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China's Association of Financial Market Institutional Investors meets executives from private enterprises including real estate developer Seazen and Country Garden today.
Some hope the Second Arrow policy to include more private enterprises, reducing financing costs.
 

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- A flurry of economic data from China on Monday is expected to show its post-pandemic bounce is quickly fizzling out, raising expectations that Beijing needs to unveil more stimulus measures soon to shore up activity and shaky consumer confidence.

After a strong start to the year following the dismantling of tough COVID-19 measures, recent data have pointed to a sharp loss of economic momentum due to weak demand at home and abroad and a protracted slump in the country's property market, traditionally a significant growth driver.

The world's second-largest economy likely managed just 0.5% growth in the second quarter compared with three months earlier, on a seasonally adjusted basis, according to economists polled by Reuters, with separate data for June expected to show industrial output, retail sales and investment continuing to cool.

Some economists have blamed the "scarring effects" caused by years of strict COVID measures and regulatory curbs on the property and technology sectors - despite recent official efforts to reverse some curbs to support the economy.

With uncertainty running high, cautious households and private businesses are building up their savings and paying off their debts rather than making new purchases or investments. Youth unemployment has hit record highs.

Compared with a year earlier, gross domestic product (GDP) may have grown 7.3% in April-June from a year earlier, compared with growth of 4.5% in the first quarter, economist said.

However, that reading will be heavily skewed by a sharp slump in activity last spring, when parts of the country were in paralysing COVID-19 lockdowns.

Data on Thursday showed China's exports fell the most in three years in June, slumping a worse-than-expected 12.4% year-on-year, as cooling global demands adds more stress on the economy.

New home prices were unchanged in June, the weakest result this year, with rises slowing nationwide in continued weakness for the property sector, which accounts for one-fourth of economic activity.

Producer prices fell at the fastest pace in over seven years in June and consumer prices teetered on the verge of deflation, data showed earlier in the week.




Authorities are likely to roll out more stimulus steps including fiscal spending to fund big-ticket infrastructure projects, more support for consumers and private firms, and some property policy easing, policy insiders and economists said. But analysts say a quick turnaround is unlikely.

China's central bank will use policy tools such as the reserve requirement ratio (RRR) and medium-term lending facility to weather the challenges, a senior bank official said on Friday.

Analysts polled by Reuters expect the central bank to cut banks' reserve requirement ratio (RRR) by 25 basis points in the third quarter, freeing up more funds for lending, while keeping benchmark lending rates steady.

The central bank cut the RRR - the amount of cash that banks must hold as reserves - in March.

China also cut its benchmark lending rates by a modest 10 basis points in June, the first such reduction in 10 months.

But the central bank is likely to be wary of cutting lending rates further. A reluctance to borrow among private companies and households means that continued policy easing could hurt banks that are already battling margin pressures, analysts said.

Aggressive easing could also trigger more capital outflows from China's struggling financial markets and pressure the yuan currency, which recently skidded to eight-month lows.
 

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Think they have neglected the economy for too long. The revenge actions they took or going to take against the other countries going against them will not help them to recover their economy quickly. Hope they can find other ways to overcome . Better for everyone; they progress, we progress.

https://www.investing.com/news/econ...ly-to-show-recovery-is-fading-quickly-3126395

Neglected is an understatement. The CCP literally shut down the economy for 2 years and waged a series of wars against private enterprise, many people lost their jobs and tons of small businesses went bust, you dun recover from such a thing without massive stimulus.

But like I said many times before the main challenge is still demographics. China is still going to face a massive problem in 10-15 years' time with their ageing and shrinking population, immigration can't solve the problem because they have a very large population and birth rates dun appear to be moving in the right direction, this spells doom for the Chinese economy unless they find some way to massively increase productivity.
 

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Neglected is an understatement. The CCP literally shut down the economy for 2 years and waged a series of wars against private enterprise, many people lost their jobs and tons of small businesses went bust, you dun recover from such a thing without massive stimulus.

But like I said many times before the main challenge is still demographics. China is still going to face a massive problem in 10-15 years' time with their ageing and shrinking population, immigration can't solve the problem because they have a very large population and birth rates dun appear to be moving in the right direction, this spells doom for the Chinese economy unless they find some way to massively increase productivity.
Dont worry, chinese experts proposing unemployment tax alr. Jus need singles tax, no baby tax, work less than 12 hour a day tax and low spending tax next to solve all their issues :s42:
 

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Japan was facing the same problem as China today in the 70s and 80s when the US and the western World put pressures on them when they were rising fast with copycat industries. They were coping well until the Chinese slumped them in 1990 with cheaper labour and the same kind of copycat industries. The Chinese this time did it very differently. They retaliated and want to be self sufficient short of isolating themselve, cutting off from the rest of World like they did before. Let’s see how things will develop in 10 or 20 years later.
 

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Neglected is an understatement. The CCP literally shut down the economy for 2 years and waged a series of wars against private enterprise, many people lost their jobs and tons of small businesses went bust, you dun recover from such a thing without massive stimulus.

But like I said many times before the main challenge is still demographics. China is still going to face a massive problem in 10-15 years' time with their ageing and shrinking population, immigration can't solve the problem because they have a very large population and birth rates dun appear to be moving in the right direction, this spells doom for the Chinese economy unless they find some way to massively increase productivity.
Demographics issue is also apparent in developed countries like SG….luckily we still got “talents” queuing up to become PRs for now :o

As for US, got experts saying their boomers era is also going to be over or already over.
 

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Demographics issue is also apparent in developed countries like SG….luckily we still got “talents” queuing up to become PRs for now :o

As for US, got experts saying their boomers era is also going to be over or already over.

SG is a very small country, population not even 6m, can easily get around this problem with immigration, our only constraint is land but there’s always reclamation.

US is the largest immigrant country in the world (in terms of population size), theres lots of land and opportunities, they will thrive as long as the top talents continue to flock there.
 

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⚡#China GDP data:
Q2 GDP YoY +6.3%[Est.+7.3%;Prev.+4.5%]
Q2 GDP QoQ +0.8%[Est.+0.5%;Prev.+2.2%]
Unemployment Rate(16-24yo) 21.3%[Prev. 20.8%]
June Retail sales 3.1% y/y[Est.3.2%]
June industrial growth 4.4% y/y[Est.2.7%]
 

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⚡Chinese departments including MofCOM issues several policies today to stimulate consumption to improve living conditions, support R&D of elderly-oriented products, and encourage financial institutions to provide credit support to consumers of household products. #China
 

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Except for 2020, China's consumer spending has been increasing and increasing most in the last 2 years..
The Western media like Bloomberg do not see the recent stimulus plan as helpful.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...t-consumption-as-growth-loses-steam#xj4y7vzkg
 

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