[GE2025] Punggol GRC

[Ec7171]

The best by whose standards? Your best singer may be different from mine? My point is, given you have no definitive way of qualifying best, what business have you got to call an undesired outcome a "freak election"? So only your desired outcome is "normal"?



You will accept it when that day comes. Many have been accepting it since 3 June 1959 and can't wait for this nightmare to end.

Right. If you think someone else sing better than so be it. But we must be judging on the same criteria.

In this case , the best in class in singing not the one that sing the song you like.

 

[Jinyu]

They did not listen to you or you did not understand what they said?

As far as im concerned, they do explain alot of things with alot of datas out there than in 1959 or even 2001.

And if i read it right , you think PAP is good in leading the country. And you think they will listen to you more because you vote others? Just like Trump who thinks that i raise tariffs so all countries will come and offer deals?

your first sentence reflect the true mindset of pap candidates. They do what u must listen and understand. In fact unlike you who think you are superior in terms of understanding, their policy does not balance between understanding and listening to people. Result speak for itself...let the people vote. Please respect your own vote that is enough for me. I never ask you to vote for whoever. Voting is people right to choose who represent them or reject any mandate from the bullying. You don't like it you don't vote for them simple.

 

[hdsouza]

Right. If you think someone else sing better than so be it. But we must be judging on the same criteria.

In this case , the best in class in singing not the one that sing the song you like.

Same criteria? I would judge on the same criteria if the EBRC reported to the LOTO when redrawing boundaries

 

[Ec7171]

your first sentence reflect the true mindset of pap candidates. They do what u must listen and understand. In fact unlike you who think you are superior in terms of understanding, their policy does not balance between understanding and listening to people. Result speak for itself...let the people vote. Please respect your own vote that is enough for me. I never ask you to vote for whoever. Voting is people right to choose who represent them or reject any mandate from the bullying. You don't like it you don't vote for them simple.

I said in another post.

I vote for the best singer not the singer that sing the song i like.

 

[Ec7171]

Same criteria? I would judge on the same criteria if the EBRC reported to the LOTO when redrawing boundaries

I dont see the link in what i said.

 

[westtraveller]

With due respect.. YWL needs to try some weight loss method be it glp 1 or whatever. This size is not healthy at all.

 

[hdsouza]

I dont see the link in what i said.

You assume it's a level playing field

Right. If you think someone else sing better than so be it. But we must be judging on the same criteria

 

[Jinyu]

You don't need to worry about Pap losing. They won't infact their result may be likely the similar 58-65percentile area like marsilling, amk, nee soon, sembawang, pasir ris changi, jalan besar are confirmed pap winning area this time round. You think we vote for opp with no credibility? Those areas are the opp party that is not good enough and the incumbent will retain their seats.
please don't think Singaporean are daft..certain area people will still vote for the right party like pap. They are for sure the better candidates by far. Take for instance presidential election opp voters does not necessarily goes for TKL who is non pap candidates.

However, area like punggol or Tampines I not so sure becos opposition candidates are strong. Pap may win or lose. If you ask us to vote for the right candidates, please bring Lawrence Wong or heavyweight leader to aljunied grc. We sure vote for him

 

[Ec7171]

You assume it's a level playing field

I judge the best singer based on what the singer sing on stage.

I dont judge how he came to the stage. Thats not relevant.

 

[Jinyu]

I said in another post.

I vote for the best singer not the singer that sing the song i like.

Yes u r not wrong...the best singer in aljunied is not the pap candidates they field a pretty weak team as compared to wp pritam team. If Lawrence Wong or better candidate like minister come here to challenge I will vote for them.

 

[hdsouza]

I judge the best singer based on what the singer sing on stage.

I dont judge how he came to the stage. Thats not relevant.

Essentially, you are saying it's ok to judge the following singers in the same competition:

(i) Singer A sings in his native German getting to pick his own song choice
(ii) Singer B has a tamil song picked for him despite him not speaking a word of tamil

That may be ok to you, but not for me and many others.

Just because you choose to adhere to the rules of a crooked system does not necessarily render those wanting to reform the rules of the system advocates of a freak outcome.

 

[Jinyu]

Essentially, you are saying it's ok to judge the following singers in the same competition:

(i) Singer A sings in his native German getting to pick his own song choice
(ii) Singer B has a tamil song picked for him despite him not speaking a word of tamil

That may be ok to you, but not for me and many others.

Actually pap should be like monkey god...put a ring on their head. If they don't listen to ppl voice we chant or sing so their head will listen.

 

[hdsouza]

Yes u r not wrong...the best singer in aljunied is not the pap candidates they field a pretty weak team as compared to wp pritam team. If Lawrence Wong or better candidate like minister come here to challenge I will vote for them.

To be fair, I think this is where we differ. My issue is with the need to dismantle the crooked system and the only way to do so is through a regime change. Obviously, things are now beginning to tilt a little with the reduction in GRC sizes (and more SMCs) with the changing tide towards an increasing support for opposition.

You are a hybrid between me and @Ec7171

 

[Ec7171]

Essentially, you are saying it's ok to judge the following singers in the same competition:

(i) Singer A sings in his native German getting to pick his own song choice
(ii) Singer B has a tamil song picked for him despite him not speaking a word of tamil

That may be ok to you, but not for me and many others.

Just because you choose to adhere to the rules of a crooked system does not necessarily render those wanting to reform the rules of the system advocates of a freak outcome.

Nope i disagree. (ii) should be able to choose his own song or (i) will have a song chosen for him.

There is a difference between fair and equal.

EBRC has an equal rule but in some ppl opnion not a fair outcome.

 

[Jinyu]

To be fair, I think this is where we differ. My issue is with the need to dismantle the crooked system and the only way to do so is through a regime change. Obviously, things are now beginning to tilt a little with the reduction in GRC sizes (and more SMCs) with the changing tide towards an increasing support for opposition.

You are a hybrid between me and @Ec7171

How u know I the hybrid I hope pap in see this they(ministers level) come aljunied to contest. Never believe in the thread what they say.

 

[hdsouza]

Nope i disagree. (ii) should be able to choose his own song or (i) will have a song chosen for him.

There is a difference between fair and equal.

EBRC has an equal rule but in some ppl opnion not a fair outcome.

Precisely, so how is EBRC having an "equal rule" when its terms of reference comes from the PM who is necessarily partisan? Come back and talk about equality when the EBRC takes its terms of reference from the LOTO.

I am sure the West Coast-Jurong West GRC and Marine Parade-Braddell Heights GRC boundaries are not politically-motivated

 

[hdsouza]

How u know I the hybrid I hope pap in see this they(ministers level) come aljunied to contest. Never believe in the thread what they say.

Obviously my comments can only be based off what you say (I don't read minds...)

If Lawrence Wong or better candidate like minister come here to challenge I will vote for them.

 

[Ec7171]

Precisely, so how is EBRC having an "equal rule" when its terms of reference comes from the PM who is necessarily partisan? Come back and talk about equality when the EBRC takes its terms of reference from the LOTO.

I am sure the West Coast-Jurong West GRC and Marine Parade-Braddell Heights GRC boundaries are not politically-motivated

Same report from EBRC , same date on Nomination Day. Same date on polling day etc

all these are equal. What is not fair is what u describe. But unfortunately , this world is never fair and we wont never reach that stage. But we can reach equal stage.

 

[hdsouza]

Same report from EBRC , same date on Nomination Day. Same date on polling day etc

all these are equal. What is not fair is what u describe. But unfortunately , this world is never fair and we wont never reach that stage. But we can reach equal stage.

Sure. So same date of competition. Same venue of competition. Both singers are notified ahead of time when and where the competition takes place. So what's unfair about the singing competition I cited?

Precisely because the "world is never fair" that one man's freak election result is another's paradise

 

[Jinyu]

Obviously my comments can only be based off what you say (I don't read minds...)

hwz is indirectly monitored by the incumbent.I really hope the strong pap candidates to come to strong opp home ground to contest. They probably still shocked on the GE2011 result.

As usual pap might say otherwise why not ask pritam come to marsilling to contest.

We all know each party are not confident either way at this point to sway hardcore supporter.