Are you guys very surprised China can beat covid so easily but US+Europe cannot?

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Ang moh yolo tats y hard to contain. Tiong gov rule wit iron fist citizen all listen
 

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cos in USA, everyone can say and do things like these.

In China, u see the tiongs dare to disobey CCP anot
 

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TS dumb or what? LOL China can report any number and still believe? Pls throw TS to Wuhan ground zero.
 

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One clear evidence that China has indeed beat the virus is that during the long National day holidays in Octobers, inter states travel is allowed and has recovered by 70%. If it is not under control, their gov won't have allowed interstate travel. If it is not under control, recovering of 70% interstate travel will cause the virus to spread out of control as a result.
 

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I am very surprised. very developed vs developing country

Not surprise

China impose near total lockdown
China mandates facemask
China have tough lawmaking or non existing lawmaking
China does public shaming on errant citizens
China have less sense of individual freedom

Thats where western sense of individualism and personal rights and freedom doesn't work
 
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Believe what you guys want or dont want. But it's a fact that singapore is beating covid and that shows how important actions of the people are. You guai guai wear mask, scared of the law, the numbers go down. You insist on freedom and your rights more than your health, the numbers will go up. Not something difficult to understand.
 

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Not surprise

China impose near total lockdown
China mandates facemask
China have tough lawmaking or non existing lawmaking
China does public shaming on errant citizens
China have less sense of individual freedom

Thats where western sense of individualism and personal rights and freedom doesn't work

I doubt the narrative that the west prize freedom and individualism so there is no lockdown. I thought most of the western states were under lockdown? Now, Germany and france even have a second lockdown.

I think it is more because the execution is not as good as China. Actually don't tell me bcos the police respect freedom..didn't they just shoot the black with first sign of provocation?
 

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I doubt the narrative that the west prize freedom and individualism so there is no lockdown. I thought most of the western states were under lockdown? Now, Germany and france even have a second lockdown.

I think it is more because the execution is not as good as China. Actually don't tell me bcos the police respect freedom..didn't they just shoot the black with first sign of provocation?

While the western countries have lockdowns and social distancing in place, didn't you see the news about the populace not caring about it and having parties, finding ways to break the rules, protesting the rules etc.
 

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While the western countries have lockdowns and social distancing in place, didn't you see the news about the populace not caring about it and having parties, finding ways to break the rules, protesting the rules etc.

That is why I say the execution is bad. And don't tell me their law enforcement respect freedom etc etc..didn't they just shoot at the black?
 

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Not surprised at all

France 2nd lockdown uk also jialat
USA thick skin don’t want to admit
 

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That is why I say the execution is bad. And don't tell me their law enforcement respect freedom etc etc..didn't they just shoot at the black?

I think one think doesn't mean the other

Have you read news in USA of police arresting with arms people who breached Covid-19 rules?

Even the elites of US, Trump and gang got Covid-19 during Amy Barrett nomination announcement and no one wore facemasks. That tells you all you need to know why America's Covid-19 situation is so so bad
 

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And then what freedom..in Asia, Taiwanese have alot of democracy and freedom too but when the virus come, everybody know that wearing masks is a health issue and not a left vs right issue. In USA, wearing mask is construe as being brave and support for the incumbent president.

Same with hong kong, they are allowed to protest all they want, once the virus come, they know it is about health issue, better stop protesting for the time being..but the trump supporters just cannot see it this way.
 

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I think one think doesn't mean the other

Have you read news in USA of police arresting with arms people who breached Covid-19 rules?

Even the elites of US, Trump and gang got Covid-19 during Amy Barrett nomination announcement and no one wore facemasks. That tells you all you need to know why America's Covid-19 situation is so so bad

Of course what you said is also true.

But I also doubt their execution ability. China can do swab test for 9 millions people in Qingdao with in days..I don't think USA will be able to execute this feat.
 

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Of course what you said is also true.

But I also doubt their execution ability. China can do swab test for 9 millions people in Qingdao with in days..I don't think USA will be able to execute this feat.

You realise this "China is in a mess and hiding their true figures" is a Trump false narrative to cover his own failings

No doubt China hides things but what they're doing in Xinjiang is widely publicized

If China have hundreds of thousands of covid19 cases they cover up, then where do they go?

Secret military hospitals because they can't go to public hospitals?

So China must be shipping hundreds of thousands in buses or trains or MRTs which no one has seen?

And who are the thousands of doctors and nurses taking care of them?
And no trace of the millions spent on medicine treating them?

And when larger than normal numbers of people die and are cremated, satellite can't detect that?
Or they just throw the bodies in the factories and plants and let the thousand of degrees burning there burn the corpses to a crisp
 

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You realise this "China is in a mess and hiding their true figures" is a Trump false narrative to cover his own failings

No doubt China hides things but what they're doing in Xinjiang is widely publicized

If China have hundreds of thousands of covid19 cases they cover up, then where do they go?

Secret military hospitals because they can't go to public hospitals?

So China must be shipping hundreds of thousands in buses or trains or MRTs which no one has seen?

And who are the thousands of doctors and nurses taking care of them?
And no trace of the millions spent on medicine treating them?

And when larger than normal numbers of people die and are cremated, satellite can't detect that?
Or they just throw the bodies in the factories and plants and let the thousand of degrees burning there burn the corpses to a crisp

True. You can't just say everything their numbers are fake one. Like i said, their tourist sites were filled with people during the long national days holidays.
 

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True. You can't just say everything their numbers are fake one. Like i said, their tourist sites were filled with people during the long national days holidays.

I think its well known their local government fudge their figures to make themselves look good and even the central government will fudge with it to make themselves look good

But whats clear is Trump messed up the situation totally in USA and many Americans see it and know it and thats why Trump will get voted out

The irony!
An unknown disease in China caused him to be voted out and probably he'll get sued after that
 
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