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i also all along have high Cholesterol, likely due to family genes, but i insist not taking any medication. So i told doctor that i will go back 3-4 mths later with a clean diet. I also recce for supplement which is the red yeast rice + garlic and niacin combo supplement. 4 months later my LDL drop 30%.

So after 4 month, now my HDL continue stand at 75 and LDL slight above normal range at 140. My total is 230. So how should i better improve? should i try to reduce total to below 200 which is normal range, but i feel it damn hard for me alr. i only aiming to reduce LDL to below 130.

Any advice?
 

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i also all along have high Cholesterol, likely due to family genes, but i insist not taking any medication. So i told doctor that i will go back 3-4 mths later with a clean diet. I also recce for supplement which is the red yeast rice + garlic and niacin combo supplement. 4 months later my LDL drop 30%.

So after 4 month, now my HDL continue stand at 75 and LDL slight above normal range at 140. My total is 230. So how should i better improve? should i try to reduce total to below 200 which is normal range, but i feel it damn hard for me alr. i only aiming to reduce LDL to below 130.

Any advice?

So the base number of LDL was about 200 then it dropped 30% to 140 after 4 months - these 4 months just clean diet or with supplements?

whats your age?

How long have you been on red yeast rice from beginning till now?
 

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i also all along have high Cholesterol, likely due to family genes, but i insist not taking any medication. So i told doctor that i will go back 3-4 mths later with a clean diet. I also recce for supplement which is the red yeast rice + garlic and niacin combo supplement. 4 months later my LDL drop 30%.

So after 4 month, now my HDL continue stand at 75 and LDL slight above normal range at 140. My total is 230. So how should i better improve? should i try to reduce total to below 200 which is normal range, but i feel it damn hard for me alr. i only aiming to reduce LDL to below 130.

Any advice?
Can try eating rolled oats for breakfast
 

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So the base number of LDL was about 200 then it dropped 30% to 140 after 4 months - these 4 months just clean diet or with supplements?

whats your age?

How long have you been on red yeast rice from beginning till now?
yah LDL like 230 lo in dec then drop to 140 in Apr. i got shock of the dec result.
Not exactly clean diet, just that i stop bread (change to oat daily morning, warm lemon water early morning), junk food and no eat processed and lesser fried nia..other than that still normal. still eating as usual. oh ya i change white rice to brown rice as well. intake of less carbo.

For the supplement, i taking the red sun brand. started early Feb.

Also exercise at least 2-3 times a weeks
 

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i eating instant oat daily morning

Congrats on your LDL drop
What about your triglycerides? Dec and now

My LDL was 75 just last month ,but it raised to 135 recently
Triglycerides was 182 but it dropped to 75
All readings are in mg/DL
 

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Congrats on your LDL drop
What about your triglycerides? Dec and now

My LDL was 75 just last month ,but it raised to 135 recently
Triglycerides was 182 but it dropped to 75
All readings are in mg/DL
so far my Triglycerides for all the past reports are between 59 to ~70ish range. got one time is 109 thou
 

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My nephew's pre-enlistment check up shows LDL of 270 (result was known to him after only about 8 months). Then doctor wanted to put him on statin.

As he is so young (and fit also that working to be a professional sportsman), I let him try red rice yeast for 2 months and it dropped by about 30% (from base number of 270) when I brought him to a cardiologist for a heart scan.

Cardio OK with him carry on trying on the supplement as his heart seems 'powerful' in scans with no clotting signs.

Eventually the sup seemed to have worked to it's maximum that the LDL number didn't seem to improve anymore.

So we took the doctor's advice to start statin as he is so young as said and the probability of he suffering some kind of stroke is high perhaps 20 - 30 years later if his system continues to be flooded with so much LDL. It took us about a year to reach this decision after the 'experiment' (my nephew is 'devastated').



Our med appt is next month and so will get an updated LDL number then (and will discuss with doctor about genetic testing).

*perhaps you can take note of my about 1-year experience above to see whether your sup may reach its 'max' (bottleneck) stage. Age does matter when making decision on statin. Like if you are above 40s, then your 'band' for LDL can be a bit wider coz of 'natural aging', but if you are in your in 20s or 30s, then it is not so acceptable as the system is supposed to be relatively 'new'.

As you may have known, red rice yeast is also a statin, amid a 'natural' one. So if you manage to see your LDL decreases further, then you may want to consider weaning yourself off the supplement (by slowly lowering the dosage while monitoring LDL changes, hoping that your cleaner diet + exercise are sufficient to maintain your lower number).

I do have a friend with LDL of 300 and managed to keep it below 100. He had the LDL 300 in his 30s. A very determined man who then started a super clean diet of mainly steamed veg and fish + half bowl carb per meal and jogs daily almost for the rest of his life so far. Now he is in his 60s.

seem like HYPOCOL ingredient is pure 600mg of red yeast rice. the supplement i taking is very low compare to that which consist of Red Yeast - 150mg Garlic - 150mg Niacin - 10mg Vitamin B1 - 2mg Vitamin B2 -2mg Vitamin B6 - 2mg Vitamin B12 – 2ug Vitamin C - 50mg, from Red Sun

Oh ya during 2018/19 mid 30s my LDL also hit above 200, but i manage to keep it to 126 within a year purely exercise and diet. no supplement at that time. eat nuts and etc. then never test for many years then back to eating more junk foods that why the dec result again.
 
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i also all along have high Cholesterol, likely due to family genes, but i insist not taking any medication. So i told doctor that i will go back 3-4 mths later with a clean diet. I also recce for supplement which is the red yeast rice + garlic and niacin combo supplement. 4 months later my LDL drop 30%.

So after 4 month, now my HDL continue stand at 75 and LDL slight above normal
If you are 4x or older I think it’s ok to Just maintain than keep doing 999 stuff to lower
If it ain’t bad don’t need to keep fixing it .. use yr attn for other aspects of life

If u r 2x then lkk suggest more exercise and maybe adding fish oils or eating more fatty fish to yr diet . Not say everyday but one week 1-2 meals eat some fishes like tuna or salmon etc
Increasing exercise frequency or length
range at 140. My total is 230. So how should i better improve? should i try to reduce total to below 200 which is normal range, but i feel it damn hard for me alr. i only aiming to reduce LDL to below 130.

Any advice?
 

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I do have a friend with LDL of 300 and managed to keep it below 100. He had the LDL 300 in his 30s. A very determined man who then started a super clean diet of mainly steamed veg and fish + half bowl carb per meal and jogs daily almost for the rest of his life so far. Now he is in his 60s.
Did he take statins?
My carb comes from veggies and nuts, though I still want to buy PB, cutting down to 1tbsp daily

LDL increased by another 60mg/DL was probably due to 3tbsp of overflowing PB ,that equals to 6tbsp
But amazingly, triglycerides also dropped a whopping 59% even without constant consumption of statins
The only unhealthy food I jiak is roasted chicken,with flavours like charsiew garlic/BBQ honey but siam the skins
 

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seem like HYPOCOL ingredient is pure 600mg of red yeast rice. the supplement i taking is very low compare to that which consist of Red Yeast - 150mg Garlic - 150mg Niacin - 10mg Vitamin B1 - 2mg Vitamin B2 -2mg Vitamin B6 - 2mg Vitamin B12 – 2ug Vitamin C - 50mg, from Red Sun

Oh ya during 2018/19 mid 30s my LDL also hit above 200, but i manage to keep it to 126 within a year purely exercise and diet. no supplement at that time. eat nuts and etc. then never test for many years then back to eating more junk foods that why the dec result again.

Your LDL seems to be able to be controlled via diet and exercise and so if you are not keen in taking statin, then you have to lead a 'more disciplined' life.

As you age further, you may find the number is getting more and more difficult to maintain (natural part of aging).

*I don't envy my friend's number though coz to me his life is 'colourless' for decades and beyond (but I do respect his sheer determination to maintain his number).
 

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Your LDL seems to be able to be controlled via diet and exercise and so if you are not keen in taking statin, then you have to lead a 'more disciplined' life.
As you age further, you may find the number is getting more and more difficult to maintain (natural part of aging).
*I don't envy my friend's number though coz to me his life is 'colourless' for decades and beyond (but I do respect his sheer determination to maintain his number).

yes,that why I am also adding supplement now to maintain. introduce by my wife fren mother that helped her maintain her cholesterol after years of high cholesterol
 

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My revised diet without PB
Servings, calories and saturated fats
Lunch
broccoli 160g , 45
cauliflower 100g, 25
Cherry tomatoes x7, 25
hard boiled eggx1, 77, 1.7g
Beancurdx1 127, 0.5g
295kcal, 2.2g

At work
Veggies 50-100kcal

Dinner
Poached eggx1, 77, 1.7g
Either Drumstickx2, 300, 4g
Or steamed salmon 150g, 300 ,4.5g
377kcal, 6.2g

Snacks
Almondsx12pcs 185, 1.2g

Total 957kcal and 9.6g saturated fats daily

Off day skip veggies and jiak roasted chicken
I don't think PB cause your LDL to raise.
Going to skip PB and statins the next 3 months with my current diet
If LDL still rises, means something is wrong with my low fat diet
Otherwise, revise diet and eat PB again

Heng diet is 70% instead of 30% ,I am really lazy to exercise
 
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Your LDL is 135 and not really considered High for your age (take that 130 is the 'desirable level').

If you are aiming at achieving the Very Healthy range of below 100, then maybe very difficult (due to aging that below 100 usually can only be achieved by a lot of exercises, very clean food, or Statin).

*If LDL still rises to me is nothing wrong with your diet but your metabolic system has issues; either liver just naturally producing that amount of LDL or system can't metabolise cholesterol efficiently (either due to genetics or aging). Your 135 actually is not that bad a number as long as it doesnt keep increasing.
i got a fren late 30s who having good genes, sia. never do anything like TS on the diet. Exercise also not those so siao on daily type but his HDL is 130 and LDL is around 100 or below. sometime i also envy those having very good genes ppl.
 
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