/should-i-get-bto-or-resale-flat.html

now just wait until result out .. due to it's pure luck now..