Official Shiny Things thread—Part III

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moolala

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I did?

I’ll repeat (for the umpteenth time) exactly what my views have been and still are with respect to the STI stocks, i.e. funds ES3 and G3B (and technically U.S. listed fund EWS, although that’s a weird one). For those planning to retire in Singapore (who have a right of retirement abode in Singapore, obviously), in my view it’s OK to have up to 20% of your portfolio invested in the STI stocks. “Up to 20%” does not mean “must be 20%” or even “must be.” 0% is also within the range I suggest. It’s up to you, of course. I’m just describing the range I’m comfortable with.

You can easily find my past comments about the STI stocks. I’ve explained my views on this subject in great detail. You’re also perfectly free to ignore my suggestions.

I don’t think people who invest in the STI funds are “losers.” They might be winners for all we know! The future isn’t written yet.

well, I didnt initiate the use of the term loser. The person who I quoted did. Was asking him the question back since he deem ppl who buy sti losers

since sti is so down, maybe, just maybe it has more upside than other overvalued markets, u never know, but it's performance has been subpar since the crash in March while spy has recovered and gone on to new highs

what im saying is dyodd and not listen blindly to anyone on the internet as u are fully responsible for ur own investing. I'm sure u would agree and that this is good advice
 

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I only know that he keep trumpeting about how great investment in USA and US stocks will be! Like real! :s13:
As usual, because he is a US person so you can guess why?!

I ever asked him about his returns and he didn't dare to reply! =:p
Must be very pathetic? :eek:

BBC watcher knows about investing more than most of the clueless here.

it's good to listen to him than your common village of friends.

;)
 

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Updated the app and it now shows a 100% loss on my vwrd? 90k of wealth wiped out overnight?

your holding is still there, I think something broke during their update again.
All your holding market value becomes 0
 

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Don't check on weekends when the markets are closed la. That's when they do maintenance
 

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What is AA?

The only result worth showing are for all to see daily on a blog.

For eg. My equity component beats the pure iwda or Vwra or Vusd hollow at the moment.

Does not mean my AA is best. On pure return basis, rarely any AA beats the market over time . Even some bloggers lose to the humble STI.

But on an overall return tailored to your acceptable risk tolerance, as long it works for u, that’s the best AA.

Although bonds meaningfully reduce overall risks. But the fact especially I seem to just look at the equity only.
Hence I realise there is an issue with my emotional well being. That what I actually need r likely more defensive stocks as I increase my equity component over time to 100.

I think Long ago I read about someone who just has 100 percent equity. But it’s an equity that is all defensive aka consumer staples mainly, utilities etc ..mainly dividends... with this he sticks to it for many years now old and rich. Unlikely to beat the market but if he were to take a global approach, he would always wonder whether TECH or Financials make sense and if he did, he likely be incorporating bonds hence 60/40 or so. Would that 60/40 beat his 100 percent equity defensive over 20 years? Unlikely...

Hi I got to ask, what is AA?
 

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A W-8BEN filing doesn't really expire, except if the facts reported on the form change. When any material facts change, you should file a new, also truthful W-8BEN (or W-9 if the new fact is you become a U.S. person).

Typically your broker will ask for a new W-8BEN filing every 3 years. Certain bad things are hypothetically possible if you fail to respond to your broker's request, or if the broker has reason to doubt the veracity of your filing. Your broker would likely be within its rights to: (1) liquidate your assets and close your account, and/or (2) assume the worst from a tax withholding point of view, that you are a tax delinquent U.S. person, and increase the amount of money withheld -- and send that money to the IRS. These outcomes are not particularly likely, but they're hypothetically possible.

In short, unless and until the facts change to require a new filing, don't worry about "expiration." Just respond to your broker's requests when/if they're made.

I submitted my WBEN form with a brokerage but have since closed my account with them so is my WBEN still valid? Its less than 3 years since submission.
 

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I submitted my WBEN form with a brokerage but have since closed my account with them so is my WBEN still valid? Its less than 3 years since submission.
If the details you reported haven’t changed, yes. However, if you’re trying to reestablish a relationship with that broker, they might ask for a new W-8BEN (W-9 if you’re a U.S. person).
 

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go and google VHNWI.

if u are at my level or above, then... yes, i will listen to u.

if not, pls know your place in life.L.

Good sir, would you be so gracious as to post your latest bank statement for our lowly eyes to gaze upon? We are clearly not on your level, and our unworthy selves can only hope to catch a glimpse of the greatness of a VHNWI such as yourself!
 

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wikipedia says HNWI is US$1m and VHNWI is US$5m (excluding primary residence).

I would actually be interested in learning more about how to invest after the portfolio goes past $1m and heads towards $5m. there is a shortfall of such info, especially from a risk management perspective.

ASSI might be VHNWI but I don't agree with his 100% Singapore stocks strategy, so hope to have other examples i can learn from =:p

* SIPC insurance will not be enough to cover their holdings so shouldn't put everything into ibkr?
* legal risk: laws on estate duty can change anytime (currently Ireland is 0 estate duty but laws can change).
 

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* legal risk: laws on estate duty can change anytime (currently Ireland is 0 estate duty but laws can change).

I feel that there is little risk in Ireland levying estate tax on foreign investors, unless they want a capital run.

I am more concerned if Singapore re-introduces estate tax. Anyway, there's no way to escape it unless you migrate elsewhere. So be it.
 

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wikipedia says HNWI is US$1m and VHNWI is US$5m (excluding primary residence).

I would actually be interested in learning more about how to invest after the portfolio goes past $1m and heads towards $5m. there is a shortfall of such info, especially from a risk management perspective.

ASSI might be VHNWI but I don't agree with his 100% Singapore stocks strategy, so hope to have other examples i can learn from =:p

* SIPC insurance will not be enough to cover their holdings so shouldn't put everything into ibkr?
* legal risk: laws on estate duty can change anytime (currently Ireland is 0 estate duty but laws can change).
Such terms will inflate over time. Perhaps in 10 years bankers will not bat an eyelid for anyone less than 10m
 

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Good sir, would you be so gracious as to post your latest bank statement for our lowly eyes to gaze upon? We are clearly not on your level, and our unworthy selves can only hope to catch a glimpse of the greatness of a VHNWI such as yourself!
not obliged.

there's good people like shiny things, bbc watcher, saxonceltic around guiding us.

if you numb-skulls can't appreciate their gesture of goodwill, at least don't troll and give dumbo comments.

that's all you need to do for your first step towards financial success.
 

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Then there must be tons of these "losers" on this thread since Shiny Things is a strong advocate of investing heavily in home market (regardless of size of home market relative to VTI). :s22:
that's where u have a brain and exercise discernment.

face palm moment.

no wonder, sg gov needs to import foreigners to replace the locals. (to the extent that they went to the gutter of gutters. shows how indoctrinated and lack of critical thinking sg citizens are.)
 

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Hello peeps.

A lurker in the thread for a while but as the conversation gets longer it just confuses the hell out of me more.

I come from an arts background so finances isn't exactly my expertise. And when I say that, I mean 0%. We like to make our pretty stuff but pretty stuff wouldn't feed us so i might as well start somewhere. Was trying to graduate from school and finding a job so by the time i realised, i am hitting 30 next year. Already a late boomer in this.

I have a friend who says he started investing in UTs and it is giving him a 4% dividend return every year which seems real appealing to me but as this thread hardly mentions UT but they sound like the same thing to me?!?!. We are kind of on the same faction as we will like to put our money somewhere and have someone do it for us and not think about it anymore if we have to.

Regarding ETFs, I see A35, ES3 G3B and IWDA while jumping pages here and there in this thread. I understand that ES3 and G3B is pretty much the same thing so I recently started 100/mth into G3B with POSB Invest-saver. TBH i did it so at least my money is somewhere and not being used to spend on useless stuff that i don't want to spend on but i just ended up spending on. How safe are these etf investments exactly, because the stocks that i understand seems to be a super risky thing and I will like to think that i'm a low risk investor.

I recently realised that I have saved up some pile of money(around 25k) in my bank so i will like to get some opinions on where i could just park my money somewhere and let the fairies do their jobs. I also have 15k in ssbs for 2 years now and the returns is around 2.3-2.4% at the end of it but i am inclined in leaving it as my emergency funds. I understand the etf investment seems to be a long term thing but can i get sell them and get the money back if i decide to buy a house when i hit 35?

Oh gawd. SG should teach us financial literacy when we are in sec school instead of literature.OTL
 
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1. Don't be blinded by "dividends". Look at overall return. Many dividend strategy focused strategies lose out to Mr Market index.

2. However, if the "dividends" helps in allaying your fears, then perhaps thats the right move, hence best you opt for distributing ETFs such as VWRD, VUSD, etc.

3. Discovering your risk appetite is challenging. It gets harder as you have larger sums.

4. I will start 20/80 AA. 20% VWRD, 80% MBH. Purpose of this fund is to finance your HDB BTO. Reinvest all proceeds asap.

5. Aim to purchase HDB BTO, the best you can get. ie. highest floor, best location etc.

6. the money in SSB should as much as possible be left there, as it will take forever to enjoy that return you get from SSB guaranteed. I would rather treat the SSB amount as your fixed income i.e. part of the 80% allocation to fixed income, and you create a separate emergency fund in pure cash kept separate.

7. I will not dca for a paltry amount of 25k. I'll just 20/80 it. Its just too little to cause any problems especially in a conservative allocation. In fact, statistical evidence say invest all now. Rebalance yearly. Rebalancing involves buying the lagging asset. Again, don't try touch the SSB.

8. Since HDB flat BTO is a very very very important goal. I can't see how you are ever going to be able to exceed the 20/80 AA.

9. Take in other people's opinion before committing. These next four months are fantastic times to start. Lots of volatility aka crashes and fear.

10. Be wary of possible interest rate rises in year 3 or 4. You might wish to shift some to cash especially when close to HDB purchase. The closer it gets, the close you must have your assets in cash like instruments ie SAFE as hell.

11. However, if HDB is a forgone goal. Then, I'm likely to aim 100% equity spread over next 1-2 years.

Hello peeps.

A lurker in the thread for a while but as the conversation gets longer it just confuses the hell out of me more.

I come from an arts background so finances isn't exactly my expertise. And when I say that, I mean 0%. We like to make our pretty stuff but pretty stuff wouldn't feed us so i might as well start somewhere. Was trying to graduate from school and finding a job so by the time i realised, i am hitting 30 next year. Already a late boomer in this.

I have a friend who says he started investing in UTs and it is giving him a 4% dividend return every year which seems real appealing to me but as this thread hardly mentions UT but they sound like the same thing to me?!?!. We are kind of on the same faction as we will like to put our money somewhere and have someone do it for us and not think about it anymore if we have to.

Regarding ETFs, I see A35, ES3 G3B and IWDA while jumping pages here and there in this thread. I understand that ES3 and G3B is pretty much the same thing so I recently started 100/mth into G3B with POSB Invest-saver. TBH i did it so at least my money is somewhere and not being used to spend on useless stuff that i don't want to spend on but i just ended up spending on. How safe are these etf investments exactly, because the stocks that i understand seems to be a super risky thing and I will like to think that i'm a low risk investor.

I recently realised that I have saved up some pile of money(around 25k) in my bank so i will like to get some opinions on where i could just park my money somewhere and let the fairies do their jobs. I also have 15k in ssbs for 2 years now and the returns is around 2.3-2.4% at the end of it but i am inclined in leaving it as my emergency funds. I understand the etf investment seems to be a long term thing but can i get sell them and get the money back if i decide to buy a house when i hit 35?

Oh gawd. SG should teach us financial literacy when we are in sec school instead of literature.OTL
 
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