[BREAKING!] Minister Sim Ann: Singaporean Chinese Are Not Overseas Chinese

[ridiculous?]

tiagong...


“If you want to have a future, you must stand with the country that represents the future. China is the country that represents the future,” he told Chinese Headline New Media.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...rean-businessman-linked-to-china-ccp.6996705/

 

[titusilvering]

CCP? What CCP?
The time of our forefathers who came to live .here where got CCP?

Got lah. They come and go traveling doing business mah. Until ccp take over etc do all the 文化大清洗and simi going around seizing private property.

 

[ahnyaahnya]

tiagong...


“If you want to have a future, you must stand with the country that represents the future. China is the country that represents the future,” he told Chinese Headline New Media.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...rean-businessman-linked-to-china-ccp.6996705/

Pui! To him

 

[coern]

Overseas Chinese implies our motherland is China.

She is correct.

Our motherland is Singapore, we are not PRC.

https://www.8world.com/singapore/budget-2024-budget-and-you-sim-ann-2396966

沈颖：文化和国民认同是两回事 新加坡华人不是华侨​

如今网络上的资讯发达，国人在分析这些资讯时，该如何辨识一些会影响国人凝聚力的讯息？国家发展部兼外交部高级政务部长沈颖指出，国人要时刻都记住国民认同和文化认同是两回事， 例如我国的华族人士是新加坡华人，不是华侨。

国家发展部兼外交部高级政务部长沈颖在接受《点看预算案》访问时提及，国人每天从手机或互联网所获得的资讯非常多，不过国人时刻都记住国民认同和文化认同是两回事。

她以我国的华族人士举例解释：“我们既是新加坡公民，也是新加坡华人，但我们不是华侨。”

在手机上或互联网所获得的大量信息，沈颖希望国人思考这些信息是不是基于文化认同或是其他的身份，希望能争取读者去支持某一个立场，也必须深入思考这个立场是否符合我国作为多元种族国家的基本利益。

另外，对于那些利用比较煽情或用比较批判的字眼，吸引眼球的信息，沈颖呼吁国人深入思考作者是否想要引起读者比较强烈的情绪，以及背后是否有其他的意图。

“最重要的是，考虑这些信息是否符合我国作为一个多元种族社会的一个利益。”


Nowadays, information on the Internet is developed. When analyzing this information, how should Chinese people identify information that will affect the cohesion of Chinese people? Shen Ying, Senior Minister of State for the Ministry of National Development and Foreign Affairs, pointed out that Chinese people must always remember that national identity and cultural identity are two different things.

Shen Ying, Senior Minister of State for the Ministry of National Development and Foreign Affairs, mentioned in an interview with "Budget Point" that Chinese people get a lot of information from mobile phones or the Internet every day, but Chinese people always remember that national identity and cultural identity are two different things. .

She explained using the example of Chinese people in our country: "We are both Singapore citizens and Singaporean Chinese, but we are not overseas Chinese."

Shen Ying hopes that the Chinese people will think about whether this information is based on cultural identity or other identities. She hopes to win over readers to support a certain position. Shen Ying also needs to think deeply about whether this position is consistent with our country as a diverse country. fundamental interests of the racial state.

In addition, for information that uses more sensational or more critical words to attract attention, Shen Ying calls on Chinese people to think deeply about whether the author wants to arouse stronger emotions in readers, and whether there are other intentions behind it.

"Above all, consider whether this information is in the interest of our country as a multiracial society."

 

[ahnyaahnya]

Got lah. They come and go traveling doing business mah. Until ccp take over etc do all the 文化大清洗and simi going around seizing private property.

That time got no CCP.
CCP was founded in 1921

 

[ashethen]

She should ask her former colleague George Yeo

 

[titusilvering]

That time got no CCP.
CCP was founded in 1921

wapiang my grandparents travelled to and back leh so was my uncle.

Japanese kana defeated liao then kmt retreat to tw liao many overseas chinese stop going back 唐山 liao cuz sibei jialat

 

[homer123]

When go overseas, Sinkies claim they are not Chinese

 

[Miss.Molly]

When go overseas, Sinkies claim they are not Chinese

It's not a claim.
It's stating a fact.

 

[LoaGong12]

How interesting. India’s media always report Indian Singaporeans’ achievements as “Indian origin”. Our MPs should apply same standard then?

Anyway, regardless of what she or we say, anywhere we go, people are going to judge and treat people first according to their skin color, that’s human nature.

india is less of a danger because of its cultural diversity. status of hindi viz a viz english and numerous other state dialects is a point of contention, that’s a very big diff

if many parts of india, central govt is very remote to ppl. nowhere as centralised as china politically with ccp having such deep roots. the elections in indus are very state affairs


Sg doesn’t make stance on all these issues for fun but merely to assert its independent space.

 

[Miss.Molly]

Downplaying SG Chinese racial and cultural identity is WRONG strategy to deter China influence on SG. Such a strategy stems from the mistaken erroneous belief that China represents authentic Chinese cultures and a lack of understanding what Chinese culture are.

The reality is that China doesn’t know and no longer practise many traditional Chinese cultures. They are actually less Chinese than some overseas Chinese. PRC are Chinese in the sense of nationality, but not Chinese in the cultural sense.

The correct way to deter China influence is to emphasise that China doesn’t represent authentic Chinese culture. PRC is not Chinese in the cultural sense. We should bring back dialect and discourage the use and learning of mandarin. It may make some sense to learn mandarin in the past on economic reasons. But, given the non-reversible decline China is on now, it makes sense to pivot back to learning dialects. This is how SG should cut off ourselves with China.

You are right.
In fact, South Koreans today are more Confucian than PRC Chinese (and a lot of ethnic Chinese around the world).
When the Manchus overthrew the Ming dynasty, the Koreans still held on to their Ming-centric beliefs and practices and therefore preserved the practices from before, including their style of government.

 

[Miss.Molly]

Agree with what she said. Me buay tahan those 中华胶who proudly declare themselves son of China when they benefit from the resources here. Really
热脸贴冷屁股， as if Winnie de pooh want to take you back like that.

How many of them including the boomers here will make the claim if China had not made the progress it did due to globalisation?
That pride is just borrowing someone else's light when convenient.
Otherwise they will be busy erasing their China origins.

 

[itedino]

5000 years...though no fighting but still arguing

Yea. President scholar this type of caliber. Cannot even match a CEO or chairman of a mnc

 

[orpisia]

Wa

This topic can talk until 18 pages

 

[Hlfcylee]

You are right.
In fact, South Koreans today are more Confucian than PRC Chinese (and a lot of ethnic Chinese around the world).
When the Manchus overthrew the Ming dynasty, the Koreans still held on to their Ming-centric beliefs and practices and therefore preserved the practices from before, including their style of government.

even their korean dollar got ming style dress..

more chinese then map ccp china.

no kidding

 

[Miss.Molly]

even their korean dollar got ming style dress..

more chinese then map ccp china.

no kidding

Plus the yin-yang and 4 trigrams in the Taegukgi flag - from Confucian I-Ching texts.

Whereas the PRC flag comes from western symbols!

 

[LocalRider]

india is less of a danger because of its cultural diversity. status of hindi viz a viz english and numerous other state dialects is a point of contention, that’s a very big diff

if many parts of india, central govt is very remote to ppl. nowhere as centralised as china politically with ccp having such deep roots. the elections in indus are very state affairs


Sg doesn’t make stance on all these issues for fun but merely to assert its independent space.

That’s v different from what I experience. A lot of the Indian nationals and even naturalised Indian Singaporeans I
come across in SG have great interest and pride in Modi and Indian politics. When Covid struck, I remembered it was some Indian group that had the fastest mobility collectively in responding to situations in India.

I think some SG minister recently exerted that SG civil servants should exercise impartiality in dealing with all races and nationalities.

Singapore does not practice communism like China, nor liberalism like US or even India. Singapore has its own political system and values that works for Singapore.

Hence, it would be best that Sg and Sgreans maintain our own brand of independence and impartiality as a nation instead of bashing whatever is the international flavor of the month. If a minister / MP spends time shooting controversial blank shots, I would rather he/she spends time introducing policies that would reinforce what makes Singapore unique in a multi polar world and help Singapore to thrive.

 

[leonaheidern]

just like in India all called Indians but got many different sub groups and region but once go overseas all got lump under one label.

Same thing with chinese. only called on by politicians when they want to make them take their side of their agenda. if life in China so good my ancestors wouldn't have left. now not good here if got ability to I will also leave ah if the opportunity not good for me anymore.

 

[amognoix]

What is Singapore? A country or company?

What is Singapore culture? Sinkie-pwn-sinkie?

Besides food and superficial stuff like MBS, what are Singaporeans known for? Japanese are known to be polite & hardworking, Germans known to be precise. Singaporeans Kiasu? Champion Grumblers?

 

[yuzu28]

So jialat meh
I go overseas also speak mandarin
At tw train n metro can also identify the msians chinese

So in japan now so sensitive until cannot speak mandarin n being Chinese?

if ppl ask I just say 新加坡人 or 华人 depending on what qns they asking liked from where / race

then again japanese themselves r pretty hmm u don’t say racist but watch out for ”自己人”？
Maybe I go tour or they know we r frm sg
The shop owners v nice leh

For sure in hk i dun speak mandarin.

In Japan not sure if so racist or not, but i overheard some jap's conversation that they don't like tourists. But seriously, those tourists in groups are quite annoying, esp ang mo, tiong, koreans. Taiwanese also

As i tour alone, most of them would think that I'm jap, even if i speak broken jap. Often see them shocked when I bring out my passport for tax free.