MoCA Network Setup | Ethernet over TV cable

[XiaoFu99]

I have been reading this with great interest and was tempted to start a new project for home networking. However, I was wondering, for newer flats built after the death of cable tv, are these coaxial points still being installed?

I ask because I'm definitely going to shift at some point in the future and possibly to a new BTO. Wonder if anyone living in the newer estates can shed some light on their cabling.

For new BTO, they come with LAN points at all rooms, so does coaxial point still matter in this case?

And assuming that 4 LAN points are insufficient, usually they will convert the telephone point to LAN point for additional ports.

 

[XiaoFu99]

GoCoax MoCA with 2.5GbE seems to be available after months of delay @ USD 74.99

https://www.gocoax.com/product-page/ma2500d

 

[gaolatjialat]

I have a question, am connecting 3 coax points in my house with a 2-way splitter (5-1000MHz).
Will it result in a slower speed for the Coax point connected to the splitter 'INPUT' since the (1125-1675MHz) frequency is not utilised?

Am using a MA2500D adapter for each coax point, haven't got a chance to test the speed yet since my fibre service will only start next week

 

[XiaoFu99]

I have a question, am connecting 3 coax points in my house with a 2-way splitter (5-1000MHz).
Will it result in a slower speed for the Coax point connected to the splitter 'INPUT' since the (1125-1675MHz) frequency is not utilised?

Am using a MA2500D adapter for each coax point, haven't got a chance to test the speed yet since my fibre service will only start next week

Why don't you try it out since it's already been connected? You do not need the fiber connection to test linkage and speed across each node. You just need 2 computer/laptop will do.

 

[Cookie Muncher]

recently i asked about network setup in this thread , was recommended mesh but it can be very pricey.

i noticed there are cable points done up around the house many years back and i came across MOCA when i thought of removing the cable point/box since i thought there was no use for it.

how do i set up MOCA with fiber connection? the ONT point and router is in the living room and there's also a cable point over there. i also have the cable point in the room.

Where can i buy the device and what do you recommend? i tried googling MoCA adapter but no one is selling in sg

 

[XiaoFu99]

recently i asked about network setup in this
thread
, was recommended mesh but it can be very pricey.
i noticed there are cable points done up around the house many years back and i came across MOCA when i thought of removing the cable point/box since i thought there was no use for it.
how do i set up MOCA with fiber connection? the ONT point and router is in the living room and there's also a cable point over there. i also have the cable point in the room.
Where can i buy the device and what do you recommend? i tried googling MoCA adapter but no one is selling in sg

GoCoax maybe the more popular and reasonably price MoCA. you can try buying from Amazon which maybe cheaper in shipping.

proposed connection:

ont -> router -> moca -> cable point @ living room -> cable point @ bedroom -> moca -> wireless AP or switch or pc


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[firesong]

Curious. Does anyone know what the speeds are like for the Starhub CableTV MoCA boxes?

My friend cancelled her secondary box and has two of these MoCA adaptors lying around. Was thinking of adding an access point instead, but if the MoCA speed is poor, then it's a pointless initiative.

Edit: I would typically run cables, but that time around the StarHub guys were reluctant to lay the cable and convinced her to use a pair of cheap looking MoCA adaptors.

 

[xiaofan]

Curious. Does anyone know what the speeds are like for the Starhub CableTV MoCA boxes?
My friend cancelled her secondary box and has two of these MoCA adaptors lying around. Was thinking of adding an access point instead, but if the MoCA speed is poor, then it's a pointless initiative.
Edit: I would typically run cables, but that time around the StarHub guys were reluctant to lay the cable and convinced her to use a pair of cheap looking MoCA adaptors.

Starhub ones are not using MOCA technology and speed will be much slower, probably around (or even) below 100Mbps, but good enough for the their TV box (up to 1080p only).

Edit to add: as per the early post, most likely they are following the IMDA standard here. It does mention the speed though.
https://www.imda.gov.sg/-/media/imd...ication-standards/line/imda-ts-cchn.pdf?la=en

 

[xiaofan]

Starhub Ethernet Over Coaxial Converter (EOCC) for Fibre TV, support up to 4 Fibre TV set-top boxes
https://www.starhub.com/personal/support/article.html?id=vzdBzL2c7K5Zpr7lYUo826
Starhub Ethernet Over Coaxial (EOC) for Fibre TV, support only 1 Fibre TV set-top boxes
https://www.starhub.com/personal/support/article.html?id=PDr3YGLC7B44D2ZlB8GyU7

 

[Cookie Muncher]

GoCoax maybe the more popular and reasonably price MoCA. you can try buying from Amazon which maybe cheaper in shipping.

proposed connection:

ont -> router -> moca -> cable point @ living room -> cable point @ bedroom -> moca -> wireless AP or switch or pc


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Thx for your advice. Pardon me I'm still quite puzzled how to setup moca and how it works.

1. I just checked the box, there's FM and TV. Does this make any difference? Which to use?

2. If there are other cable points, does it means i can connect any/all cable points to moca adapter and use?

3. The moca in the bedroom, can i connect it to a wireless router?

4. Gocoax, do you need power source? US plug?

5. Any cons or difficulties with moca setup?

 

[XiaoFu99]

Thx for your advice. Pardon me I'm still quite puzzled how to setup moca and how it works.

1. I just checked the box, there's FM and TV. Does this make any difference? Which to use?

2. If there are other cable points, does it means i can connect any/all cable points to moca adapter and use?

3. The moca in the bedroom, can i connect it to a wireless router?

4. Gocoax, do you need power source? US plug?

5. Any cons or difficulties with moca setup?

1. You should have a coaxial f-type connector that look like this

2. Yes, it should be.

3. You have 2 options here depending on what are you trying to achieve.

Option #1: ONT -> router -> MoCA -> cable point @ living room -> cable point @ bedroom -> MoCA -> wireless AP

Option #2: ONT -> MoCA -> cable point @ living room -> cable point @ bedroom -> MoCA -> wireless router

Option #1 is to expand your wireless coverage at your home using wired backhaul (e.g. Mesh).

Option #2 is to simply optimize your single router location for best coverage with a single device.

4. Yes, you need. If you buy directly from GoCoax website, you can specify that you need a UK prong. I did not buy from Amazon which I believe such an option may not be possible.

5. You have to spend $150~$170 for a pair of MoCA and this is on top of the Mesh (if that's what you are thinking). For gamers, it will introduce another 3~5ms delay of ping time which maybe crucial for you. Pro: It's the fastest and probably cheaper way (as compared with contractors laying CAT6 cable) of implementing wired connection between your rooms and living room.

 

[immodean]

I have a question, am connecting 3 coax points in my house with a 2-way splitter (5-1000MHz).
Will it result in a slower speed for the Coax point connected to the splitter 'INPUT' since the (1125-1675MHz) frequency is not utilised?

Am using a MA2500D adapter for each coax point, haven't got a chance to test the speed yet since my fibre service will only start next week

Hi there, I am interested in GoCoax as well, could you share your experience with this product preformance? Another critical thing is that since it is an American product, does the power supply suit Singapore voltage?

Thank you very much!

 

[Muneer1977]

Hi i have 2 splitters in my riser. To which Splitter i attach the POE filter

 

[Muneer1977]

Somehow managed to upload the pic. This is how it looks

There's actually 2 per house from the main distribution box. So if i were to install a POE filter do i have to do it to both ? Or i can combine both the splitter to a 6 way and jus install 1 poe ? Anyone ?

 

[XiaoFu99]

Hi i have 2 splitters in my riser. To which Splitter i attach the POE filter

It depends. Yours are similar to mine in term of split 2+3. The 2 is for living room and store room whereas the group of 3 is for bedroom. So depending where you need to connect the MoCA.

For my case is between living room and study room. So unplug the study room cable from group of 3 and storeroom from group of 2.

Thereafter, connect both living room and study room in the group of 2 splitter.

Which is which, trial and error for me.

In my opinion, POE filter is not necessary as you should disconnect the incoming signal entering the splitter to prevent signal leaking to other units. Since I already bought the POE filter together with my GoCoax, I attached to the IN port of the splitter, however, I still disconnect the incoming signal.

 

[Muneer1977]

It depends. Yours are similar to mine in term of split 2+3. The 2 is for living room and store room whereas the group of 3 is for bedroom. So depending where you need to connect the MoCA.

For my case is between living room and study room. So unplug the study room cable from group of 3 and storeroom from group of 2.

Thereafter, connect both living room and study room in the group of 2 splitter.

Which is which, trial and error for me.

In my opinion, POE filter is not necessary as you should disconnect the incoming signal entering the splitter to prevent signal leaking to other units. Since I already bought the POE filter together with my GoCoax, I attached to the IN port of the splitter, however, I still disconnect the incoming signal.

All the units in my blk have 2+3 splitters this is the picture from the panel cover.

My router is in the living room and i want to connect all my bedrooms using the coaxial cable. I have 4 units of the actiontec moca. So how do i go about it ?

 

[XiaoFu99]

All the units in my blk have 2+3 splitters this is the picture from the panel cover.

My router is in the living room and i want to connect all my bedrooms using the coaxial cable. I have 4 units of the actiontec moca. So how do i go about it ?

get a 4 way splitter. group of 3 cable and living room cable in a single splitter.

you just have to figure out which one belongs to living room from group of 2 splitter. 50-50% chance.


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[Muneer1977]

get a 4 way splitter. group of 3 cable and living room cable in a single splitter.

you just have to figure out which one belongs to living room from group of 2 splitter. 50-50% chance.



Can remove the cable in from the main (Group of 3) and replace it with out cable from (Group of 2) ? Will it work that way ? Is it a must for the in port to have a cable that need to be cmg in from the main ? I not really sure how these splitters work

 

[XiaoFu99]

since you have everything, why not try it out and save you $ from buying a 4-way splitter?


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[Muneer1977]

since you have everything, why not try it out and save you $ from buying a 4-way splitter?

Yeah will do that or get a 5-way splitter which will save me from a trial and error of which cable belongs to which room. Will post my findings. Anyways thanks for the assistance.