Those who use digital lock lip lai

[synthez]

Would like to ask for reviews and opinions between KeyWe 360 and Kaadas K9. Been reading through the past comments in this thread and they are helpful. Appreciate it.

Also considering if should get a gate lock to pair with as well (i.e KeyWe Damian or Kaadas R6G). In this regard, I'm leaning more to KeyWe Damian as they have fingerprint sensor for both inside and outside.

Previously considered Samsung and Starke but comments here have informed me of things I wouldn't know otherwise. Also considering Schlage but not as much as KeyWe or Kaadas.

Appreciate all advice and opinions. Thanks in advance.

I shared a youtube review video from a locksmith about Kaadas. It mentions the brand in general, not specific to the model you are looking at.

 

[Rnakee]

Any home owners facing tight space issue between door and gate?

space between my main door and gate is 70cm. Hence, cant opt for Aqara A100 design type of lock. Wanted Aqara cause of HomeKit

any way to extend the space? Such as re install gate outwards?

Same problem here.. but I think you mean 70mm instead of cm.
Mine 70mm the door handle is rubbing against my gate already. Therefore clearance less then that.

Went to check out this brand call EAZEA, the sales girl say can fit my gap. Synchronised unlock for door and gate, however door lock is rim type lock which I don't really prefer

 

[leongws]

Hi for those who using LockIn S30 pro or Aqara D100, can I check with u something?

I understand for S30 pro, once the “tongue” was push back(door closing) when touching the strike plate,, the mortise lock will extrude out almost immediately automatically, in less than a second (from Alex YouTube video). I’m not sure D100 is it also in less than a second. As such was wondering are users using any door closer?

Reason asking is if using door closer, the speed near the end of door closing will slow down significantly to prevent a bang of the door. So if the “tongue” touches the strike plate when it is closing in slower speed, will the mortise lock extrude and hit the strike plate before the “hole” slot? Causing an alarm to inform user of jam/ door not closed properly…. My current lock auto lock only after 5 seconds so no issue currently.

Hopefully u get what I meant.

 

[TMBagain]

Would like to ask for reviews and opinions between KeyWe 360 and Kaadas K9. Been reading through the past comments in this thread and they are helpful. Appreciate it.

Also considering if should get a gate lock to pair with as well (i.e KeyWe Damian or Kaadas R6G). In this regard, I'm leaning more to KeyWe Damian as they have fingerprint sensor for both inside and outside.

Previously considered Samsung and Starke but comments here have informed me of things I wouldn't know otherwise. Also considering Schlage but not as much as KeyWe or Kaadas.

Appreciate all advice and opinions. Thanks in advance.

Keywe 360 looks like one of the many Korean ODM mould (copy) - I will dig out which one. My preference is to always get from the company that makes the lock than one that just chop their name on one that is manufactured by others.

Kaadas K9 is still using the old design of movable handle. I like a rigid handle.

Some Schlage are rebranded Milre. I don't like to pay premium for just minor changes (in alphabets).

I provided my thoughts on Damian a few pages back.

Those are my preferences if my opinions are asked.

 

[TMBagain]

Hi for those who using LockIn S30 pro or Aqara D100, can I check with u something?

I understand for S30 pro, once the “tongue” was push back(door closing) when touching the strike plate,, the mortise lock will extrude out almost immediately automatically, in less than a second (from Alex YouTube video). I’m not sure D100 is it also in less than a second. As such was wondering are users using any door closer?

Reason asking is if using door closer, the speed near the end of door closing will slow down significantly to prevent a bang of the door. So if the “tongue” touches the strike plate when it is closing in slower speed, will the mortise lock extrude and hit the strike plate before the “hole” slot? Causing an alarm to inform user of jam/ door not closed properly…. My current lock auto lock only after 5 seconds so no issue currently.

Hopefully u get what I meant.

My thoughts are:

. You need to call the vendor(s) as they are accountable to the outcome you are paying for and you need to phrase the question not as a comparison but to the point: if the door closes slowly at the tail end, will.......

. My feedback: Aqara D100 and my Lockin S30 Pro would work the same way. If the "tongue" (Chinese term, referring to wrong part, but understood) is depressed and the bolt will extrude. In practice, I experience the issue if the door is not closed properly (same with your current) . I do not experience issue with the slow speed of door closing at the tail end. But slow is too general to be of any specificity for this discussion. What is more practical is to know that different lock mortise exerts different pressure on the door strike on closing so you may have to adjust the door closer (being the adjustable component).

 

[nanotard]

Keywe 360 looks like one of the many Korean ODM mould (copy) - I will dig out which one. My preference is to always get from the company that makes the lock than one that just chop their name on one that is manufactured by others.

Kaadas K9 is still using the old design of movable handle. I like a rigid handle.

Some Schlage are rebranded Milre. I don't like to pay premium for just minor changes (in alphabets).

I provided my thoughts on Damian a few pages back.

Those are my preferences if my opinions are asked.

Appreciated! Thank you!

I shared a youtube review video from a locksmith about Kaadas. It mentions the brand in general, not specific to the model you are looking at.

Yes, I saw the videos you shared. Thank you!

 

[zenify.me]

Considering some of the retrofit options compatible with mortise thumb turn since I have doubts on the longevity of smart locks in the markets and the challenge of replacing them without leaving more holes behind and would just like to share some of the retrofit products here.

August
- Meant for deadbolt, my new place will come with mortise so it's not an option unless I were to install a deadbolt purely for using August.

Level
- Not meant outside of US in general, saw on review on Amazon that the app was not available outside of US AppStore. Also designed for deadbolt.

Yale Linus
- Not compatible with thumb turn.

Gimdow
- Compatible with mortise thumb turn. Can get it at a good price on Amazon JP with full set of accessories like keypad and wifi bridge but reliability seems like a hit or miss based on reviews.

Sesame 4 (Candy House)
- Compatible with mortise thumb turn, review seems positive in general. Can only add on wifi bridge.

SwitchBot
- Newly launched but design seems bulkiest compared to the competition maybe due to the squarish design. Not much info available at the moment, no physical keypad option at the moment.

EPS Lock
- Malaysia company selling on Lazada with very basic thumb turn unlock via bluetooth at very affordable price.

There is of course the issue of unlock speed for such retrofit options......

If I were to opt for the deadbolt non-retrofit smart lock, would the size of the hole cutout done be at least standardized? For example, if I were to get a igloohome deadbolt smart lock today, will I be able to replace it with another manufacturer's deadbolt smart lock without drilling bigger/more holes the next day if I wanted to?

 

[synthez]

Appreciated! Thank you!

Yes, I saw the videos you shared. Thank you!

Stumbled across this Kaadas K9 review video.

 

[kidutz]

hello all, can anyone help recommending the AA batteries for the door lock? Thanks.

 

[koohansen]

hello all, can anyone help recommending the AA batteries for the door lock? Thanks.

Personal preference, Duracell, somehow harder to find in retail, used to be widely available. But Amazon.sg can get them for $18 for 20pcs, same-day delivery

I used them on my Samsung SHP-728, average 10 open/closes a day can last 1.5 years, whereas Energizer can last slightly over a year.

 

[TMBagain]

hello all, can anyone help recommending the AA batteries for the door lock? Thanks.

I had a broader reply / post here on batteries for digital locks. Have a look first.

forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/those-who-use-digital-lock-lip-lai.3890509/post-140839790

Then look at your lock manual and follow the suggested replacement cycle.

You can use Energizer if you don't want to think to hard but follow the user manual on replacement cycle.

PS. Try not to "stretch" batteries to the tail end. The risk related to cell expansion rises near the tail end depending on construction and quality.

 

[TMBagain]

Stumbled across this Kaadas K9 review video.

Clueless (Keyless) t-shirt emblem is more appropriate. Please allow me my daily dose of humour ( caffeine). After all, it supports the channel that had that ( humour) in mind to get eyeball traffic. It can lead to great expectations (for select few comedians).

Noted that even Bluetooth is optional in addition to hinged handle. Perhaps a little long on the tooth with regards to innovation but perhaps we don't need that at a certain price point if it is reflective of that (but I think it is not).

 

[TMBagain]

Considering some of the retrofit options compatible with mortise thumb turn since I have doubts on the longevity of smart locks in the markets and the challenge of replacing them without leaving more holes behind and would just like to share some of the retrofit products here

Thanks for the important context. From the text of your post, you are well aware of the drawbacks of digital deadbolt lock, and even more real drawbacks of digital dead bolts plug on top of existing regular deadbolts. The small footprint size imposes constraints on motor size, the lack of integrated door close sensor or none at all, the need to have a physical token or the phone itself to unlock. You are putting heavy weightage on the door alterations (something that may be insignificant other than mental) and giving up major benefits of digital access offered today using mortise locks.

In any case, thanks for the list, some of them are interesting.

August
- Meant for deadbolt, my new place will come with mortise so it's not an option unless I were to install a deadbolt purely for using August.

Survived the early days. Saved by a major company.

Level
- Not meant outside of US in general, saw on review on Amazon that the app was not available outside of US AppStore. Also designed for deadbolt.

Very interesting but perhaps for those who want to bend over backwards for the technology intrigue, the decor or for insurance reason in some countries. I did not know about the region AppStore availability (not a showstopper for Android, easy to switch between US/SG accounts? but I think Apple maybe impracticable to do the same - I tried once for Korean app).

Yale Linus
- Not compatible with thumb turn.

Gimdow
- Compatible with mortise thumb turn. Can get it at a good price on Amazon JP with full set of accessories like keypad and wifi bridge but reliability seems like a hit or miss based on reviews.

Sesame 4 (Candy House)
- Compatible with mortise thumb turn, review seems positive in general. Can only add on wifi bridge.

Enough years since kickstarter day, and stayed afloat with one product. Uses 3M to stick on? Did the rest of the manufacturers miss something here? Maybe Americans may laugh it off. Perhaps Japanese market accept cute things. If price is low enough, it may pass the mental acceptance and hope the door does not slam too often on certain windy months in Singapore.

SwitchBot
- Newly launched but design seems bulkiest compared to the competition maybe due to the squarish design. Not much info available at the moment, no physical keypad option at the moment.

This is a crude version from what I see. I am surprised they release this at this stage but maybe the price makes it acceptable.

EPS Lock
- Malaysia company selling on Lazada with very basic thumb turn unlock via bluetooth at very affordable price.

The lack of actual photos of construction, build quality and actual installation makes this a big risk. If it is near disposable price - sure, one can be less presumptuous and just give this toy a try.

There is of course the issue of unlock speed for such retrofit options......

Yes, they do sound and feel lethargic but the mind may get desensitized over time. It can be grating on nerves to wait and hear the motor crawling. Interestingly, the rim lock is more snappy with their motors because of the layout and footprint combination.

If I were to opt for the deadbolt non-retrofit smart lock, would the size of the hole cutout done be at least standardized? For example, if I were to get a igloohome deadbolt smart lock today, will I be able to replace it with another manufacturer's deadbolt smart lock without drilling bigger/more holes the next day if I wanted to?

There is no standard but it gets close. Your variables are:
- the main hole (varies by model and the people drilling them larger than required)
- any smaller through-holes (usually one, sometimes two) for holding lock in position.

If your new lock is smaller than the old one, then the variables start to come into play. Or if the new lock requires a main hole bigger than the one, then you drill it larger.

The side bolt hole should be OK. The backset (60/70mm) are usually adjustable but if not, then it may be a problem.

These are all good for discussion only. We think too hard into the future to avoid changes but life only offers changes. I think what yields more value over the next few years is a good enough position.

PS. My views are not suitable for all. We don't have to agree or disagree. So, peace! In the mountains in between, may edit for typo and clarity much later.

 

[zenify.me]

Gate can be extended outwards in segments of 25mm (which is the thickness of the gate bar). This is also a good time to reassess the need to close the gate. The Aqara D100 should solve the clearance issue. There are two vendors. Best to call them.

Any idea if this extension has to be done when fabricating the gate itself? Just submitted my gate order last week...

 

[TMBagain]

Any idea if this extension has to be done when fabricating the gate itself? Just submitted my gate order last week...

Yes.

PS. I think anytime after is too much effort and too small a margin for any supplier to (re)do.

 

[Rnakee]

Anyone here has installation done by s&p digital lock?
They are authorised reseller of kaadas, 1 of the package they quote me is quite attractive
Schlage S510 + Kaadas R6G for $800

 

[TMBagain]

Anyone here has installation done by s&p digital lock?
They are authorised reseller of kaadas, 1 of the package they quote me is quite attractive
Schlage S510 + Kaadas R6G for $800

Update: my post can be ignored if there is no value. I have no experience with the vendor.

I am not sure what the real value of "authorized" means in today's liberated market. I read it sometimes as control : but for good/worse and for whom? I leave it as such. It varies by consumer segment and consumer goods.

FWIW, that Schlage is a rebranded product from a Korean brand, but with a significant price uplift (control?). That Kaadas seems to be used as a base for many other brands. Kaadas makes lock for others (per their website).

Why were two different brands offered for your entrance? No answer required but just a thought.

PS. Just my thoughts, no need agreement or disagreement so peace!

 

[Rnakee]

Update: my post can be ignored if there is no value. I have no experience with the vendor.

I am not sure what the real value of "authorized" means in today's liberated market. I read it sometimes as control : but for good/worse and for whom? I leave it as such. It varies by consumer segment and consumer goods.

FWIW, that Schlage is a rebranded product from a Korean brand, but with a significant price uplift (control?). That Kaadas seems to be used as a base for many other brands. Kaadas makes lock for others (per their website).

Why were two different brands offered for your entrance? No answer required but just a thought.

PS. Just my thoughts, no need agreement or disagreement so peace!

Hmm.. actually different brands don't really bother me, as both are already in market for sometimes with no big complaints.
Though i know same brand some models are able to sync to unlock.

Only worry i have is that the vendor are new, setup only a couple years, will they be experience enough to do a good installation.

 

[TrueBeliever_jh]

Hi for those who using LockIn S30 pro or Aqara D100, can I check with u something?

I understand for S30 pro, once the “tongue” was push back(door closing) when touching the strike plate,, the mortise lock will extrude out almost immediately automatically, in less than a second (from Alex YouTube video). I’m not sure D100 is it also in less than a second. As such was wondering are users using any door closer?

Reason asking is if using door closer, the speed near the end of door closing will slow down significantly to prevent a bang of the door. So if the “tongue” touches the strike plate when it is closing in slower speed, will the mortise lock extrude and hit the strike plate before the “hole” slot? Causing an alarm to inform user of jam/ door not closed properly…. My current lock auto lock only after 5 seconds so no issue currently.

Hopefully u get what I meant.

I'm currently pending on the installation of D100.

Door closer is a requirement according to the distributor I'm in contact with.

 

[leongws]

I'm currently pending on the installation of D100.

Door closer is a requirement according to the distributor I'm in contact with.

I’m also using door closer so I guess worse case is need to adjust the door closing speed. I’m a bit reluctant to get D100 due to it using rechargeable battery. Would prefer replaceable alkaline battery. Looking at A100 due to apple support.