StarHub 10gbps plans - what’s the average speed you getting?

[Op_Valkyrie]

I am not so sure what you mean here. But it is well know that Arm Cortex A73 core is way faster than A53 core.

But the CPU is not everything. Broadcom may still have an edge on the wireless chipset side for WiFi. Some also say that it has better compatibility with iPhone. Asus is very good at tuning Broadcom chipset, better than its dealing of Qualcomm chipset (mainly Asus RT-AX89X and Asus TUF-BE6500). Asus has also done an okay job with the MediaTek Filogic 830 chipset (Asus TUF-AX4200 and TUF-AX6000).

Some Chinese reviewers also mentions that MediaTek WiFi chipsets (mainly the WiFi chipsets used in Filogic 860 platform) may have an edge over the Qualcomm wireless chipsets (mainly talking about IPQ5312/5322 side) in terms of high load conditions. But I have not seen much adoption of the Filogic 880 platform (mainly TP-Link Archer BE805 and Banana Pi BPI-R4) so there are few reviews.

What I meant is very layman… e.g amd vs intel ppl do benchmark right? I’m asking if similar has been done on these two arm cpu. Agree that certain brand has an edge in wifi performance. But what we are asking are single core vs multi cores performance which have impact on the application layer and resource area in these routers.

Your mentioned of “well know that Arm Cortex A73 core is way faster than A53 core.” Is this information done through Synthetic vs real world test?

 

[Op_Valkyrie]

Deep AI said:

Comparative Summary​

1. Performance: Cortex-A73 delivers significantly better performance compared to Cortex-A53, especially in demanding applications.
2. Power Efficiency: Cortex-A53 is optimized for lower power consumption and is often preferred in devices where battery life is critical.
3. Market Position: A73 is aimed at high-end devices, while A53 targets mid-range and budget devices.

Overall, the choice between the two depends on the requirements of the application, with the Cortex-A73 being more suitable for high-performance tasks and the Cortex-A53 being ideal for efficiency and lower-cost devices.

I think xiaofan is correct that A73 is more powerful. A53 is older.

This information is merely from white paper. That why I’m asking if there is a real world performance test between these arm cpu.

Sure everyone agree that Cortex-A73 is the more powerful one, but how much reduction as opposed to single and multi cores performance? This part I can’t find anything yet on Qualcomm Cortex A73 vs Broadcom Cortex A53.

 

[xiaofan]

This information is merely from white paper. That why I’m asking if there is a real world performance test between these arm cpu.

Sure everyone agree that Cortex-A73 is the more powerful one, but how much reduction as opposed to single and multi cores performance? This part I can’t find anything yet on Qualcomm Cortex A73 vs Broadcom Cortex A53.

If you want to find the benchmark data of IPQ9574 vs BCM4916, then it will be difficult, since usually you do not have CPU benchmark site comparing the router CPU performance, rather they will focus only mobile phone and PC CPUs.

But you can probably take some references from mobile phone CPU performance comparison.

Example: Qualcomm SD660 (Quad-core A73 + Quad-core A53) vs SD450 (8-core A53).
https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/qualcomm-snapdragon-660-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-450

 

[xiaofan]

BTW, it is actually possible to run some CPU benchmarks on the BCM4916 using Asus routers, just SSH into it and run.

Unfortunately TP-Link EB810v, Archer BE800 and Deco BE85 do not support SSH, so it is difficult to run CPU benchmark.

 

[xiaofan]

OpenWRT OpenSSL benchmark is the best I can find for router CPU performance comparison. But IPQ9570/IPQ9574 are not supported yet. BCM4916 will probably never be supported by OpenWRT.
https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/perf_and_log/benchmark.openssl

 

[Henry Ng]

This information is merely from white paper. That why I’m asking if there is a real world performance test between these arm cpu.

Sure everyone agree that Cortex-A73 is the more powerful one, but how much reduction as opposed to single and multi cores performance? This part I can’t find anything yet on Qualcomm Cortex A73 vs Broadcom Cortex A53.

So am i.

 

[Op_Valkyrie]

If you want to find the benchmark data of IPQ9574 vs BCM4916, then it will be difficult, since usually you do not have CPU benchmark site comparing the router CPU performance, rather they will focus only mobile phone and PC CPUs.

But you can probably take some references from mobile phone CPU performance comparison.

Example: Qualcomm SD660 (Quad-core A73 + Quad-core A53) vs SD450 (8-core A53).
https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/qualcomm-snapdragon-660-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-450

Ya loh… anyway it not my intention to belittle your earlier response just that I find the information in this area limited and uncleared in certain aspects. I know you are trying to provide as much reference as possible so kudos to that.

 

[Op_Valkyrie]

BTW, it is actually possible to run some CPU benchmarks on the BCM4916 using Asus routers, just SSH into it and run.

Unfortunately TP-Link EB810v, Archer BE800 and Deco BE85 do not support SSH, so it is difficult to run CPU benchmark.

Let me google to see how to do this on my Asus router… hopefully won’t brick my whole router.

 

[doofie]

Did you enable any types of QoS? Disable that and try again.

Disable Asus AIProtection Pro as well to see if that helps.

As mentioned, the CPU used in Asus ROG GT-BE98 (Broadcom BCM4916) is weak, compared to the IPQ9570/IPQ9574 CPU used in TP-Link EB810/HB810, TP-Link Archer BE800 and Deco BE85. So it may not be able to handle OOkla SpeedTest well.

As also mentioned by others, the better way is to use your own 10G capable computer connected to the 10G LAN port of the ROG GT-BE98 to carry out speedtest. Make sure you use the OOkla SpeedTest app and not browser in that case.

thanks, you provide the most constructive help! I didnt know QOS was enabled even with the options like monitoring was enabled. I disabled those and am getting around 7gbps to 8. I noticed if i disabled AI protection, my upload drop to 4-5gbps. But no impact on download. Think i'll just leave it enabled, upload doesn't matter much to me. Thanks again for your help!

 

[Henry Ng]

thanks, you provide the most constructive help! I didnt know QOS was enabled even with the options like monitoring was enabled. I disabled those and am getting around 7gbps to 8. I noticed if i disabled AI protection, my upload drop to 4-5gbps. But no impact on download. Think i'll just leave it enabled, upload doesn't matter much to me. Thanks again for your help!

Earlier ASUS never enable QOS by default. Now everything changed.

 

[Loratadine10mg]

guys… just an update: what was speculated might not be true. I just did a new firmware update on both my GT-BE98 last night. Now I ran Speedtest directly from my router able to hit higher speed, so it’s not bottleneck by the router’s cpu or hardware it seems.

Really nice.

 

[xiaofan]

Really nice.

Yes it seems to me Asus has improved the OOkla SpeedTest performance with the BCM4916 CPU.

However the above speed is actually not that great, especially with slower upload speed.

The other report seems to indicate the upload speed can be greater than 7Gbps.

Anyway, not that important in the real world though.

 

[Henry Ng]

Yes it seems to me Asus has improved the OOkla SpeedTest performance with the BCM4916 CPU.

However the above speed is actually not that great, especially with slower upload speed.

The other report seems to indicate the upload speed can be greater than 7Gbps.

Anyway, not that important in the real world though.

Actually any router also can get upload speed 7Gbps. No real world benefit at all because website will do traffic shading.

 

[xiaofan]

Actually any router also can get upload speed 7Gbps.

That is not correct as we are talking about the embeded OOkla SpeedTest within the router.

Many routers may not have such funtions in the first place (eg: Nokia X2426X-A ONR).

Then the router HW spec also plays a part.

It is better not anyhow reply if you do not understand ...

But I guess no big issues as well, others can always correct you.

 

[Henry Ng]

Really nice.

Actually no real world benefit and just a bit faster when downloading.

 

[Henry Ng]

That is not correct as we are talking about the embeded OOkla SpeedTest within the router.

Many routers may not have such funtions in the first place (eg: Nokia X2426X-A ONR).

Then the router HW spec also plays a part.

It is better not anyhow reply if you do not understand ...

But I guess no big issues as well, others can always correct you.

I got you now. Actually at first TP-Link EB810v also do not have it and now it has the speed test after i feedback to SH. I can get 7800 for Upload and this EB810v router is just a basic one. I think such feature is quite basic. I am now waiting for 19 Nov to see what SH can offer for MAX.

 

[ALacs]

Is the eb810v actually stable now? And what is MAX?

 

[stephenbishop]

what is MAX

HBO Max- a streaming service scheduled to launch in Singapore shortly (https://cnalifestyle.channelnewsasi...ner-bros-streaming-launching-singapore-412111).

 

[Henry Ng]

Is the eb810v actually stable now? And what is MAX?

Never have any problem with this TP-LINK EB810v wifi 7 router since day 1. Now Starhub got new promotion for new user but using ONR with 1 TV pass about $59/ mth. Good deal.

 

[Henry Ng]

See here > https://www.starhub.com/personal/bundles/homehub-plus/homehub-plus-promotion.html