M1 FIBRE BROADBAND DISCUSSION - Part 2

[sparky3]

Any expert here can advise where is the best place to put my node? I bought the Asus CT8 from M1, and need help with the placement of the second node. Attached is the floe plan.. Location: A;B;C or D??

Thank you.

 

[magix]

Any expert here can advise where is the best place to put my node? I bought the Asus CT8 from M1, and need help with the placement of the second node. Attached is the floe plan.. Location: A;B;C or D??

Thank you.

I choose A first follow by C.

you planning wireless or wire backhaul?

 

[watzup_ken]

Coming on board from SH to M1. Lets see how is the whole xperience been like?

From sign up to the first appt, the whole ordeal been quite bad and the people in the chat and hotline just keep pushing the situation around without resolutions.

I feel this is a typical scenario regardless of ISP. When there's no issue, things will flow smoothly. When something goes wrong, there will be a lot of finger pointing and delays.

 

[watzup_ken]

Any expert here can advise where is the best place to put my node? I bought the Asus CT8 from M1, and need help with the placement of the second node. Attached is the floe plan.. Location: A;B;C or D??

Thank you.

Based on the options available, I agree point A is the best. But if you can, actually having it outside bedroom 3 (near the door) in the living room is better since there is no obstruction from the satellite unit to the main unit, and its in the center of the house.

Its better for the satellite unit to have a strong connection to the main unit than for your device to have a strong signal from the satellite unit. It gives you the false impression that you have a strong signal in your bedroom, but because the comms between the 2 unit is weaker, you are getting an overall slower connection.

 

[sparky3]

I am using wireless.. understand the CT8 is triband.

 

[bert64]

It's actually not outdate, Last Updated: April 2021. some details how they derive the ranking: ispspeedindex.netflix.net/about. They mention they'll include the ISP in the comparison if user population of that ISP is larger than 1%.

I assume Netflix should be fair and have enough data to plot the comparison.
Compare the ranking with this. www.speedtest.net/awards/singapore/
I find it quite interesting.

Yeah but like all such comparisons, take with a grain of salt...

For netflix and speedtest, there are local servers, all the isps peer with large content providers like netflix and host their own speedtest servers, and everyone in the country can get fibre. Anyone who's using an ethernet connection *can* get 1gbps to speedtest or netflix with any isp in the country, and testing conducted equally (ie using the same equipment and conditions for each provider) is going to produce the same results for all providers within a small margin of error.

What's going to have more of an effect on performance here is end user equipment and things like wifi signal strength, factors which are outside the provider's control.

It's different in other larger countries, where fibre rollout is patchy and you will have users on a mix of different connection types. Some cities in the US for instance have fibre and can get 1gbps, whereas some places don't even have adsl and people are still using dialup, and often at rates considerably lower than 56k because of line length and quality.

What really matters when comparing providers is peering and internaional uplinks, support for ipv6, lack of or level of traffic throttling, lack of cgnat, ability to use own equipment vs forced to use supplied equipment etc. Neither the netflix nor speedtest stats take any of this into account.

 

[asianfish]

Hi guys need some advice here. I am confused about wifi mesh, wireless repeater & Node.

If I want my whole place(2 rooms and living room) to be covered, which should I be getting?

 

[Apex]

Hi guys need some advice here. I am confused about wifi mesh, wireless repeater & Node.

If I want my whole place(2 rooms and living room) to be covered, which should I be getting?

Get a mesh.

If you have network point around your house a dual band mesh is good enough.

If you plan to run wireless backhual than get a mesh with tri band wifi. It 'help' to keep the wifi speed

 

[cscs3]

so what is the result of the tesing - m1 vs SH?

Think I post it before. If you happen to go conference call with M1, frequently audi will get break up.

 

[lobukong]

Yeah but like all such comparisons, take with a grain of salt...

For netflix and speedtest, there are local servers, all the isps peer with large content providers like netflix and host their own speedtest servers, and everyone in the country can get fibre. Anyone who's using an ethernet connection *can* get 1gbps to speedtest or netflix with any isp in the country, and testing conducted equally (ie using the same equipment and conditions for each provider) is going to produce the same results for all providers within a small margin of error.

What's going to have more of an effect on performance here is end user equipment and things like wifi signal strength, factors which are outside the provider's control.

It's different in other larger countries, where fibre rollout is patchy and you will have users on a mix of different connection types. Some cities in the US for instance have fibre and can get 1gbps, whereas some places don't even have adsl and people are still using dialup, and often at rates considerably lower than 56k because of line length and quality.

What really matters when comparing providers is peering and internaional uplinks, support for ipv6, lack of or level of traffic throttling, lack of cgnat, ability to use own equipment vs forced to use supplied equipment etc. Neither the netflix nor speedtest stats take any of this into account.

I also thought maybe user's WIFi router plays a more important role in affecting the charts than the ISP.

However then I notice that it actually have a monthly history for all the ISP, and last December, all ISP can achieve 3.8. This shows that bottleneck is not from user's routers as user's router wont change according to month.

So I suspect the score is affected by Netflix's own server load as well as ISP. Then netflix's server is the same in Singapore, so the relative performance, aka ranking, is somehow worth considering. I also find it interesting because this ranking, by Netflix, somehow coincide with the user reviews in this forum. As opposed to the ranking by speedtest.

 

[Q10spy]

May I know if this a lousy router??

It's not lousy, It is not the best router but it does the job well and its wifi6. Positioning plays a key role in getting good signal. Mount this router at the "near center" of your flat then it will cover all the blind spots. No need to get those fancy meshes. Best of all its FREE in 1gbps plan.

 

[asianfish]

Get a mesh.

If you have network point around your house a dual band mesh is good enough.

If you plan to run wireless backhual than get a mesh with tri band wifi. It 'help' to keep the wifi speed

Should I get Google nest wifi or the latest wifi-6 TP-LINK Deco X60?

 

[Apex]

Should I get Google nest wifi or the latest wifi-6 TP-LINK Deco X60?

If getting new router i will go for WIFI 6 Deco X60.

No point invest on old WIFI 5 hardware.

 

[mun]

Think I post it before. If you happen to go conference call with M1, frequently audi will get break up.

Thanks for sharing again. was thinking to sign up m1 next mth. now, will consider SH if ST has no better offers for my renewal.

 

[asianfish]

If getting new router i will go for WIFI 6 Deco X60.

No point invest on old WIFI 5 hardware.

I will be signing up as a new user. If I get the WIFI 6 Deco X60, Will the modem provided by M1 be good enough or I need to purchase my own modem?

 

[watzup_ken]

Think I post it before. If you happen to go conference call with M1, frequently audi will get break up.

Actually I never run into this issue when using M1. Same goes for my experience with Starhub now.

 

[cscs3]

Thanks for sharing again. was thinking to sign up m1 next mth. now, will consider SH if ST has no better offers for my renewal.

In term of price. I think M1 still the cheapest.

 

[Apex]

I will be signing up as a new user. If I get the WIFI 6 Deco X60, Will the modem provided by M1 be good enough or I need to purchase my own modem?

The ONT (the so called modem is not really a modem but a fiber optical terminal)

Everyone in SG used the same huawei ONT issue by M1. U got to use whatever M1 issue you for ONT.

 

[FireHobbit]

For ONT there are two models issued by M1 for new installations depends on the model avaliability on that day. For today is my installation and i checked with the installer.

Today i learn when using the new setup, eveytime u have a new router change, need to call m1 press 2 then 2 then 5 to ask reset of ONT connection. din have this issues last timr when i am with starhub.

 

[FireHobbit]

I select ax 55 as the router for my new sign up.

surprise they give me a white colour router and while ont. look nice for my new place

Here is a link how the limited edition white ax55 look like

https://klseet.com/networking/asus/asus-rt-ax55-limited-white-edition