Intel ARC series GPU (Over 40% perf/$ vs Nvidia)

[Yongkit]

I’m curious about your choice of the Arc GPU and the 14400F. Intel CPUs aren’t exactly known for efficiency when you factor in their high power draw. Arc GPUs have improved a lot with driver updates, but they’re still relatively new and may not have the same polish or stability as NVIDIA or AMD.

i think sometime they refer power efficiency in idle power instead

 

[Dorkable]

I’m curious about your choice of the Arc GPU and the 14400F. Intel CPUs aren’t exactly known for efficiency when you factor in their high power draw. Arc GPUs have improved a lot with driver updates, but they’re still relatively new and may not have the same polish or stability as NVIDIA or AMD.

This is the only build with a Wifi6 Mb and Arc B580 within my budget in the Aftershock prebuild list.

 

[final1]

4060 US$299
4060 ti 8gb US$399
B580 12gb US$249
4060 ti 16gb US$499
4070 US$599
4070 super US$599
B770 16gb ????? (launch unconfirmed)
4070 ti 12gb US$799
4070 ti super 16gb US$799
4080 US$1,199
4080 Super US$999
4090 US$1,599

5060 ?????
5060 ti ????
5070 ?????
5070 ti ????
5080 ????
5090 ????

 

[MangoCAT]

if aftershock got prebuilt price of 7500f or 8600 with B580, i was walking ard suntec to use their com for online catalog. @Phen8210 they use sucky mouse [xxxx de] as mouse sia - when they got a corner of mouse/good mouse.

 

[philips107]

4060 US$299
4060 ti 8gb US$399
B580 12gb US$249
4060 ti 16gb US$499
4070 US$599
4070 super US$599
B770 16gb ????? (launch unconfirmed)
4070 ti 12gb US$799
4070 ti super 16gb US$799
4080 US$1,199
4080 Super US$999
4090 US$1,599

5060 ?????
5060 ti ????
5070 ?????
5070 ti ????
5080 ????
5090 ????

Looks like there will be a model below the B580..

B570 with 10GB ram

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/arc-b570.c4245

 

[final1]

4060 US$299

B570 10gb US$219

4060 ti 8gb US$399
B580 12gb US$249
4060 ti 16gb US$499
4070 US$599
4070 super US$599
B770 16gb ????? (launch unconfirmed)
4070 ti 12gb US$799
4070 ti super 16gb US$799
4080 US$1,199
4080 Super US$999
4090 US$1,599

5060 ?????
5060 ti ????
5070 ?????
5070 ti ????
5080 ????
5090 ????

 

[Goodshot]

The 14400F is fine. I use one myself. Did a lot of reading before settling on this processor.

And the price is good compare to 7600x and 9600x too

 

[Bardiel]

can check with those who pre order. any estimated date when it will arrive in sg?

 

[final1]

can check with those who pre order. any estimated date when it will arrive in sg?

1st Batch pre order at S$388. They got their cards already.
2nd batch pre order S$409. I don’t know when delivery.

Asrock challenger b580 only

 

[soreloser]

Interesting video on the new B580

 

[Yongkit]

Interesting video on the new B580

The origin

 

[iceblendedchoc]

The origin

siao liao if order for old system.... now must upgrade everything to use B580

 

[Yongkit]

siao liao if order for old system.... now must upgrade everything to use B580

yeah it is very CPU dependend if looking at both video test. only suitable for new budget build user to adopt this gpu.

 

[NightRaven49]

actually couldve seen this from alchemist days, when the 1440p performance numbers were more competitive vs 1080p (sometimes 1440p ran better than 1080p). thats why i upgraded to 1440p monitor with my a750

 

[final1]

The origin

this reviewer needs to check his brain.
Yes, resizable bar is required for the B580.
Intel specifically states its a requirement.
So, whats there to criticise if you dump it in a system that doesn't have resizable bar.
Intel even uses the word "MUST" have resizable bar. Please think through whether this criticism is fair or not.
Also, please note that the supported CPU generations are stated clearly and the intel 9000 series the reviewer uses is not in the list. He can try it if he wants but it is not in the list and he should be upfront that he is testing it with a chip that is not officially stated it supports.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...hics/intel-arc-dedicated-graphics-family.html

 

[final1]

Interesting video on the new B580

Ryzen 2000 series is specifically not supported by B580.
Please state so upfront if you are going to test it and make this sort of video.

 

[fkchon]

this reviewer needs to check his brain.
Yes, resizable bar is required for the B580.
Intel specifically states its a requirement.
So, whats there to criticise if you dump it in a system that doesn't have resizable bar.
Intel even uses the word "MUST" have resizable bar. Please think through whether this criticism is fair or not.
Also, please note that the supported CPU generations are stated clearly and the intel 9000 series the reviewer uses is not in the list. He can try it if he wants but it is not in the list and he should be upfront that he is testing it with a chip that is not officially stated it supports.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...hics/intel-arc-dedicated-graphics-family.html

Yep they all rush to claim clout and be the first to get the clicks in and never do research before hand.

 

[NightRaven49]

this reviewer needs to check his brain.
Yes, resizable bar is required for the B580.
Intel specifically states its a requirement.
So, whats there to criticise if you dump it in a system that doesn't have resizable bar.

did u watch the video at all? he states very clearly that rebar was enabled for all his results, which does exist on certain 300 series mobos like the one he used. rebar definitely had an effect, but it was still not enough to save the b580 from falling apart in certain scenarios.

Also, please note that the supported CPU generations are stated clearly and the intel 9000 series the reviewer uses is not in the list. He can try it if he wants but it is not in the list and he should be upfront that he is testing it with a chip that is not officially stated it supports.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...hics/intel-arc-dedicated-graphics-family.html

Ryzen 2000 series is specifically not supported by B580.
Please state so upfront if you are going to test it and make this sort of video.

i think even if u get a "supported system", if the cpu performance on offer is roughly similar to the 2600/9600k, u would still see similar results.

 

[Yongkit]

the reviewer is not wrong doing what they wish to review, and sharing psa of its strengh and weakness, also at the same time they do show how good it is with newer cpu, no?

I understand how it feel when others showcase the weakness of our beloved gpu being criticise dont worry i am also a gpu lover,

if i were to consider the overall package for this B580 (249 USD) and checking online data, it is on par with Nvidia 2080Super (699 USD) flagship tier level performance at discounted price point (50 USD per year) so nothing WOW comparing to current Flagship tier.

it is as simple as a good budget for 1440p gaming and know what you needed is important.

GPU Flagship tier is always a benchmarking for next gpu performance. Intel started 5 years late if this B580 consider as their flagship and have lots of catching up.

 

[final1]

Yep they all rush to claim clout and be the first to get the clicks in and never do research before hand.

its not even research.
Its the basic system requirements.