[Official MOM's Website - Jul 2020] S'pore Has Let in the Most No. of Foreign PMETs in Its History!!

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One recent Singaporean graduate told the Telegraph that “many of my peers and I are completely disillusioned by the government…We see ourselves completely at odds with the foreign population. At every turn, citizens are disadvantaged. There really isn't any prominent country that has such high foreign population.”

If usa had 40% foreign population, there would be daily riots

The problem with CECA is that it's so imbalanced in favour of India.

How many Singaporeans would be excited to look for a job in India?

And it is often observed that once an India national is hired for a senior role here, he will most likely have a preference to hire other Indian nationals. If you look at the staff of JPMorgan Singapore, it is very different from 10-15 years ago. There are way too many Indian nationals vs Singaporeans and other nationalities. The trend pretty much started after an Indian national was appointed as the head of Asia at JPMorgan and it accelerated with the adoption of CECA. At one stage, the authorities were concerned about the large proportions of Indian nationals being hired at the expense of locals and JPMorgan ramped up the hiring of locals but the new local hires were mainly for junior roles. If you look at the organizational chart, the Indian nationals are at the top of the chart and the locals are at the bottom. The situation is similar at other banks like Citi, Standard Chartered.

India is a big country with a wide pool of smart and well-educated professionals but so is China among other countries. And China is a much bigger market to do business with. There are more Chinese companies operating in Singapore. There are more MNCs doing China-related business located in Singapore. Why do we have such a disproportionate number of Indian nationals in senior positions in banks and tech companies in Singapore?

There is this anecdote of a minister who wanted to visit one of the American banks' trading floor in Singapore because of complaints from some local staff who felt they were disadvantaged and unfairly laid off in favour of Indian hires. When the bank management found out about the minister visiting in the afternoon, they told all the Indian nationals to go for early lunch and not to come back for the rest of the day!

Your reserves are assets for you to weather crisis, you still need earning and growth potential. If your youths have such issues finding jobs, it is worrisome for the economy in future.

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This is year 2018 and they are talking about striking a balance?Abit too late isn't it?should have shut the goddam floodgates back in 2009.lets face it singapore doesn't belong to sinkies anymore....at the most we are glorified slaves for NS.

Sg deserve it lah. Got 20 years to diversify to a high tech economy but instead went for population ponzi, casino and money washing.

Talk is want to achieve swiss standard of living but ask yrself if the Swiss got to their level of prosperity through these shortcuts or not.

Had LHL done that 16 years ago instead of the myopic population ponzi FT-first policy, Singapore would have been a much better place today.

Just imagine if in 2004, the 12 year-old Singaporean kids were properly groomed and developed to his or her full potential, Singapore would have been leaner, more efficient and productive today to deal with oncoming economic slowdown.

Instead, 16 years after LHL took over in 2004, Singapore is facing our lowest national productivity years with a bunch of Chennai IT code monkeys that turns up at work after 10 am, looks up Google to write their codes and have mass 'chai party' at Chennai Business Park from 2-4pm everyday!

And those 12 year-olds, at age 28 today?

They're probably frantically looking for work after graduation or under-employed in their current roles.

Or working as Uber/Grab drivers, Panda/Deliveroo Food Delivery or property/insurance agents.

After so many years of top-quality national education bore by Singaporean taxpayers, many would simply become property and insurance agents because of limited MNC job opportunities due to LHL's FT-welcome policy.

Whither, Singapore?


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All those jokers who voted for PAP few months back deserve to get their rice bowls stolen.
 

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Our education system does not prepare the middle age and young pmet to take up digitalisation and AI skill based types of jobs...
we are caught out by transformation of digitalisation of jobs...
Traditional non AI jobs are cannibalise by ceca and tiong.. The middle pmet simply cannot fit into AI jobs..
In China, their commercial AI are so developed in surveillance and Drone tech.
we can't even develop our own AI industry and past traditional education doesn't equip us with AI knowledge.
 

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Chow jibais pap n those voted for them :mad: :mad:

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Who say sinkies don't work in western bulge bracket investment banks?

They got deliver food and package to their office no?
 

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Quote for truth, please look at original post to see what Savantrainmaker quoted

Had LHL done that 16 years ago instead of the myopic population ponzi FT-first policy, Singapore would have been a much better place today.

Just imagine if in 2004, the 12 year-old Singaporean kids were properly groomed and developed to his or her full potential, Singapore would have been leaner, more efficient and productive today to deal with oncoming economic slowdown.

Instead, 16 years after LHL took over in 2004, Singapore is facing our lowest national productivity years with a bunch of Chennai IT code monkeys that turns up at work after 10 am, looks up Google to write their codes and have mass 'chai party' at Chennai Business Park from 2-4pm everyday!

And those 12 year-olds, at age 28 today?

They're probably frantically looking for work after graduation or under-employed in their current roles.

Or working as Uber/Grab drivers, Panda/Deliveroo Food Delivery or property/insurance agents.

After so many years of top-quality national education bore by Singaporean taxpayers, many would simply become property and insurance agents because of limited MNC job opportunities due to LHL's FT-welcome policy.

Whither, Singapore?


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Who still remember this?

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Gov's only game plan is population ponzi, got no plan B.

Its obvious they will not stop no matter what.
 

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Else how to stay on power and milk citizens

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the current administration is bankrupt on ideas on how to grow SG Economy.

the population ponzi scheme has caused 16 years of Singaporeans missing out on job opportunities to be in managerial positions today, and in the future.

after the US and China grew their tech companies to be globally successful, we are only starting traineeships in tech, 10 years too late.

forever too late, and playing the catch-up game.
 

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***** incredible PAP policies.

Citizen % of Total Population decreased from 64% to 61%, even with new citizens granted like toilet paper every year???

50k New Citizen and PR issued in 1 year before 2015 GE
55k New Citizen and PR issued in 1 year before 2020 GE?



Total Population
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2019 Total Citizens = 3,500,900
2019 Total Population = 5,703,600
% 2009 Citizens = 64.17 %
% 2019 Citizens = 61.38 %



Profile of SCs and PRs granted in 2018
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% 2018 ASEAN (Malaysia+Philippines) = 62.13 %
% 2018 Other Asians (CECA+PRC) = 37.86 %



Number of SCs and PRs Granted
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* This is total new issuance, not total PR and total new SC population

2014 (Pre 2015 Election) Total new PR + new SC = 50,669
2018 (Pre 2020 Election) Total new PR + new SC = 55,260
Total new PR + new SC increase = 9.06%
 

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South Asians and pinoys are very eh-kan because 10 yrs ago they were blue collar or low end programmers.

In less than 1 generation they are almost on top of us.

Singapore is a country that needs Globalization to thrive and even survive. Don't anyhow assume others' problems are the same as our problems.
Globalization is to our advantage NOW, we have all the pull factors to attract the best brains... But what if other cities catch up and we no longer the city of choice? Can our industries continue to support them? Or will we have over capacity infrastructure when they go en mass? Like the closure of schools? Can we be so short sighted for unsustainable economics gains?

@WoollyMammoth and others who are arguing the case for Globalization blindly without a valid basis, you would need to look at the both the historical and current facts and figures before regurgitating the SG mass media line that Globalization is the solution to all of SG's economic problems. It's a panadol temporary pain-relief at best.

@SOS9112001. First, from the recent economic data and numbers, Globalization's no longer advantageous to Singapore. But You raised up a important point - that other countries will catch up with Singapore one day. Do you realize that by opening up Singapore economic borders unchecked, Singapore's actually training up our regional countries workforce to compete directly with Singapore one day?

We have actually seen this happening when MNCs started to re-locate their Asia-Pacific business centres like operations centres to those former third-world country that has acquired more skilled labour who returned from Singapore after a couple of years?

MNCs moved because Globalization or the mass influx of bodies into Singapore has increased the business cost of land for commercial, residential and leisure purposes. Coupled with the fact that our neighbouring countries' workforce has attained critical masses of skilled labour, MNCs are making the move that makes economic sense easily.

What's the long-term impacts to Singapore as we accelerated the training and skill levels of our neighbouring competitors?



The passe phenomenon of Globalization started in 2004 when LHL began his mass imports of FTs after he came into office in August, three days after SG39 National Day.

Before LHL took over the premiership, Singapore always have had good and sustainable economic growth from the 70s, 80s throughout 90s and even early 2000s.

Even before the word Globalization was coined, being a trading port-city, Singapore was always a free-port and open economy, resulting in our economy being well-correlated with the up and down movements of the global economy.

After LHL opened the floodgates to the FTs from 2004 onwards, Singapore's economic cycles became extremely volatile.

Just look at the abnormal high spikes in GDP after GFC from 2009 to 2011. And followed by prolonged trough periods of negative and low growths from 2011 till 2016, even when the rest of the world was enjoying healthy growth over the same period.

LHL's use of FTs to boost economic growth is unsustainable and myopic. It's like using drugs such as cocaine - giving a super-short high, followed by a very bad and long slump.

Worse, Singapore core economic capabilities and fundamentals were damaged during this period, characterised by high cost and low productivity.

White-collared FTs replaced the highly educated Singaporeans in PMETs jobs at MNCs, not by meritocracy or better skills; but by their own countrymen networks.

Blue-collared foreign workers were let in en-masse, depressing the wages of Singaporean rank-and-file workers, whilst letting SME owners enjoy quick short-term profits without the need to invest into technology and machineries.

All these lower quality FT workforce, together with their increasing numbers every year increased cost-pressure whilst lowering our national productivity.

Consequently, Singapore's global competitiveness fell because of the higher cost and lower productivity.

Just look at Singapore's prolonged economic under-performance against our regional neighbours ever since the high spikes.

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The spikes and troughs during LHL's administration are abnormal and unusual throughout Singapore's modern economic history.

Look at the chart, before LHL took over in 2004, Singapore always had a healthy balance of economic growth. (falling within the two RED bands).

Yes before 2004 and the word Globalization was invented, there were real and high-quality FTs too, coming in to complement Singapore's organic labour force, not replacing Singaporeans, making citizens under-employed in their own country after so much tax-dollars were spent on educating a typical Singaporean till tertiary levels.

Singapore's economic development and balance in the last 12 years was severely disrupted and damaged by LHL's myopic FT policy.


AFTERNOTE:

Another thesis at the moment is that LHL, through his liberal immigration policy for short-term GDP spikes has unwittingly became the labour training school for ASEAN and Sub-Continent Asia (e.g. India).

FTs who were allowed into Singapore got all the on-the-job trainings ahead of Singaporeans.

FTs get all the relevant trainings in MNCs when jobless Singaporeans were asked to attend government-ran SkillsFuture that did not guarantee a job after the training.


When the SG economy is good, these ASEAN & Indian FTs earned good money in Singapore, remit their earnings back to their home countries, whilst spending minimally to stimulate the domestic economy.

Jobless or unemployed Singaporeans tighten their belt and spent lesser than before. Consequently, the wealth-creation effects in Singapore is diminished significantly even as the bodies packed in and the population grew to 5.7 million.

Worse, when the SG economy is bad, FTs return to their home nations with the relevant skills-sets that MNCs desire to start their local operations. They become Singapore's strong regional competition for MNCs to set up base.

These ASEAN and Sub-Continent Asian nations with their now skilled-labour and natural abundance of Land, easily wins these MNCs over at Singapore's expense.


Singapore in a bad economy cannot re-build quickly because it is stucked with citizens with SkillsFuture skills that MNCs least require and hence Singapore and Singaporeans are losing the regional economic race, much less the global competition.

Just go take a peek at the recent performance of the regional economies vis-a-vis Singapore's current state of economy.


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Matter of time Singapore will be taken over by our ASEAN neighbours.

I have said this before; Singapore cannot have an economy consisting of 40% foreign labour who accounts for 55% of the income tax paid year-on-year.

Whilst, spin doctors under the LHL's Administration would declare proudly that HALF of Singaporeans DO NOT NEED to pay income taxes, it simply means 50% of Singaporeans are either jobless or earn less than S$20,000 per year (circa $1,700 per month).

Last checked, compared to a Singapore citizen, foreigners in Singapore do not need to pay any extra income tax given the same earning power, nor do foreigners need to pay any National Service / National Defence taxes on their income earned in Singapore.

Then why is it that foreigners in Singapore account for a much bigger percentage of the Singapore's total income taxes collected vis-a-vis local Singaporean income taxpayers?

So if foreigners are earning more than Singaporeans (since they are paying proportionately more income tax than Singapore citizens); do they also spend more of their disposable income in Singapore to create a bigger wealth-creation effect in the larger domestic economy?

Singaporeans as a whole need to think about the answers to such questions.

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with 158th around, who needs enemies? :(

when is their next round of retrenchment? :(

This debacle as well as the MG Lessons are microcosms of what Singapore may become if foreigners are allowed to hold the country at ransom economically.

The Mandarin Gardens Lesson...how a group of Sporeans rise to reclaim control back from CECAs
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...-rise-reclaim-control-back-cecas-6369968.html

With such a key industry like Banking & Finance being dominated by 57% senior managers and decision-makers who are foreigners, Singapore is already at risk of being held ransom economically by foreigners.

BizTimes:::Singaporeans hold 43% of senior roles in financial sector: MAS
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...enior-roles-financial-sector-mas-6359254.html

Now foreigners are already getting more vocal in Singapore and a lot are acting in passive-aggressive modes - trying to hold the Singapore's economy at ransom.

Taiwanese in S'pore lost her job: If all the foreigners leave, who's going pay the rent for condos?
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...leave-whos-going-pay-rent-condos-6369897.html

Wife of Euro expat in S'pore: Society has turned suddenly against foreigners, waiting to kick u out
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...st-foreigners-waiting-kick-u-out-6369886.html

Sacked Indian EP holder: My breaking pt would be if employer tell me, sorry I won’t employ Indians
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...e-sorry-i-won%92t-employ-indians-6369875.html

NUS foreign student grad: Sent 75 applications for STEM job, only 1 offer which was later rescinded
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...job-only-1-offer-later-rescinded-6369880.html

And the latest, with even an International Chamber of Commerce issuing an overt threat to Singapore and Singaporeans:

Remember, all talent has choices. Why come here if they're not welcome: S'pore Int’l Commerce
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...t-welcome-spore-int%92l-commerce-6376471.html

‘They are leaving us to die’: International students on Govt bond unable to find job
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...udents-govt-bond-unable-find-job-6378729.html

And worse, the 158th rank national media becomes complicit by being the mouthpiece of these entitled foreigners in a foreign land with their own selfish economic agendas; rather than a voice of the small people, the citizens-in-the-street toiling daily to find good jobs with good wages to feed their families in their homeland.

Now today after 16 years of FTs and open-door policies, Singapore can only create low-level high risks jobs like swabbers, safe-distance ambassadors, Grab delivery, hawker start-ups, dormitory supervisors etc. to serve and feed the 2.5 million foreigners that the LHL's administration had admitted in freely and provided opportunities of a lifetime to.
 

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This debacle as well as the MG Lessons are microcosms of what Singapore may become if foreigners are allowed to hold the country at ransom economically.

The Mandarin Gardens Lesson...how a group of Sporeans rise to reclaim control back from CECAs
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...-rise-reclaim-control-back-cecas-6369968.html

With such a key industry like Banking & Finance being dominated by 57% senior managers and decision-makers who are foreigners, Singapore is already at risk of being held ransom economically by foreigners.

BizTimes:::Singaporeans hold 43% of senior roles in financial sector: MAS
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...enior-roles-financial-sector-mas-6359254.html

Now foreigners are already getting more vocal in Singapore and a lot are acting in passive-aggressive modes - trying to hold the Singapore's economy at ransom.

Taiwanese in S'pore lost her job: If all the foreigners leave, who's going pay the rent for condos?
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...leave-whos-going-pay-rent-condos-6369897.html

Wife of Euro expat in S'pore: Society has turned suddenly against foreigners, waiting to kick u out
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...st-foreigners-waiting-kick-u-out-6369886.html

Sacked Indian EP holder: My breaking pt would be if employer tell me, sorry I won’t employ Indians
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...e-sorry-i-won%92t-employ-indians-6369875.html

NUS foreign student grad: Sent 75 applications for STEM job, only 1 offer which was later rescinded
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...job-only-1-offer-later-rescinded-6369880.html

And the latest, with even an International Chamber of Commerce issuing an overt threat to Singapore and Singaporeans:

Remember, all talent has choices. Why come here if they're not welcome: S'pore Int’l Commerce
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...t-welcome-spore-int%92l-commerce-6376471.html

‘They are leaving us to die’: International students on Govt bond unable to find job
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...udents-govt-bond-unable-find-job-6378729.html

And worse, the 158th rank national media becomes complicit by being the mouthpiece of these entitled foreigners in a foreign land with their own selfish economic agendas; rather than a voice of the small people, the citizens-in-the-street toiling daily to find good jobs with good wages to feed their families in their homeland.

Now today after 16 years of FTs and open-door policies, Singapore can only create low-level high risks jobs like swabbers, safe-distance ambassadors, Grab delivery, hawker start-ups, dormitory supervisors etc. to serve and feed the 2.5 million foreigners that the LHL's administration had admitted in freely and provided opportunities of a lifetime to.

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