New HDB BTO Flat - How do you connect your Home Fiber Network

[xiaofan]

I am thinking of having a Tuf-AX3000 at D1, maybe the 5G signal can still be strong at BR3.

There is a 8 port switch in the cabinet behind the main door(D1-D6). Initially, I had placed the router at the cabinet using D3 to connect to ONT and D4 to connect to another switch at the TV console. But I find the 5G signal is very weak in the kitchen. So I reconfigure the router at TV console (D3 and D4). Thinking of adding another router AX3000 at D1 to create an aimesh (and reduce the number of switches).

You can try TUF AX3000 at D1 in the maater room to see if that is okay for the bedroom 3 or not. If not you can get another RT-AX56U at D6 in the bedroom 3..

 

[xiaofan]

More complicated cases with ONT/ONR in the DB box and dual 1Gbps plan.

I am not sure if there are better ways to reduce the need of LAN ports in the living room in Case 1 and 3 if need to use dual wan load balancing to achieve higher performance.

1) Starhub 2Gbps plan (actually dual 1Gbps) with Starhub Fibre TV Set Top box

ONT Port 1 -- Living Room Port 1 -- Dual WAN capable router
ONT Port 3 -- Living Room Port 2 -- Dual WAN capable router

ONT Port 2 -- Living Room Port 3 -- Starhub Fibre TV Set Top Box

Dual WAN capable router -- Living Room Port 4 -- switch in DB box -- LAN ports in rooms

2) MyRepublic 1+1 Gbps plan will be similar to the above, just minus the Set Top box

3) Singtel 1+1Gbps plan with Singtel TV box

ONR Port 4 bridged port-- Living Room Port 1 -- RT-AX86U WAN1

ONT Port 3 -- Living Room Port 2 -- RT-AX86U WAN2

ONT Port 1 -- Living Room Port 3 -- Singtel TV box

RT-AX86U -- Living Room Port 4 -- switch in DB box -- LAN ports in rooms

4) SingTel 2Gbps is simpler

ONR Port 1 - Living Room Port 1 -- wireless AP1

ONR Port 2 -- Living Room Port 2 -- SingTel TV box

ONR Port 3 -- room LAN port -- wireless AP2

ONR Port 4 -- room LAN port -- wireless AP3 if needed

5) Viewquest 2Gbps will be similar to SingTel 2Gbps, just minus the SingTel TV box

ONR Port 1 - Living Room Port 1 -- wireless AP1

ONR Port 2 -- room LAN port -- wireless AP2

ONR Port 3 -- room LAN port -- wireless AP3 if needed

ONR Port 4 -- room LAN port -- wireless AP4 if needed

 

[Besaid]

Have anyone tried buying server rack accessories from this Carouseller?
https://www.carousell.sg/titan.pte.ltd
The price is a lot more affordable than others. But is this a case of cheap stuffs dont come good?
Are there any other recommended places to get stuffs like shelves, PDU and patch panels?

 

[Phen8210]

standalone router inside patch panel, the rest switches/ap/devices all outside in their respective rooms.

for new hdb bto, best is to get a standalone router. Dont put an AP inside the cabinet, its dumb

 

[Feeshball]

Hello guys, need a little help on the layout here

Have 2 routers:

• RT-AX58U
• RT-AX88U

The idea is to put AX58U in the living and AX88U in the BR2 study.

However, the issue is that if I have AX88U in the study as the main router, I'd have to do something like

ONT > Modem > DB port 1 > AX88U (and then run another point back into the DB box to a switch to service the other DB ports)


The other way is to do something like

ONT > Modem > AX58U (in db box) > DB port 1 > AX88U in AP mode

the same setup above in AiMesh setup should also be fine theoretically as well, but the downside is having the 58U as the main router.

Just wanna know what you guys think of this setup?

Thanks

 

[gregory_choo]

Hello guys, need a little help on the layout here

Have 2 routers:

• RT-AX58U
• RT-AX88U

The idea is to put AX58U in the living and AX88U in the BR2 study.

However, the issue is that if I have AX88U in the study as the main router, I'd have to do something like

ONT > Modem > DB port 1 > AX88U (and then run another point back into the DB box to a switch to service the other DB ports)


The other way is to do something like

ONT > Modem > AX58U (in db box) > DB port 1 > AX88U in AP mode

the same setup above in AiMesh setup should also be fine theoretically as well, but the downside is having the 58U as the main router.

Just wanna know what you guys think of this setup?

Thanks

what's wrong with "having the 58U as the main router"?

btw, it is not a good idea to put wireless router in the DB.

 

[shadow84]

what's wrong with "having the 58U as the main router"?

btw, it is not a good idea to put wireless router in the DB.

By using the AX58U as main and AX88U as AiMesh node, you are crippling the performance of the AX88U / not fully utilising it. Usually for AiMesh nodes, ppl either use the same model as main or lower.

 

[Feeshball]

By using the AX58U as main and AX88U as AiMesh node, you are crippling the performance of the AX88U / not fully utilising it. Usually for AiMesh nodes, ppl either use the same model as main or lower.

Yup, this was the reason. One solution I guess is to use this setup temporarily, then get Edgerouter in the future to take its place, and then I'll be able to use the AX58U in the living room.

I really don't want to run another cable in the BR2 study back to the DB box. So in the above solution, the 88U is just an AP.

 

[gregory_choo]

By using the AX58U as main and AX88U as AiMesh node, you are crippling the performance of the AX88U / not fully utilising it. Usually for AiMesh nodes, ppl either use the same model as main or lower.

what are the features not utilised? )

 

[gregory_choo]

Yup, this was the reason. One solution I guess is to use this setup temporarily, then get Edgerouter in the future to take its place, and then I'll be able to use the AX58U in the living room.

I really don't want to run another cable in the BR2 study back to the DB box. So in the above solution, the 88U is just an AP.

yes. using a edger router is a better way. cheaper than running another cable too.

 

[Besaid]

Hi everyone,
I am planning to my resale setup's network with a 12U server rack consisting of a UDM Pro, 16 port Switch, a NAS and a few IoT hubs.
As all these would definitely not fit into the DB Box, is the bomb shelter actually a practical place for the rack?
And if yes, what kinda rack should i get? On the floor with castor wheel, to wall mount it, or place on another steel rack that we usually install in the shelter?

 

[cannot.remember]

Hi all,

Have a new BTO coming in 4 to 5 months time so I'm doing some planning. I think I will go with either StarHub or MyRepublic 1 gbps plan so should be getting an ONT. It's a new BTO and I think it should come with LAN points in all the rooms already.

Floorplan here: https://ibb.co/GWdYZGJ

I plan to do the following:

ONT (in DB Box) -> #Router WAN port -> #Router LAN port 1 -> Patch Panel -> LAN Point in Living Room -> #AP1 WAN port (then can connect to TV and PS5 via LAN)

ONT (in DB Box) -> #Router WAN port -> #Router LAN port 2 -> Patch Panel -> LAN Point in Bedroom 3 ->#AP2 WAN port (then can connect to PC via LAN)

Some of my queries are:
1. Will the above work?
2. What should #Router, #AP1 and #AP2 be? Would Huawei AX3 Pro or Xiaomi AX6000 be good enough? Or should I get Ubiquiti products? Heard that the Edgerouter is suitable to be placed in the DB box
3. I plan to stream movies from my PC to the Living Room TV. Would a NAS be recommended or is streaming via a home media server sufficient? Since the TV will be connected to the PC in the same LAN network, streaming 4k content should be ok?

 

[Mach3.2]

Hi everyone,
I am planning to my resale setup's network with a 12U server rack consisting of a UDM Pro, 16 port Switch, a NAS and a few IoT hubs.
As all these would definitely not fit into the DB Box, is the bomb shelter actually a practical place for the rack?
And if yes, what kinda rack should i get? On the floor with castor wheel, to wall mount it, or place on another steel rack that we usually install in the shelter?

It's a bomb shelter, so I doubt it's legal to drill the walls. You're also limited by that 1*Cat 6 cable that goes from the DB closet into the bomb shelter.

Putting that aside, 12U on castor wheels would be the route I go, it gives you flexibility in the event you want to relocate your rack too.

 

[keithster]

What is the size of ur bto?

If not too big just deploy a Wifi-6 router at the passageway & it should be good for the whole hse.

Jus pull a patch cable to the passageway from PD box, while retaining the NTU inside the PD box.

If u have TVs in all ur bedrooms tat require consistent internet, jus spread ur patch cables from the router in the passageway to all ur bedrooms and living room will do.

Which means end of the day, u need only 1 Wifi-6 router. I am using Asus AX-88 router

 

[xiaofan]

Hi all,

Have a new BTO coming in 4 to 5 months time so I'm doing some planning. I think I will go with either StarHub or MyRepublic 1 gbps plan so should be getting an ONT. It's a new BTO and I think it should come with LAN points in all the rooms already.

Floorplan here: https://ibb.co/GWdYZGJ

I plan to do the following:

ONT (in DB Box) -> #Router WAN port -> #Router LAN port 1 -> Patch Panel -> LAN Point in Living Room -> #AP1 WAN port (then can connect to TV and PS5 via LAN)

ONT (in DB Box) -> #Router WAN port -> #Router LAN port 2 -> Patch Panel -> LAN Point in Bedroom 3 ->#AP2 WAN port (then can connect to PC via LAN)

Some of my queries are:
1. Will the above work?
2. What should #Router, #AP1 and #AP2 be? Would Huawei AX3 Pro or Xiaomi AX6000 be good enough? Or should I get Ubiquiti products? Heard that the Edgerouter is suitable to be placed in the DB box
3. I plan to stream movies from my PC to the Living Room TV. Would a NAS be recommended or is streaming via a home media server sufficient? Since the TV will be connected to the PC in the same LAN network, streaming 4k content should be ok?

1) If you Ubiquiti Edge Router, then yes this plan will work. It is more suitable than wireless router to be put in the DB box.

2) Your current placement of AP#2 may not be good. It may leave the master room to have weak signal. I will suggest to put AP#2 in master room or bedroom 2.

ONT (in DB Box) -> EdgeRouter WAN port -> EdgeRouter LAN port 1 -> Patch Panel -> LAN Point in Living Room -> UniFi PoE switch --> Unifi Ceiling Mout AP as #AP1 (better to put at a central location in the living room, eg: Unifi AC Pro, Unifi NanoHD, or Unifi 6 Lite or 6 LR, etc).

Unifi PoE switch -- TV and PS5

EdgeRouter LAN port 2 -> Patch Panel -> LAN Point in master room ->Unifi Inwall AP as #AP2 (if necessary)

EdgeRouter LAN port 3 -> Patch Panel -> LAN Point in Bedroom 3 -> PC

Of course you can still use Huawei AX3 Pro (low cost, lower performance than Xiaomi AX6000) or Xiaomi AX6000 as AP#1 and AP#2 as well. It is said that Xiaomi AX6000 supports mesh in AP mode, right out of the box. And I have also tested that Huawei AX3 Pro also supports mesh in AP mode. Between Xiaomi AX6000 and Huawei AX3 Pro, I will recommend Xiaomi AX6000 as it should have higher performance and more future proof.

3) You can always use a PC as the media server first before using an NAS. NAS usually has lower end CPU unless you go high cost one.

 

[uncle_josh]

For your setup, your MBR will get very poor signal.
Since it is a new BTO, I would suggestthat you plan a LAN points for every room.

If you plan to get Huawei AX3 Pro or Xiaomi AX6000, since these are wifi routers, it is recommended that you place it in the Living room at the TV area so that the wifi signal could propagate. Then your setup will have to change a bit, 2 LAN points at the TV area.

ONT > Modem > DB port 1 > Huawei AX3 Pro or Xiaomi AX6000 then LAN point from Huawei or Xiaomi router to 2nd LAN port to run another point back into the DB box to a switch to service the other DB ports)

If you plan to use the Ubiquiti - EdgeRouter™,then place the router in the DB as per your plan.

Because the router is not at the centre of the house, your 2nd AP is recommended to be in BR2 or MBR.

Either get 2x Huawei AX3 Pro or 2x Xiaomi AX6000, so that they can configure to run as a mesh network. And use ethernet backhaul

Hi all,

Have a new BTO coming in 4 to 5 months time so I'm doing some planning. I think I will go with either StarHub or MyRepublic 1 gbps plan so should be getting an ONT. It's a new BTO and I think it should come with LAN points in all the rooms already.

Floorplan here: https://ibb.co/GWdYZGJ

I plan to do the following:

ONT (in DB Box) -> #Router WAN port -> #Router LAN port 1 -> Patch Panel -> LAN Point in Living Room -> #AP1 WAN port (then can connect to TV and PS5 via LAN)

ONT (in DB Box) -> #Router WAN port -> #Router LAN port 2 -> Patch Panel -> LAN Point in Bedroom 3 ->#AP2 WAN port (then can connect to PC via LAN)

Some of my queries are:
1. Will the above work?
2. What should #Router, #AP1 and #AP2 be? Would Huawei AX3 Pro or Xiaomi AX6000 be good enough? Or should I get Ubiquiti products? Heard that the Edgerouter is suitable to be placed in the DB box
3. I plan to stream movies from my PC to the Living Room TV. Would a NAS be recommended or is streaming via a home media server sufficient? Since the TV will be connected to the PC in the same LAN network, streaming 4k content should be ok?

 

[gregory_choo]

Hi all,

Have a new BTO coming in 4 to 5 months time so I'm doing some planning. I think I will go with either StarHub or MyRepublic 1 gbps plan so should be getting an ONT. It's a new BTO and I think it should come with LAN points in all the rooms already.

Floorplan here: https://ibb.co/GWdYZGJ

I plan to do the following:

ONT (in DB Box) -> #Router WAN port -> #Router LAN port 1 -> Patch Panel -> LAN Point in Living Room -> #AP1 WAN port (then can connect to TV and PS5 via LAN)

ONT (in DB Box) -> #Router WAN port -> #Router LAN port 2 -> Patch Panel -> LAN Point in Bedroom 3 ->#AP2 WAN port (then can connect to PC via LAN)

Some of my queries are:
1. Will the above work?
2. What should #Router, #AP1 and #AP2 be? Would Huawei AX3 Pro or Xiaomi AX6000 be good enough? Or should I get Ubiquiti products? Heard that the Edgerouter is suitable to be placed in the DB box
3. I plan to stream movies from my PC to the Living Room TV. Would a NAS be recommended or is streaming via a home media server sufficient? Since the TV will be connected to the PC in the same LAN network, streaming 4k content should be ok?

looks alright.

suggest to use 2 or 3 Huawei AX3 Pro as AP.

the signal at MBR may be lower, but don't have to worry, do a test after you install the routers/aps, if the speed is not good enough, you can either shift the AP from Rm3 to Rm2 or MBR. Or just add another AP at MBR.

using a few Huawei AX3 Pro give you mesh network feature, so that you can roaming free in your house and you will be connected to the best AP.

Huawei AX3 Pro is using beam forming, it can penetrate wall better than other routers, so your initial design might work. But once again, since you have lan point in all your rooms, you can place the routers at different locations to get the best result.

streaming 4k video is not too demanding, the most you need about 200Mbps , or 30Mbps if you are talking about netflix/youtube type of 4k video that has higher compression rate.

 

[micgoh]

Hi I'm also having the same layout as the below mention.

I signed up for M1 fibre 1gbps.coming to install next Tuesday

So far I heard from M1 is they will bring their Huawei Modemn. They have issued me with the Asus RT-AX55 router already.

I saw someone mention about Edgerouter. Qn is :

From TP point connect to Huawei Modemn to Asus AX55 router. The Asus AX55 router is best to place outside the dB box for better signal right?

Then Edgerouter put inside Mbr is it? Does it works like the velop where I only need to connect power or I also need to run a lan cable from it all the way back to the Asus router?

 

[gregory_choo]

Hi I'm also having the same layout as the below mention.

I signed up for M1 fibre 1gbps.coming to install next Tuesday

So far I heard from M1 is they will bring their Huawei Modemn. They have issued me with the Asus RT-AX55 router already.

I saw someone mention about Edgerouter. Qn is :

From TP point connect to Huawei Modemn to Asus AX55 router. The Asus AX55 router is best to place outside the dB box for better signal right?

Then Edgerouter put inside Mbr is it? Does it works like the velop where I only need to connect power or I also need to run a lan cable from it all the way back to the Asus router?

no. the edger router should be placed in DB.

you can put the Asus AX55 in your living room or MBR. you may need to buy another wireless router/AP if the coverage is not good enough.

if yours is a new BTO, all rooms should have lan point with connection to DB.

 

[cannot.remember]

Thank you all for the replies! It looks like I will get an EdgeRouter then link it to 2 Xiaomi AX6000s. What EdgeRouter should I get though? ER-4 is $282 on Lazada.

Alternatively, I can do what uncle_josh suggested and have 2 LAN points in the Living Room to link the main router back to the DB Box then to the other AP. Will have to check the cost for adding an additional LAN point in the Living Room that is linked to the DB box. Anyone have any idea? Will trunking be required or can the electrician just split the existing LAN point into 2? Also, if I went with this route, what switch should i get to be put in the DB box?