[CONSOLIDATED] Israel & Palestine Hamas conflict updates [History Discussion and stirring against any religion NOT ALLOWED]

Who’s fault is it that Palestine are suffering/dying now

  • Israel

    Votes: 119 15.9%
  • Hamas

    Votes: 519 69.3%
  • Others

    Votes: 111 14.8%

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charsiewfan

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First they will ask the photos then will ask where’s the proof that the hamas did it
 

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最重要的新聞畫面是什麼?裸體加屍體!

最重要的新聞事件是什麼?醜聞加緋聞!
 

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Read on reddit somewhere... reporter's evidence was photo of 4 body bags.

You do the math, dont believe everything put online or even in mainstream media nowadays. Even news also can fake footage.

All the siao lang just wants war.
 

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Sons or daughters, gender or pronouns, race or religion, should have no bearing on the duty of a citizen to defend the country regardless of who the invader is, what name or brotherhood they bear or where they come from

Do share if you think or feel otherwise :s12:

Why would you assume that the troubles in the Middle East that are religion-centric, ie Islam, and you think the so-called potential invaders of singapore would be "your religious brotherhood"?

After world war 2, do you know who were the main threats to Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia?

Starts with the big letter C.
 

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There is this reddit r/2ndyomkippurwar
You can go there to see some photos of the atrocities.

One very sad pic shows a family of 5 in body bags.
This same family was featured in a livestream hostage video not long ago.
The father had been shot in the leg and the family was trying to bluff the terrorist that the eldest son was not at home.

I guess the terrorists eventually found everyone and executed all of them.
 

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Allow me to summarise what I know so far about Zionism and 1948:

1. Zionism is a movement by a group of Jews from all over Europe to unify the jew people and find a land to call their own and establish a state. They chose Palestine.

2. 1948 - events leading to and subsequent incidents, from what I read and seen so far from documentaries - that the Jews started to buy lands and at the same time, asked the settling Palestinians to move out to neighbouring Jordan. If this cannot be achieve peacefully, then force is the way to do it. Even till now.

No religion was used as a reason for the conflict. It was all about land grab. That is all.
They chose the lands given to their patriarch Abraham by their God.
Which isn't much of a Zionist choice, since there is only 1 piece of land with this designation, known today as Palestine, known in the past as the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, and even further back as the land of Canaan.
 

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Why would you assume that the troubles in the Middle East that are religion-centric, ie Islam, and you think the so-called potential invaders of singapore would be "your religious brotherhood"?

After world war 2, do you know who were the main threats to Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia?

Starts with the big letter C.
Ah trying to divert the argument using a blanket statement from history.
The Malayan Chinese Communists, self-radicalised by PRC's Maoism, were the main threat until they surrendered their arms.
After that, the main threat up till today are those who want to jihad for a caliphate in Nusantara. Though MILF has been defeated, any terror cell can always try to target army camps or mass civilian areas like MRT stations during peak hour.
 
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Why would you assume that the troubles in the Middle East that are religion-centric, ie Islam, and you think the so-called potential invaders of singapore would be "your religious brotherhood"?

After world war 2, do you know who were the main threats to Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia?
I didn't say or assume what you wrote

what I wrote is my opinion that regardless of invaders' origins and beliefs, as a citizen of Singapore, it is a duty to defend our country against them no matter what brotherhood they bear or where they come from.

Even if a citizen is a Chinese and the invader is of a Chinese country, the citizen is bound to the duty to defend the country even if it is towards his own race, and not change sides based on racial, ethnicity or religion, will you not agree?
 

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They chose the lands given to their patriarch Abraham by their God.
Which isn't much of a Zionist choice, since there is only 1 piece of land with this designation, known today as Palestine, known in the past as the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, and even further back as the land of Canaan.

Yes, i think many know this.

But forcing out the current dwellers who have lived there for hundreds of years, if not thousands.

Read more into Zionism. See how far the jews are told to go to achieve the goal.
 

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I didn't say or assume what you wrote

what I wrote is my opinion that regardless of invaders' origins and beliefs, as a citizen of Singapore, it is a duty to defend our country against them no matter what brotherhood they bear or where they come from.

Even if a citizen is a Chinese and the invader is of a Chinese country, the citizen is bound to the duty to defend the country even if it is towards his own race, and not change sides based on racial, ethnicity or religion, will you not agree?

This is what you wrote:

ok, so in the original context of this comment


and Singapore being an established country and sovereignty, in the event of a hostile force that is bearing the name of your brotherhood attacks, would you define them as invaders and fight them off?

You questioning Muslims in Singapore loyalty to their country?

Even the Arab muslims fight each other.
 
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